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01-24-2008 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sputum
Do what this guy did
Thanks for putting that link out there. This may sound silly but reading it inspired me to pull up my old PS account that had like eight dollars in it and try to work it back into something. I play primarily on FT and had all but forgotten about that nearly empty account. I don't have the time availability for a grand in a week to be a realistic goal, but I have set a (much more modest) goal for myself and and excited about seeing if I can make it happen. Anyways, that thread was a really great read. Thanks again for the link
01-24-2008 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GinaSD
yeah well, the desire to shortstack a 100nL game only crosses my mind like, every 20th hand
Don't become one of them. I was glad when I opened this thread to find out that your BR is $20 because you withdrew and not because of another horrible run of luck.
01-24-2008 , 01:33 PM
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I don't have the time availability for a grand in a week to be a realistic goal
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Location: Colorado


It's a great thread.
01-24-2008 , 01:35 PM
I started with $50, and up to $170 in two days. Playing at 25/50 tables though, so need a good run at this level before I can start to relax without having to worry about going broke.
01-24-2008 , 02:30 PM
gina:

gl luck on your adventure. i cant find the full quote as to where you are headed. i saw something about location: colorado. is this correct? if so, and i get the impression that you preferr B&M to online, CO has crappy live games. a search for B&M CO games should confirm this. what do you in real life?

being from CA, you are aware of their liberal and rational weed laws. its my understanding that denver is similar to CA. if this is your thing, all may be not lost. please respond and give a TR report when you settle in. gl.
01-24-2008 , 03:56 PM
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Making this thread so I can occasionally update with graphs/etc. to show progress, and also to invite others to start the challenge with me.
Got $5.91 in an old account. In a $5.50 PLO8 SNG atm, if I cash I may go for it
01-24-2008 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mattw
gina:

gl luck on your adventure. i cant find the full quote as to where you are headed. i saw something about location: colorado. is this correct? if so, and i get the impression that you preferr B&M to online, CO has crappy live games. a search for B&M CO games should confirm this. what do you in real life?

being from CA, you are aware of their liberal and rational weed laws. its my understanding that denver is similar to CA. if this is your thing, all may be not lost. please respond and give a TR report when you settle in. gl.
Ya, the weed laws are pretty liberal here. I have a few friends who have medical marijuana cards, and shop for their buzz like others shop for ordinary stuff. It's funny, because it comes in little medicine bottles like you'd get from a pharmacy, labeled and everything.

I'm moving to Saint Paul, MN. MN has a law that you can't push more than 300 at once, so that effectively kills no-limit. What is left is some weird kind of spread-limit game. I think I'd like that just about as much as I like limit, or capped games.

If I had my way, I'd be exclusively a live game player- but when there are no live games available, you do what you have to do. Maybe I'll play a few of the tournaments at Canterbury but that's about it.

Career wise, I've been a little scattered lately. I've worked as a Report Analyst (stat cruncher) and Technical Writer/Doc. Control Manager in my last 2 jobs. (It's all bout the readin and ritin, and rithmetik fokes).
01-24-2008 , 04:41 PM
i have built up my br from stars without depositing anything: +over 2k
same at ftp: + 5k(I am busto at ftp, but it was a year ago ) so I am trying to build up a huge br at pokerstars which is not impossible at all, there are so many bad players there, you could db matedog88 at ftp or matedogswe if you dont trust me.
01-24-2008 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GinaSD

So, these next months I will be grinding up from 20 bucks and plan on trying to repeat the success of many others who have built a br from almost nothing.

also to invite others to start the challenge with me.
awesome i just started this challenge at party poker with $25(got it free through an affiliate site) last night and have it sitting at $205.71 for an hours worth of hit'n'run sessions through 3 tables...

not only did i hit some nutty hands quickly on each table i got players that call 3/5 pot bets on the river with lowest pair=i love it

stacked one LAG player b/c he doesn't know how to fold TPWK on a board with flush and str8 possibilities

all i can hope now is...hitting up all these players over n over again haha

*of course i didn't use any BR management skillZZZ here since i looked at it like it's not my $25. but now i'll use a lil better management and have 4 max BI's+ at .25/.50 lolZZZ and no offence to know one but who needs BR management skillZZZ when the players are seriously that bad 4 BI's are plenty(semi-j/k)

wish yah the best in your challenge,

Clayton
01-24-2008 , 04:46 PM
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MN has a law that you can't push more than 300 at once, so that effectively kills no-limit.
The biggest limit game at Canterbury Park (biggest cardroom in the Twin Cities) is 30/60. I haven't ever played at the cardroom down near Hastings (Treasure Island Casino) but I think they used to have a spread-limit game, not sure if they do any more but everyone at CP who I've ever talked to about Treasure Island can't stand the place. For no-limit cash games, you could head over to the casino in Turtle Lake Wisconsin, about a 90-minute drive from St. Paul. They regularly have $1/$2, sometimes have $2/$5 and, when there's enough interest, spread a $5/$10 NL game.
01-24-2008 , 04:47 PM
there was a recent post about poker in MT. montana also has weird max bet laws and max pot limits, similar to pot limit. he gave examples but i couldnt follow the understanding. the OP asked how to change the strategy in such a weird game.

being it the field that you are in, i admire your brain. you should have no prob being a succsessful poker player. say hello to whiskeytown, a cool poster here who lives in MN.
01-24-2008 , 05:34 PM
too late to edit:

i feel for you in that the culture shock you may experince. going from warm s.CA with beeches, yuppies, nice weather, and the overall life style will be vasly different in MN. i like cheese heads(i like cheese, farms, cows, the other simply life that it brings.)

i trust that you will maintain an acceptabe standard devitation within the bell curve to satisty you. if not, you can always adjust to another plan. i admire your courage.
01-24-2008 , 06:42 PM
I am going to search for you when I am on and come take all your monies :P Although that is prob +EV for you lol.
On the other hand, I will cry if you come pushbot one of my nl100 tables

Good luck anyhow. I have been planning to do this on full tilt with my $100 or something, but it's so much more tempting to play stars when I know I can be making about 10 times as much $$$

I have managed $80 -> $3k since oct
Started out playing nl25 terribly underrolled and prob ran quite good for the first week or so to get me going. I have found that 2 and 3 table sngs are a good break from cash when tilty/running bad and they seem to be pretty profitable (earned me a shark icon on sharkscope! lol)
01-24-2008 , 06:47 PM
Nice 100 SNG breakeven stretch.

http://www.sharkscope.com/SharkScope...16&version=152

Seriously pretty good for a recreational SNG player.
01-24-2008 , 10:00 PM
GL Gina.. Im thinking you are going to be successful with this.
01-24-2008 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeyav
Nice 100 SNG breakeven stretch.

http://www.sharkscope.com/SharkScope...16&version=152

Seriously pretty good for a recreational SNG player.
Haha yeah, I messed about and blew 2 $10 deposits on $1 sngs and the like over.. dunno how long (first 75-100 games or something) and then never played online for a while before I started playing "seriously" in October. Not gone bad since then though!
Thanks!

Link doesn't work btw, but it has my un in so I take it you were linking to my main sharkscope graph. Never worked out how to do this without taking a screenshot.

Last edited by davidv1213; 01-24-2008 at 10:27 PM.
01-24-2008 , 10:30 PM
Me since August:

$0.00 -----> freeroll ------> $0.53 -------> $400

I'm so lucky because there were many times I could've gone broke around the $0.50 - $10 range. Built that up now. However, I've been stuck at $400 for 1.5 months now. I probably play about 1-2 hours per day never more than 3 tables at once, and I play NL25 now. Good luck.
01-24-2008 , 11:17 PM
Yeah I busted out the other day when I was trying to play way over my head and with some other things going on that really clouded my judgement in general.

Put $150 in tonight going to try to grind a few hours / day (when sober) and hope to be back to 50NL in a few weeks. Got bonus of like $70 pending that will help...

So OP want to race or something?
grinding 10NL is mind numbing
01-24-2008 , 11:23 PM
Account Status: 37.71 plus 9.80 T$
Basically, I've a little more than doubled my initial 19.14.

haven't felt much like playing tonight. I'll have to put in more hands/time over the weekend.
01-24-2008 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_B
Yeah I busted out the other day when I was trying to play way over my head and with some other things going on that really clouded my judgement in general.

Put $150 in tonight going to try to grind a few hours / day (when sober) and hope to be back to 50NL in a few weeks. Got bonus of like $70 pending that will help...

So OP want to race or something?
grinding 10NL is mind numbing
I'm still in 2nl land. If I can catch up, race on
01-24-2008 , 11:30 PM
LOL I am working 50+ hours a week sooo just dont mve up before you have the bank roll..
unless you want to be some person with 3k posts and no roll that has beaten 50NL for a while at one point
01-24-2008 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv1213
I am going to search for you when I am on and come take all your monies :P Although that is prob +EV for you lol.
On the other hand, I will cry if you come pushbot one of my nl100 tables

Good luck anyhow. I have been planning to do this on full tilt with my $100 or something, but it's so much more tempting to play stars when I know I can be making about 10 times as much $$$

I have managed $80 -> $3k since oct
Started out playing nl25 terribly underrolled and prob ran quite good for the first week or so to get me going. I have found that 2 and 3 table sngs are a good break from cash when tilty/running bad and they seem to be pretty profitable (earned me a shark icon on sharkscope! lol)
lol, if i see you on one of my baby tables it better be because yer gonna do this challenge with me!

Speaking of.... Anybody wanna work with 20, and try to run it up to 1000 with me???
01-25-2008 , 12:01 AM
I would but i seriously doubt my ability to take those stacks even remotely seriously.
Id call down way too light.

but yeah good luck to you keep updating maybe we will cross sometime and race from there.
01-25-2008 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sputum
Got $5.91 in an old account. In a $5.50 PLO8 SNG atm, if I cash I may go for it
OK so I cashed 2nd (lucky this is not BBV, hit last three with a 2-1 chip lead over the other two combined but meh)
So I'm going to try and get my $15 up to $1k high-risk stylee but whatever.

If you are a serious poker player ( nothing to do with anything but INTENT) the first and only thing you have to do is to beat a game. BEAT IT. Not to make a profit short-term, but realise how your opponents play and why they play badly. Any game. Any level. Just feel you can beat it and have evidence.
I tried to move from LHE to NLHE without ever even mastering LHE and couldn't do it. Not a big loss number, just no idea what it was about. I'd moved from Lee Jones' 'Winning low-limit holdem' (2nd ed) to super/system with no clue. One sentence of Sklansky's (from memory) 'split-pot games favour a mathematical gambler over high games that favour an aggressive gambler' or some such. Not even realising that the split games Sklansky was referring to had no qualifier against the online games that were eight-or-better, his 'play for a scoop' stilll held me in good stead (I bought Zee's split -pot game book)
I built by BR from $220 to $1500 playing PLO8 FR games for 10 months because I could not understand NL holdem. When I moved back and tried NLH at microstakes I couldn't lose.



moral of the story is not 'I'm good at poker' it's 'if you can't beat microstakes ANYTHING over a good sample size you're doing something wrong'
Obv someone like raze has made 10x this in 100k hands and someone like pzhon could produce a graph that makes this look small. Fair play to them. The point is that I am a winner at 25NL and whatever else happens as long as I keep $300ish in my roll I can go and get more money from 25NL FR at will to finance 50NL or MTT shots or FTOPS or whatever.
When you have a game you can pwn you are a winner. 2NL? Great. $1 SNG? cool. Doesn't matter. Prove to yourself you are a winner.
Lots of people take these $20->$1k shots. Most of them are winning players and few of them succeed. There is no incentive to try if you are already a winning player except for prop bets (Nate) or force majeure (OP) or find a site you stopped playing at but have $5 in (me)
I'm drunk
01-25-2008 , 08:47 PM
you won the sitngo, does that mean you'll do this challenge with me?

my current status is:
37.71 cash, 18.10 tournament dollars (i'm enrolled in a $2.20 and .50 tourney tonight)

don't get to play much except for weekends, but I'm going to try to play a bunch this sat/sun.

      
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