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08-17-2017 , 03:28 AM
Hi guys,
I'm a new player. I confuse about the "lead" concept.

For example, at pre-flop, player A open raised $10, player B called. Player A is leader. But in the case, player A open raised $10, player B re-raised $30 and player A called. Who is the leader?

Please help me. Thank you very much!
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08-17-2017 , 03:30 AM
Whoever raised or reraised takes the initiative of the hand on the street. For you case, its player b, he's more likely to win the hand.

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08-17-2017 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 3K_TOM17
Whoever raised or reraised takes the initiative of the hand on the street. For you case, its player b, he's more likely to win the hand.

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Thanks for your response. So you think Player B is leader in the case 2, right?
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08-17-2017 , 08:58 AM
Is case 2, player B is considered "the last aggressor", since he was the last person to say "Raise". The standard play is for the caller on the previous street (pre-flop in this case) to check to the raiser on the next street (the flop).
Occasionally, the player that was not the last aggressor/raiser will lead into him on the flop, with what's called a donkbet, or what used to be called a "weak lead" (because leading into the aggressor usually represented a weak hand). The majority of the time, a player that is OOP and just called the last raise will check the flop.

FWIW, When I hear the terms "leads out", I automatically think the player is out of position (acting first). It always does my head in a bit if he checks to the raiser that is in position, and a commentator says the player in position "leads out". He's hardly "leading out" if the action was checked to him. :/ I prefer the terms "donk" or "c-bet" to describe the first bet on the flop, since those terms also indicate what happened pre-flop.
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08-17-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Is case 2, player B is considered "the last aggressor", since he was the last person to say "Raise". The standard play is for the caller on the previous street (pre-flop in this case) to check to the raiser on the next street (the flop).
Occasionally, the player that was not the last aggressor/raiser will lead into him on the flop, with what's called a donkbet, or what used to be called a "weak lead" (because leading into the aggressor usually represented a weak hand). The majority of the time, a player that is OOP and just called the last raise will check the flop.

FWIW, When I hear the terms "leads out", I automatically think the player is out of position (acting first). It always does my head in a bit if he checks to the raiser that is in position, and a commentator says the player in position "leads out". He's hardly "leading out" if the action was checked to him. :/ I prefer the terms "donk" or "c-bet" to describe the first bet on the flop, since those terms also indicate what happened pre-flop.
Thank you very much
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