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07-10-2017 , 05:22 AM
I was deep in the Sunday Storm with a top 90 stack. This hand came about - your thoughts are most appreciated.

I had a weird feeling he had AQ. Min raises pre had been the norm for about 2 hours or so.

These situations are a real leak of mine. Laying down what could be the winning hand, but probably isn't. Any tips on how to handle these situations?

PokerStars Hand #172829742440: Tournament #1956230636, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXV (20000/40000) - 2017/07/10 0:31:27 WET [2017/07/09 19:31:27 ET]
Table '1956230636 201' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Ivan169254 (1069651 in chips)
Seat 2: lyi753 (735174 in chips)
Seat 3: woeter1 (380146 in chips)
Seat 4: fran_d1 (499679 in chips)
Seat 5: Kord1z (1457854 in chips)
Seat 6: guby89 (463590 in chips)
Seat 7: Percyeus86 (1148718 in chips)
Seat 8: lont7 (328064 in chips)
Seat 9: fgs.lopes (1027619 in chips)
Ivan169254: posts the ante 4000
lyi753: posts the ante 4000
woeter1: posts the ante 4000
fran_d1: posts the ante 4000
Kord1z: posts the ante 4000
guby89: posts the ante 4000
Percyeus86: posts the ante 4000
lont7: posts the ante 4000
fgs.lopes: posts the ante 4000
fgs.lopes: posts small blind 20000
Ivan169254: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Percyeus86 [Qs Kd]
fgs.lopes said, "vamoo"
lyi753: raises 40000 to 80000
woeter1: folds
fran_d1: folds
Kord1z: folds
guby89: folds
Percyeus86: calls 80000
lont7: folds
fgs.lopes: folds
Ivan169254: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 8s 3h]
lyi753: bets 128000
Percyeus86: calls 128000
*** TURN *** [Qh 8s 3h] [Ts]
lyi753: bets 523174 and is all-in
Percyeus86: calls 523174
*** RIVER *** [Qh 8s 3h Ts] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lyi753: shows [Qc Ad] (three of a kind, Queens)
Percyeus86: shows [Qs Kd] (three of a kind, Queens - lower kicker)
lyi753 collected 1558348 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1558348 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 8s 3h Ts Qd]
Seat 1: Ivan169254 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: lyi753 showed [Qc Ad] and won (1558348) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 3: woeter1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: fran_d1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Kord1z folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: guby89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Percyeus86 showed [Qs Kd] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: lont7 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: fgs.lopes (small blind) folded before Flop

Thanks.
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07-10-2017 , 06:14 AM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 20,000/40,000 Blinds 4,000 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB (t1,069,651)
UTG (t735,174)
UTG+1 (t380,146)
MP1 (t499,679)
MP2 (t1,457,854)
MP3 (t463,590)
Hero (CO) (t1,148,718)
Button (t328,064)
SB (t1,027,619)

Hero's M: 11.97

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, K
UTG raises to t80,000, 4 folds, Hero calls t80,000, 3 folds

Flop: (t256,000) Q, 8, 3 (2 players)
UTG bets t128,000, Hero calls t128,000

Turn: (t512,000) 10 (2 players)
UTG bets t523,174 (All-In), Hero calls t523,174

River: (t1,558,348) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t1,558,348

Spoiler:

UTG had Q, A (three of a kind, Queens).
Hero had Q, K (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: UTG won t1,558,348


Use: http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
Me and I'm guessing a lot of other 2+2ers will refuse to reply to threads with unconverted hand histories!
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07-10-2017 , 08:32 AM
Even VPIP/PFR for villain would be a big help here. I'm letting this go pre against some opponents.
As played flop is a mandatory call. Turn is a tough spot. Occasionally your beating QJ but your far more likely to see a set or AQ after villain opens utg.
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07-10-2017 , 08:33 AM
pretty easy fold preflop, KQ tends to be dominated by utg range. Also, as a beginner, you should probably be looking to be mostly reshoving or folding vs opens when shallower than 25bb, not calling them.

In addition, you do not have a big hand, you have mediocre hand preflop and one pair postflop.
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07-10-2017 , 08:43 AM
Depending on the table dynamic, usually folding pre. KQ is a nice looking hand, but will get you into trouble a lot against a preflop raise. Calling the flop, but likely folding the turn. Not too many hands he could be shoving here. You are hoping he has AK, KQ, or QJ, but he also has AQ and QT a lot here.
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07-10-2017 , 12:27 PM
KQo is behind to anyone that is trying to play well UTG. 3bet or fold preflop but mainly fold.
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