is it ever good to bluff without a HUD?

Say playing zoom even zoom with HUD will get you loads info on players if you play long enough, so get stats on players were you can see if they fold easy and the best spot to bluff example on the flop if fold c bet is high or turn and river if they call lot c bets but fold to second bullet.

Started play without HUD as lost log in hem and still bluff a lot as most players seem hit or miss players, but any one that gets onto my play can just float me easy and take pot with bet.

Way I play without HUD is if someone bets I fold, but most time if checked to me I bet, it seems the best way play without a HUD.

I stopped using a HUD more than 2 years ago. I didn't stop bluffing. /thread

I play calling stations on a daily basis. It doesn't stop me triple-barreling with 8-high if the situation is appropriate.

Seems like pot luck if you bluff without any info

Just hoping they fold or call seems pointless

Know I play without a HUD makes think am just getting owed by HUD users.

If you have a good strategy then it doesn't matter if you know their tendencies unless you want to exploit them even further. Usually you just tag the good players and use population tendencies on the rest. If people at that stake tend to call too much you bluff less than you do against balanced players and if they fold too much in general you bluff a little more, it's that easy. Only if you play against very few people is it worth it to focus on individual tendencies because at that point you're getting at stakes that have a lot more good players in it.

I minraised on the river last night with ace high when it completed a flush and some straights and got a fold, so yes, you can bluff without a HUD. This was live though

Do people bluff in live poker?

If you're paying attention to how your opponents play you should be able to find good spots anyway

You just have to shout "PLEASE FOLD!" when you're at the bottom of your range against a known station.



I don't know if my triple barrel is optimal in theory (I could definitely just check-fold the flop and cut my losses), but I know that particular villain would call on the flop and turn with all kinds of drawing hands (or even ace high), so when I've got 8-high on the river, a bluff is probably a good idea. I'll also have some big hands that want to get value in this spot, so balancing by betting some (but not too much) trash makes sense. Obviously villain will call sometimes, but he doesn't have to fold very often for this bluff to break even.

I do not use a HUD and I bluff regularly and effectively.

You do have to pay attention to certain player traits, though.

The best bluffs tell a convincing story pre, on the flop, turn, river. You use the board texture, think about what you block, and then commit.

The problem is, some players don't think about any of that stuff. All they think about is their hand and they will just never fold certain quite weak holdings (a pair of Aces with any kicker for example).

So paradoxically I tend to try and be clever about my bluffs with players that I think are good at reading the board, because they will actually make what for all intents and purposes seems a correct fold.

There are also players who are very timid and not good at reading the board, who you can bluff badly and they will still fold. But those players I tend to just wear down with smaller bluffs as a matter of course.

You should always have a reason behind every action you take. Folding because someone bets or betting just because it is checked is not enough. When bluffing, you need to consider position, ranges, and card removal at least.

When I feel like I play good I rely feel like I am able to wins lots of money but when I play crappy I dont think I can win coins but when I play ok I think I might be able to wins some money sometimes especially if other player is not smart player but sometimes they are smart player so I am not rely sure. When I use HUD I feel like I smart a bit more so I think I play more smart so yes I think using hud is good for more coin but most important is hav lots of fun

There is info everywhere, are they full stacked, are they 300bb deep?

Shortstacked?

where they the pfr and decided to check Kxx or Qxx or and xxx really and its heads up? Bet. (why they just gave up more than 70%)


did they limp call?

etc etc etc,

been playing Zoom successfully without a HUD since it started on FT as Rush,


one hand at showdown can tell you more about a player than a ****ty sample size ever can,

reads reads reads,

does a player minbet donk you, raise ATC, if they call, the've middle pair at least on a dry board and a mix of that and draws if wet.

If they fold, its lies everytime.

etc etc

Yeah because no HUD = no info

Back when they played poker before computers, no-one ever had any information on anyone else. It was just bingo really.