Bona el al, wanna clue me in to who exactly the Ouija poker guys are, without spammer ba lamming of course?

Congrats on your NL challenge, Doc. Shirt looks good. I just have a couple of comments to make about your stats, in the event that you will play more NL holdem in future:

From your stats, it seems there are a couple of leaks. The gap between your VPIP and PFR is too high at 10 points, you want to try to get this down to a 3-5 point gap. Something like 18/14 can be a big winner at full-ring tables, so can 13/10. But 19/10 tends to indicate that you are cold-calling or limping too often. Perhaps related to this, is that fact that you are only 3betting 1% of the time. This indicates a really tight 3betting range of AA,KK only. You will want to usually 3bet AK and QQ, as well as sometimes 3betting JJ, TT, and AQ. And that's just value hands; you can surely have some 3bet-bluffs as well.

Postflop, it's hard to know what to say after such a small sample, but your WWSF is a bit on the low side at 34%, most winners in FR have a number around 42% or so...this might be related to playing a bit too loose preflop with marginal hands.

Thanks, Mike. I will try to remember all your pointers.

I know any advice I get from you on NL holdem is as good as gold.

Doc

For my answer via pm. Bona ever the professional. Ty sir

Nice Digest guys! A little late, but I finally read the whole thing..

I really look forward to the discussion of AF vs AFq - I've always wondered what the practical differences are

Thought Schup's intro was good - liked the strat links - esp since I was OP on 2 of them
Looking forward to more LHE content here

Mikes article was also very good - a lot to absorb, but good info even for a LHE geek

WDWF's article was particularly apropos as summer closes here in the US - gotta take time to get out and enjoy life!

Ice's article is great for players looking for new homes. I tried to set up MergeKeys recently, but I think my computer is too much of a dog for MergeMods, keys, sounds, w/e... cuz I couldn't get it to work - step 1 and no border around active table - I'm pretty computer savvy but gave up pretty quickly

Papa - goals? Why set yourself up for failure? (jk - PP)

What did Bee say again? - badugirazzaplozoom4cardwhat?
ya I know - I'm an official member of "LHE grinders with blinders" - gonna be breaking out this month tho! Thanks Bee!

Fav's worth repeating:

"Someone once asked me why women don't gamble as much as men do and I gave the commonsensical reply that we don't have as much money. That was a true but incomplete answer. In fact, women's total instinct for gambling is satisfied by marriage."

— Gloria Steinem

"Casinos and prostitutes have the same thing in common; they are both trying to screw you out of your money and send you home with a smile on you face."

— VP Pappy

"No wife can endure a gambling husband—unless he is a steady winner."

— Thomas Robert Dewar

Ya... I'm married ... Sort of...

I have been trying to chase down those ne'er-do-wells archie and jughead for ages ...

I suspect they have some pesky kids helping them out.

Glad I read the thread. The challange you gave Doc was quite interesting. I will defenately be reading these from now on.

For you guys who might not read a random LHE link otherwise, you should definitely check out the last one on Bona's list. In what started out as a relatively mundane discussion of a 30/60 live hand, high stakes reg OnTheRail15 decides to drop a discussion of balance and hand construction not normally seen in open poker forums in the last few years. Even if you only play NL, try to look past the LHE specific parts of the hand and think about how your own play can benefit from understanding balance, reading your own hand range, and how OTR15 explains profiting from opponent's mistakes.

DougL, that link isn't working, so hopefully this will if anyone is to lazy to go back a page or use the search function!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/53...below-1225879/

Bat: Elusive they are, we tried to get an interview with them for the digest and they are always a few steps ahead.


DougL: Thanks for highlighting that thread, there is a lot of good stuff in it and I wish I had made it more prominent in the digest.

Just read the above post. Mind suitably blown.

I think many posters in BQ and uNL forums would benefit greatly from reading that thread cover to cover

Sorry for the bad link. Glad you enjoyed the thread.

There is a simple bit in the middle, which is along the lines of g-bucks.
In a later post he follows with
This is a spot where we 2+2 posters see a bad PF call by a "fish" and fail to realize from that point on that the bad player accidentally plays perfect. I love the idea of recognizing that we don't just get to have all the bad-player's monies as even he makes a number of plays that are either good or at least not that bad. Sometimes, that spewtard is playing correctly given how much we have to fold.

Despite now having the start of a headache, the arguments between otr and lawdude make some sense to me. It's just the application where I (and most likely a lot of players) struggle, especially online where you have 10 seconds to make your decision.

To implement the optimal strategy (is that kinda what GTO means or is it an abstract concept?), you need to understand villain's strategy and range at any given point, and play perfectly or as close to it against that.

Lawdude uses his experience of playing against overaggressive players who will put in several bets otf without a purely nutted range as being the correct strategy to therefore make your money there. Whereas OTR argues that against these type of players their range will be likely stronger ott (where they will continue their aggression)and so adding bets there is more likely +EV as our range is also less polarised and therefore harder for villain to play perfectly against.

Is that anything near what they were saying? (obviously very oversimplified)

I'll give you the hint that one of them is really good at poker and the other likes to argue a lot.

Haha, yeah kinda got that impression from the other posters, altho it did stimulate some really well written strategy, albeit slightly above my paygrade