Nope, this is wrong imo

Fish love sooted cards and will limp/call stuff like T4s, J6s etc. Prob is with iso'ing smaller/mid SCs (89s is prob lowest SC I'd iso with) is that you'll likely be outflushed if you get it all in (most fish aren't dumb enough to stack off with 3flush on board without it), or even outkicked with TP.

Hands to iso are much better with a high card in it, ie QTo, as you'll get at least 2 streets out of the fish that has T4s when you both hit TP.

My range to iso IP is prob:
T9o+, J9o+, Q9o+, K8o+, A5o+ and obv all suited combos of same hands, and maybe looser with Kxs and Axs (roughly 30% range which I think you can open up with reads, on the button etc)

I don't like isoing with small Ax hands unless it's suited and can over flush them bc fish like to limp any A.

^that's where position and hand reading comes in though. Obv not gonna go for 3 streets with A5o, like I would with maybe ATo. Horses for courses though, and at the end of the day, it's what you're comfortable with playing at a profit (even if you may be passing up some more marginal EV spots, that prob doesn't matter too much at the micros)

Yeah I don't iso with offsuit ace rag hands anymore for pretty much this reason. Would much rather iso with QTo, you at least have 2 live cards there that can hit a decent top pair and get value from a fish with worse. If an ace hits on the board you never get as much value since even fish find Axx boards scary unless they hold an ace themselves.

Though if the fish is the type who folds 60%+ to flop cbets (i.e. a fit or folder) I'll iso really wide IP since you can just print money from the cbet even if you don't hit anything.

87s is a no-brainer iso too, as is 86s and 75s.

Cheers guy's.
Yea 3bet pre would of been better but he had been stealing the BB every time it was folded round then blasted the flop so I thought I'D stick that one out and see what happened.
I really have to work on my 3 betting in those spots instead of getting fancy post flop.

Dunna, if your equity is 60/40 against a fish, would you put in 30bb pre (leaving post flop play, 70bb effec) without a second thought?

QTo is standard iso

Huh? We're talking about isoing a limper?

Yeah, I'm exaggerating the point I guess. I wouldn't want to put in too much money pre when our equity is kinda thin. It sort of limits the amount of decisions we can make in future spots during the session in the event we don't win the pot.

It's like choosing between the following:

4 hands with a fish when we're 60/40

or 2 hands where we're 75/25

I would choose the latter. Maybe that's flawed logic though

Are you guys iso'ing instead of limping solely to discourage calls and light iso's behind?

Only time I'd limp MAY be small PPs and like 56s if passive players behind.

I know what you're saying but don't forget that timer over the fish's head. He's gonna give his money to someone, I'd rather be in twice as many pots with twice as many chances to stack him. Remember we don't have to stack off postflop or even put in another cent if we don't want to.

You can lose 4bbs a decent few times before needing to stack them to make it +EV itlr

True dat, true dat

Grinded like 10 hours today. Just to be breakeven :P
but it's all good! Have about 500€ to grind from the downswing, before i'm +0.

FishTankz - you only get 350 hands an hour? How many tables do you play?

I'm unsure about my hands/hour. iPoker keeps having different timezone than other sites, so it's included as separate session.
I'm playing 6-9 tables. Today i played 8 tables, found it to be good setup for having many networks. 6 tables on the main monitor, 2 on the other one. Also adding some table starters to the setup somewhere. Of course some tables die, or i start 4-tabling before the sessions ends.

few hands

h1: don't think i can get away from JJ here. villain was kind of fishy, maybe a regfish. you think 4b gii is ok? I hate flatting and seeing overcards on the flop

iPoker - £0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: £51.45 (VPIP: 29.06, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 119)
MP: £82.01 (VPIP: 61.70, PFR: 45.74, 3Bet Preflop: 35.00, Hands: 99)
Hero (CO): £49.00
BTN: £62.78 (VPIP: 24.87, PFR: 21.32, 3Bet Preflop: 8.14, Hands: 202)
SB: £35.46 (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 21.25, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 81)
BB: £98.89 (VPIP: 21.09, PFR: 16.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.07, Hands: 1,392)

SB posts SB £0.25, BB posts BB £0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: £0.75) Hero has J J

fold, fold, Hero raises to £1.50, fold, SB raises to £3.50, fold, Hero raises to £10.00, SB calls £6.50

Flop: (£20.50, 2 players) 7 3 4
SB checks, Hero bets £8.00, SB raises to £25.00, Hero raises to £39.00, SB calls £0.46

h2: vs reggy looking guy, given stack size probably another reg fish. line screams like 9x, u call?

iPoker - £0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: £27.87 (VPIP: 29.59, PFR: 20.62, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 99)
UTG: £142.79 (VPIP: 60.71, PFR: 46.43, 3Bet Preflop: 34.29, Hands: 88)
Hero (MP): £53.51
CO: £50.75 (VPIP: 24.73, PFR: 20.97, 3Bet Preflop: 8.43, Hands: 191)
BTN: £33.71 (VPIP: 40.68, PFR: 22.03, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 60)
SB: £51.57 (VPIP: 21.40, PFR: 16.88, 3Bet Preflop: 7.22, Hands: 1,358)

SB posts SB £0.25, BB posts BB £0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: £0.75) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to £1.50, fold, fold, fold, BB calls £1.00

Flop: (£3.25, 2 players) 8 7 6
BB checks, Hero bets £2.00, BB raises to £26.37 and is all-in, Hero calls £24.37

h3: do you gii this OTT? how to you play flop? totally ******ed fish, was surprised by results

partypoker - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $50.00 (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 36)
CO: $50.61 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
BTN: $39.62 (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: $50.29 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 16)
BB: $49.85 (VPIP: 69.23, PFR: 11.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.59, Hands: 211)
Hero (UTG): $123.42

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J A

Hero raises to $1.50, fold, CO calls $1.50, fold, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($6.00, 4 players) 9 8 J
SB checks, BB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $16.00, CO calls $16.00, fold, BB calls $10.30

Turn: ($54.00, 3 players) Q
BB bets $32.35 and is all-in, Hero raises to $64.70, fold

River: ($118.70, 2 players) K

Why bet less than half the pot if you were going to get it in anyways? Doesn`t it just induce the raise? If you were going to get it in anyways, why not bet, 2/3 that might fold out worse?
I`d assume I`m not so good here after he called 4bet pre.

I guess my 2NL thinking doesn`t apply here a lot, just wanted to give it a shot.

villain is never folding worse (QQ+, sets) regardless of our sizing.
It may induce to get shoved by 99 or TT which is good. Small cbet sizings in 4b pots are considered standard. I also wanted to keep villains range wide, maybe he floats AK or AQ once with my sizing.

I had the answer in my reply... "why not bet, 2/3 that might fold out worse?" You obv want keep worse there. I`ll better stick to reading other than posting

So satisfying stacking the fish. Conventional sizing ftl.

Calling with Q6s against an UTG open?

Jeez I normally fold as high as KQo there.

Vs a minraise I think it's fine.

More to the point, vs a fish...

Well played. I think you might even be able to bet 2x pot on the turn and get paid off by all sets, two pairs and straights.

and 200bb deep, not folding very often at all there.