An edge of 0 equates to SN RB (assuming you can sell T$ at 1:1).

I only play one table at a time. Non Zoom. It is hard to gain FPP when you also play micro stakes.

Is multi table something I should learn or can I just leave it.

It really depends on what you wish to achieve from the game.

If you want to have fun, one table if that brings you enjoyment, if you want to win money and gain some rakeback you will need to start playing more tables and higher limits. Only once you know what you are doing though.

Yeah, but most people suck & can't sell at 1:1.

Ah. Then comes the harder question. I know I should only move up stakes once I can bankroll it and have been a winner at my current stakes over a large sample of hands. But . . .

When should add another table into the mix? And how many tables should I try to play at once. Once I have had the practice and build up.

Who cares about FPP lol. You should aim to get better and make money in the process, albeit not very much money, and move up. Don't turn into an idiot who tries to play a million tables.

To answer your question, slowly and steadily. So 1 at a time.

I'd start out with 3 or 4 tables, but even nowadays I only play 6. This is more due to the site I play on limiting me to 6 tables, but tbh I don't feel I could play well if I was on 12 tables at once or something.

1 table must be mind numbingly boring though. You could easily go an hour an only get to play 3 or 4 hands if the cards don't go your way.

Patience.
Watching the other players gathering stats.

So for comparison. How many tables would an Online seasoned pro play at once?

Or is this a "how long is a bit of string" kind of question.

This,

I had the same dillemma some time ago.

I started with 1 table of zoom,and when i felt sharp and had a nice session going,i would add 1more and see how that would go.

I have gone this way and gradually added 1 at a time,when i came up to 4,i timed out occasionally,esp. when making notes or in a big hand.I often had a problem remembering the exact preflop action,sometimes even forgot how many people are in the pot,and that really isnt healthy for developing your poker skills.

I toned it down to two,it gives me enough time to think about the hand/board/villain and is at a pace i can easilly follow and try to improve my game,take notes and mark hands.

Like i said i would suggest adding 1 more when you feel you are on your best game and sharp and see how it goes.Dont fire them up when you are in a bad session and try to chase those loses faster,that usually doesnt end well.

This is from my own observation during the two months i started playing cash games,i am in no way experienced,but this is just from my own observation as i went through the same dillemma.

It really depends. I would think it's 'probably' between 9-12 reg tables, or 3-4 zoom tables. Though that's just pulling numbers out of my ass really, I've no idea.

There's some complete sickos who can 24 table too. Don't know how they do it really.

I remember pre BF, I was playing like 14 tables of 25NL, no HUD (I wouldn't know how was sitting with me, just looked at my cards), 50BB deep.
Downloaded a chart from pokerstrategy or something, and was just push/folding pre.

[spoiler]and I made profit[/spoiler]

How have you found the games at Partypoker? Specifically the NL25 tables? I'm looking to add a couple of extra tables to my grind and 888 caps us at 6 tables so I'm looking for a new network so I can grind say, 6 tables at 888 and 3 tables somewhere else.

I mostly play 100nl casual cash game table.
But Party is basically full of ******s (no offense). Regs hate the site since it has low cashback. You get most value from first deposit bonus. After that you aren't getting much, maybe 8% or up to 16%.
I remember WPT poker was offering 100$ first deposit bonus which is easy to clear. Maybe try out the site with that?
Btw also research the deposit options and fees on them. Party was taking 3% on skrill withdrawals uncapped.

Hmm well I'm used to a lack of cashback since I play on 888 where we only get 4% unless you seriously bust your ass to reach Gold status and even then it's only 9%.

So there's plenty of fish there? Suppose I could always just clear the deposit bonus. Rake is the same on 888 so it's a case of are there as many fish over on Party. For comparison, if you select a random 20nl table on 888, you'd have to be pretty unlucky not to have a fish at the table, a good 85% or so of tables will have at least 1 fish, often 2.

Yeah i would say so. There is a lot of tables to choose from, so should be able to find fish.
If you have already cleared 888 bonus, then try PartyPoker or BWIN.
If you want to keep playing 6 tables of 888, then i would suggest clearing the WPT poker bonus. It's same network as the two above.

Few preflop spots

vs tight reg, havent seen him go crazy. it's tight as hell but meh, sizing and everything.

OnGame - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $148.50 (VPIP: 22.62, PFR: 13.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.32, Hands: 225)
MP: $32.53 (VPIP: 48.89, PFR: 24.44, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 47)
CO: $147.11 (VPIP: 22.38, PFR: 17.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 1,400)
Hero (BTN): $107.15
SB: $166.68 (VPIP: 28.49, PFR: 19.55, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 181)
BB: $96.50 (VPIP: 22.04, PFR: 17.42, 3Bet Preflop: 4.53, Hands: 805)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has K A

UTG raises to $3.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $8.50, fold, fold, UTG raises to $22.50, fold

UTG wins $18.50

vs fish i assume 4-bet gii is bad vs him unless he is gambling with worse, i dunno. On the flop we don't go into his trap lol?

OnGame - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $99.78 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BB: $67.64 (VPIP: 21.14, PFR: 15.80, 3Bet Preflop: 7.82, Hands: 1,509)
UTG: $27.71 (VPIP: 27.59, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
Hero (CO): $52.34
BTN: $55.65 (VPIP: 20.96, PFR: 16.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.04, Hands: 2,123)

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB raises to $5.00, fold, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50, 2 players) A K J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($10.50, 2 players) 9
SB bets $8.00, fold

Timed out, turned out to be good. but i guess we need to 4-bet?

OnGame - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): $39.67
CO: $31.12 (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BTN: $6.81 (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: $25.74 (VPIP: 33.87, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 63)
BB: $6.73 (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 40)
UTG: $40.83 (VPIP: 34.12, PFR: 18.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.19, Hands: 480)

SB posts SB $0.15, BB posts BB $0.30

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.45) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to $0.90, CO raises to $2.70, BTN raises to $6.81 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $4.11

Flop: ($14.97, 2 players) 8 2 4

Turn: ($14.97, 2 players) 9

River: ($14.97, 2 players) 6

Never feel good about making these calls but felt this needed to be made against this guy, he was active, but QQ and TT were easily in his range I feel, amongst other hands:

32/26 4.0 AgF but only after 38 hands

tankz:

H1 why are you 3betting?
H2 I GII pre but flatting's also fine. The thing is fish often have this range of 'good hands' they always stack and often that range is as wide as AQ 99 even for 40/10 types.
H3 rip it in all day erry day

@bhoy looks good

MP3 seems to be a reg. Only 90 hands on him, 15/13 and 3bet: 15,6. Saw him 3bet my CO open from BU, my BU open from BB and some guy's MP open from CO (and this one), all in the same session.
MP2 is unknown, 50/30 over 10 hands.

Assumed MP3 was 3betting pretty light, so decided to cold 4bet to try and take it right there. Don't think it's really bad.

Is QTs the type of hand to do this, or blockers (A2-ATs for example are preferred)? With SC do you prefer to play your position and implied odds? How do you play 22-TT here?

Have you played snap poker on 888?

Played a session at 25nl Party. Played 9 tables.
I don't love the software, i think iPoker is better for multitabling, but that's just my opinion.
I think the buttons are "sticky", often when you press something it sometimes doesn't click. tables were decent, a lot to choose from. for some reason software keeps having a small flash/blink effect on multiple tables which is annoying. overall i just don't love the software.

gotta lose that money.

partypoker - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $23.50 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: $10.78 (VPIP: 20.28, PFR: 18.88, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 148)
MP: $19.87 (VPIP: 44.29, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 71)
CO: $23.47 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 33.58, PFR: 28.47, 3Bet Preflop: 14.00, Hands: 143)
Hero (SB): $33.08

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($4.75, 2 players) 4 6 T
Hero bets $3.50, CO raises to $7.00, Hero raises to $30.83 and is all-in, CO calls $14.22 and is all-in

Turn: ($47.19, 2 players) 5

River: ($47.19, 2 players) 8

CO shows 4 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours) (Pre 19%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 81%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $9.61
CO wins $44.84

this is good example of how ******ed players are at party. I don't want to xb and lose to AK, so i think i have to stab here. unsure of his 3-bet stat, he could have KJ though, or bluff. maybe i can bet smaller since he should be folding a lot, and probably wont fold 2nd nuts to one bet
this hand really makes me tilt, but yeah complaining is bad. i really get mad at players for these lines

partypoker - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $25.79
BTN: $38.13 (VPIP: 19.71, PFR: 17.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.29, Hands: 499)
SB: $27.28 (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 14.10, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 81)
BB: $39.79 (VPIP: 19.13, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 184)
UTG: $28.27 (VPIP: 19.17, PFR: 15.83, 3Bet Preflop: 5.68, Hands: 244)
MP: $42.99 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 38)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, SB raises to $2.70, fold, Hero calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.65, 2 players) 8 K 9
SB bets $2.63, Hero calls $2.63

Turn: ($10.91, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets $6.00, SB calls $6.00

River: ($22.91, 2 players) 4
SB bets $15.95 and is all-in, fold

Work on your thought process

yeah, as some of his AK has flush.
i just quit masstabling from now on. i don't know why it seemed good idea. red line is tanking a lot and i don't make enough in blue line. keep autopiloting. just playing 6 tables from now on, picking best games from ongame/iPoker.

tried to get money from this big fish, really tried. with jamming he might fold his 99 kind of hands, while he is committed with min-raise. i also keep lead for river.

iPoker - £0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: £50.00 (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 16.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.19, Hands: 358)
MP: £28.25 (VPIP: 22.98, PFR: 18.94, 3Bet Preflop: 6.72, Hands: 329)
CO: £86.50 (VPIP: 89.19, PFR: 27.03, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 37)
BTN: £93.96 (VPIP: 27.69, PFR: 22.31, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 135)
SB: £55.07 (VPIP: 25.04, PFR: 19.87, 3Bet Preflop: 8.75, Hands: 652)
Hero (BB): £50.00

SB posts SB £0.25, Hero posts BB £0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: £0.75) Hero has K K

fold, fold, CO raises to £1.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to £4.00, CO calls £3.00

Flop: (£8.25, 2 players) 5 3 5
Hero bets £5.00, CO raises to £10.00, Hero calls £5.00

Turn: (£28.25, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, CO bets £8.50, Hero raises to £17.00, CO calls £8.50

River: (£62.25, 2 players) 6
Hero bets £19.00, CO calls £19.00

4bet/fold pre better? Got 4 hands on villain no stats. Get in these spots a lot with JJ/QQ/TT.

4-bet/call, 4-bet folding is like pretty ******ed here

or flat -> check-call and either check fold turn or b/f turn