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02-06-2016 , 06:24 PM
Hello,

Ive been researching some ways to make money i prffered trading.But it seems there you need to have a certain mind to think like a robot having a robot psycology they said.What about poker with putting work into reading books and joining a poker coaching site to watch the videos play low stakes at first even taking on some coaching lessons.Can anyone become a good poker player?
Thank you
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02-06-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bogdy23
Hello,

Ive been researching some ways to make money
My best suggestion is to get a job and forget about poker.

The answer to your direct question is yes if they are willing to put the effort into it. It isn't a matter hiring a coach for a couple of hours or reading a book to be a winner. You will put more effort into learning poker than with almost any other activity for little to no gain for a long time.

I will grant that it is easier than trading stocks where there are superusers and bots playing as a matter of course. You have to go up against them immediately rather than face weaker competition first.
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02-06-2016 , 07:34 PM
You can make more money trading(securities, commodities, media, currency) than playing poker AINEC. If you are good at both devoting your time to poker is ultimately more of a lifestyle choice. You also need a team of people if you are trading or you aren't going to have edge, day trading is a pretty bad way to make real money but you don't actually need much start-up capital to set up a real operation, it's mostly a time sink (and a very big one) so you need at least a few dedicated people helping you out + in today's world you need software people so you need at least enough tech knowledge to talk to them and understand what they're doing.

Learning how to be breakeven at poker is pretty easy though, I can probably train almost anyone that's smart to be breakeven at poker in a few days.
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02-06-2016 , 07:44 PM
Most people have the capacity to learn to beat the lowest stakes available for a convincing winrate. To be able to make a decent living at poker, I really don't think most people could do it, it requires a variety of attributes and being good at poker is only one of them.
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02-06-2016 , 10:19 PM
I'd say yes in general, but long-term, no.
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02-06-2016 , 10:26 PM
Yes.
But you have to be a genious.Like me.For example.
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02-06-2016 , 10:34 PM
Can anyone win at poker? I used to think yes, I have since found the answer is no. Some people just don't seem to mentally click with the game for want of a better term. Intelligence levels seem to have little correlation with this ability too.
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02-06-2016 , 11:45 PM
Dunno. Anyone can lose though.
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02-07-2016 , 12:51 AM
Anyone can do anything with enough heart
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02-07-2016 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by denks
Can anyone win at poker? I used to think yes, I have since found the answer is no. Some people just don't seem to mentally click with the game for want of a better term. Intelligence levels seem to have little correlation with this ability too.
^This is soooooooo true a friend of mine is a super genius, master degree engineer, PHD in chemistry, has a great job, but cant beat 10nl and hes been trying to 2 years
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02-07-2016 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dabeast360
Anyone can do anything with enough heart
This is a fallacy due to the modern belief that everyone is equal at everything. It's great for children but doesn't translate to the real world. Example: How many here in BQ have any chance of winning gold the in the 100m at the olympics if we dedicated our lives to it? Or playing in the NFL super bowl for an example closer to home for the Americans amongst you? Doesn't matter how much heart we have, I'd guess that the answer would approach 0.
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02-07-2016 , 03:17 AM
Hard to answer this question without knowing what OP means by anyone?

The question Can anyone win at poker? Can mean, is every single person in this world capable of being a winning poker player? or it can mean, Is there any single person in this world capable of being a winning poker player, or is everyone that plays it a long term loser like every other form of gambling?

The answer to the first form of the question is seemingly no, the answer to the 2nd question is definitely yes, although there are certain games that literally no one can beat long term because of rake being too high.
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02-07-2016 , 03:55 AM
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Anyone can do anything with enough heart
No they can't. There is great merit in aspiring to achieve huge things through the application of total passion, commitment , tenacity, drive, determination etc. There is great stupidity in the gullible belief in moronic throwaway cliches. If you have the toolkit to achieve your dreams, there is nothing wrong in a few inspirational quotes to speed you on your journey (use them myself), but that's all they are use for.

Last edited by Fatboy54; 02-07-2016 at 04:03 AM.
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02-07-2016 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by denks
Can anyone win at poker? I used to think yes, I have since found the answer is no. Some people just don't seem to mentally click with the game for want of a better term. Intelligence levels seem to have little correlation with this ability too.
If you can learn you can win. That said; not everyone can learn. I agree Intelligence has little to do with ability.
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02-07-2016 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dabeast360
Anyone can do anything with enough heart
no
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02-07-2016 , 05:02 AM
lol u bunch of killjoys
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02-07-2016 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSamurai
Yes.
But you have to be a genious.Like me.For example.
This would be more convincing if you could actually spell genius
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02-07-2016 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by denks
This is a fallacy due to the modern belief that everyone is equal at everything. It's great for children but doesn't translate to the real world. Example: How many here in BQ have any chance of winning gold the in the 100m at the olympics if we dedicated our lives to it? Or playing in the NFL super bowl for an example closer to home for the Americans amongst you? Doesn't matter how much heart we have, I'd guess that the answer would approach 0.
The answer has to approach 0. There are only so many of those positions available and the world population is growing.
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02-07-2016 , 10:58 AM
everyone can win in the shortterm. start poker and hit a lucky streak. but longterm, no not everyone can win at poker
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02-07-2016 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by expat
This would be more convincing if you could actually spell genius
Sorry im not a spelling genious

Spoiler:
was drunk when posting that
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02-07-2016 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
My best suggestion is to get a job and forget about poker.

The answer to your direct question is yes if they are willing to put the effort into it. It isn't a matter hiring a coach for a couple of hours or reading a book to be a winner. You will put more effort into learning poker than with almost any other activity for little to no gain for a long time.

I will grant that it is easier than trading stocks where there are superusers and bots playing as a matter of course. You have to go up against them immediately rather than face weaker competition first.
I have a job and i don`t like it im looking for something else.Can poker anyone learn to win at it and it dosen`t need any special skill from wich you are born with like in trading?
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02-07-2016 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bogdy23
I have a job and i don`t like it im looking for something else.Can poker anyone learn to win at it and it dosen`t need any special skill from wich you are born with like in trading?
I have been in the gamboolin biz for a very long time. I have coached and taught others extensively and there is in fact a very special skill set to be able to make a career out of playing cards.

you have to be able to deal with the following:
maintain focus for hours on end
It is terribly isolating, lonely, and nasty
entitlement
boredom
motivation to play hours (go take a look at the pg&c's most dont even come close to hitting their goals)
downswings and not going bananas
other forms of gamboolin, booze, drugs
etc, etc

Every year I see a ton of players come and go from the scene - very very few actually survive
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02-07-2016 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by squid face
I have been in the gamboolin biz for a very long time. I have coached and taught others extensively and there is in fact a very special skill set to be able to make a career out of playing cards.

you have to be able to deal with the following:
maintain focus for hours on end
It is terribly isolating, lonely, and nasty
entitlement
boredom
motivation to play hours (go take a look at the pg&c's most dont even come close to hitting their goals)
downswings and not going bananas
other forms of gamboolin, booze, drugs
etc, etc

Every year I see a ton of players come and go from the scene - very very few actually survive


Making money is hard downsiwngs and not going bannas sound preety hard.But what can i do i don`t want to lead a mediocre life i want to make something out of it.And i like playing poker i like earning money even more.
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02-07-2016 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bogdy23
Making money is hard downsiwngs and not going bannas sound preety hard.But what can i do i don`t want to lead a mediocre life i want to make something out of it.And i like playing poker i like earning money even more.
find something you are passionate about and go for it. Play poker as a hobby for fun and hopefully for profit
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02-07-2016 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bogdy23
Making money is hard downsiwngs and not going bannas sound preety hard.But what can i do i don`t want to lead a mediocre life i want to make something out of it.And i like playing poker i like earning money even more.
1. It is very hard to rise above being a good, breakeven player to a winning player. For the same amount of work and focus, there are a lot of ways to make more money. If you like earning money, poker is likely not your best bet.
2. I am not sure what you mean by 'medicore life'. If you think that poker leads to financial success, glory and acclaim, this is probably an unrealistic expectation.
3. If you think that your life will be better because you like poker, and therefore playing poker all the time will make you happy....well, grinding does not really work that way. A great many players will burn out and some stop playing poker altogether.

If you are between jobs and have a bankroll, give it a shot. but make sure you have a plan b. If you are in a job, do not quit. Play poker on the side until you feel that you understand the game and understand yourself, save up a big enough bankroll, and then start playing more (if you can do this and keep your job, or a job, do it. Playing poker for rent money is pretty stressful and will affect your play).
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