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Originally Posted by sixfour
1 fold pre
2 why are you just flatting the flop?
About hand #1, this may be a fold to seriously consider pre here
however, the villain in MP is one I've tagged to be playing rather aggro and often with nothing, I would have folded KTo here. MP was the official table fish.
Villain UTG was the usual tight/reg, and it was reasonnable here to put him on something rather strong, but his raise sizing was somewhat small and stroke me as odd
So I found the MP 3bet rather interesting and at this point, my call was somewhat out of curiosity as it was clearly a hand intended to be played between UTG and MP, no rational reason to call here, and KTo would have been a sure fold.
Once I get to see the flop, I was rather happy with a good chance of a flush, the flop hitting MP's "range" (if he had any) more often than not, and most likely being a miss for UTG, unless he had paired premiums (in which case, I would justify trying to go for the flush, if the price were right.
So being OOP here, still with nothing, I thought if UTG has a strong pair or something like AK, he may very well bet the flop, trying to get some cash from the villain in MP
With or without a hand, I expected MP to bet, if not 3bet wildly if not shove, should UTG bet before him, in which case I would have run like the wind.
But UTG checks, and MP bets a somewhat "affordable" enough amount that I decided to continue.
I don't have the exact numbers here, but I know I looked it up after winning a similar hand previously, but I thought that the chances of hitting a flush are fairly decent if 2 cards are already on the flop.
It was a gamble tho, but given the context, I thought it was worth the price I got asked.
So I call, and I was kind of surprised that UTG called also, somewhat concerned about a big pair.
The turn was good for me, MP could very well have one or two pairs, a set, or even a straight here, I don't think he's letting go so I bet 2/3 pot
UTG calls and is all in (but I think he would have done something on the flop with AQd, he might have a diamond or two, and there was still the Ad out there so I was somewhat concerned here), there are plenty of hands that pay me here, and only Axd that beats me and at that point, I think it's not a longshot to think that I got this in the bag (but I know anything can happen, MP could very well have 8Td, why the hell not? I've seen him raise with way worse than that)
Had a little scare on the river, but everything turned out to be A-OK
UTG call on the turn was kind of a longshot IMO
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hand #2
now it's important to know that I know this villain very well as we're real life friends, I know his style and I would say he's LAG, plays a lot of hands with a ton of aggro, he loses as big as he wins, but I know for a fact that he's bluffing a lot.
He also knows for a fact that I pretty much never bluff (actually I do in some spots, but rarely and I don't think he realizes that)
I would not try this sort of things against someone I don't know
Now I raise UTG with KK
The flop comes with a straight draw and somewhat of a flush draw (with, again, somewhat of a backdoor flushdraw for me, but that's rather a longshot)
So he may have hit some sort of pair or something, or maybe even not, I have no idea at this point.
I know that he knows that I only open with strong hands and rarely raise if I don't hit anything.
So he raises, somewhat smaller than I expected, which leads me to believe he has a piece of that board, maybe pair
By calling here, rather than 3 bet, I wanted him to believe that I had a strong holding (he knows that I most often play with premiums) but that didn't hit, something like AK or AQ
and if he hit a pair, he probably would make me pay for each card
maybe he did hit a set, but in that case, the price was decent for me to buy another card
the turn is somewhat concerning, but I know he bluffs alot, not quite sure where I am here, but I think I'm most likely ahead, if I am, I need to make sure
so I 3bet and he pays
Then he checks the river, I raise, he snap calls and shows trips
got outplayed here
But this was somewhat an exceptional case (not that I got outplayed, happens all the time, but that particular villain), given the fact that we know each other IRL and all we talk about together is poker, so it's a kind of " he knows that I know and I know that he knows" situation
I'm not bitter about it, and had fun playing, even if I lost that hand
He still sometimes plays kind of fishy so I'll get my money back eventually
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