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04-02-2014 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
I asked what do you 3bet, not why do you 3bet. So same question.
Oh sorry I red it wrong. I guess I'm 3 betting for value with KQs+,JJ+ and squeezing as a bluff from time to time with hands that have blockers since both villain seems to show a fair amount of weakness.

I don't really consider AK the bottom of my range here since it's only a min raise but I could be wrong.
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04-02-2014 , 07:29 AM
So like half your range is nutty as hell, any AQ has an OESD and better blockers. Hands like A5s or whatever you mean by hands with blockers have less showdown value.

So the only reason I'd be betting AKo is if I thought villain was going to be folding a huge amount and against a player who's range probably hits this board reasonably well and will call with any form of straight draw I don't see that being the case.

I also think it's reasonably unlikely he will apply much pressure against us without a reasonably good hand. So we get to realize a bit of equity for free against his like Tx hands which aren't folding to a bet anyway.
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04-02-2014 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ToTcH
Hi guys!

Yesterday I played my first session of the month and I faced this situation.

Villain is 32/16. This sport might be very standard for you but I really don't know what to do there. I have two over cards and a gutshot straight draw but that board pretty much smashes his range doesn't it?

    Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #25461781

    CO: $5.32 (133 bb)
    BTN: $6.65 (166.3 bb)
    Hero (BB): $7.89 (197.3 bb)
    SB: $1.33 (33.3 bb)
    UTG: $19.82 (495.5 bb)
    MP: $3.61 (90.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.36, MP calls $0.28, CO folds

    Flop: ($0.82) 9 T J (2 players)
    Hero ?



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    def checking here.
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    04-02-2014 , 08:34 AM
    So after about 6 weeks my best mate has beaten 5nl at a pretty decent clip and is now shotting 10nl. Considering he'd never played online cash before I'm pretty pumped we can get to 50 before summers end
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    04-02-2014 , 08:36 AM
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    Originally Posted by MMSS
    So like half your range is nutty as hell, any AQ has an OESD and better blockers. Hands like A5s or whatever you mean by hands with blockers have less showdown value.

    So the only reason I'd be betting AKo is if I thought villain was going to be folding a huge amount and against a player who's range probably hits this board reasonably well and will call with any form of straight draw I don't see that being the case.

    I also think it's reasonably unlikely he will apply much pressure against us without a reasonably good hand. So we get to realize a bit of equity for free against his like Tx hands which aren't folding to a bet anyway.
    Very good post. Thank you very much.

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    def checking here.
    Thanks for the answer. That's what I did so now I feel good about it
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    04-02-2014 , 09:02 AM
    March was horrible



    Luckily I was playing $1.50 SnG's, so didn't really hurt me money wise, but still **** especially for my confidence ('wow I can't even beat these noobs?')

    Now moving up to $3.50 as the rake at $1.50 is far from ideal and I just played them for getting into the SNG flow. We'll see what April brings.
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    04-02-2014 , 09:52 AM
    Surely you're not putting you losing down to rake? That'd be silly.
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    04-02-2014 , 10:03 AM
    Where did I do that? I agree it would be silly.
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    04-02-2014 , 10:44 AM
    kk, so you're also aware that 3.50s are harder than 1.50s?
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    04-02-2014 , 11:13 AM
    4/1/14 BR-900 -210 day


    Finally cracked the 1100 mark and decided to shot take to 50NL with a few BI. The move to 50NL did not go well. KK went 0/5 to continue to be my least favorite overpair in poker. I lost to some gems like 93s and A4o to learn that there are still fishies at 50nl. I'm gonna drop back down to 10/20 NL to lick my wounds and regroup on Sunday when RB hits. The good news is that NJ poker is definitely beatable. I was crushing 20NL for weeks so this is most likely just variance balancing out with a little bit of me being uncomfortable at the highest limit I've ever played.

    Goals: Keep up on this thread. Do some review on SPR and 3betting. Bite the bullet and download HM2.
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    04-02-2014 , 11:44 AM
    @Roszzz, you are reviewing hands, and doing ICM quizzes etc to get better?

    Last month I won a lot of money. Specific details in my PGC but 25k hands total:

    25NL Zoom: roughly $700 won
    Everything else: roughly $125 lost (inc $225 lost as 50NL shot)

    Edit - goals for the month:

    [ ] Move up to 50NL
    [ ] 25k hands (lofty volume goals aren't going to work any more)
    [ ] Win more money than Dunna
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    04-02-2014 , 12:09 PM
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    [ ] Win more money than Dunna
    That's seriously one of your goals?!

    Shouldn't be too hard as I dropped another 4 BIs in my first session of the month.

    Obviously winning more BIs may be a better goal if u intend to remain at 25nl?
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    04-02-2014 , 12:25 PM
    Just kind of a joke, I don't really know how the next month is going to go and I don't want to be the one who has the most to complain about (sorry mate).
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    04-02-2014 , 12:29 PM
    The way my month has started I will probably be Captain Complainy Pants. Starting with set over set and QJs on a board of QQK against KK
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    04-02-2014 , 12:40 PM
    ^^ fair enough. I'd recommend working on ur play vs LAGs for when u do move up. Certainly more of them who have an idea of what they're doing rather than just pure spew monkies, and they can be pretty annoying, especially as just staying away from them doesn't really cut it anymore
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    04-02-2014 , 01:35 PM
    Just remember that good player can turn that "bad luck" around!
    Would be pretty awesome to play the whole month in a same objective mindset. That failed last month, ended up making more light calls in order to turn that downswing around. Gladly some of them worked.
    Like this:

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    Originally Posted by Fishtankz
    Villain tanked for a while on the turn when i made the bet.
    Now thoughts on this river call? I beat two pair hands and sets he could overplay and we have one blocker for flush combos. No notes on this villain but obviously a fish.

    PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    SB: $3.97 (VPIP: 51.56, PFR: 10.94, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 66)
    BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 14.58, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
    Hero (UTG): $25.08
    CO: $18.75 (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
    BTN: $12.56 (VPIP: 76.79, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, 5 players post ante of $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.25) Hero has Q K

    Hero raises to $0.30, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

    Flop: ($0.85, 2 players) A T 2
    Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

    Turn: ($1.85, 2 players) J
    Hero bets $1.30, BTN calls $1.30

    River: ($4.45, 2 players) 4
    Hero bets $3.00, BTN raises to $10.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.44
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    04-02-2014 , 01:56 PM
    That's a light call?
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    04-02-2014 , 02:10 PM
    Not the lightest call, but maybe. Isn't that a standard line with flush draw?
    But there's like a ton of arguments for calling.
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    04-02-2014 , 02:40 PM
    Calling with a bare fd ott would be bad
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    04-02-2014 , 02:45 PM
      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #25470641

      BTN: $0.77 (38.5 bb)
      SB: $2 (100 bb)
      BB: $1.83 (91.5 bb)
      UTG+1: $2.19 (109.5 bb)
      UTG+2: $1.50 (75 bb)
      MP1: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $2 (100 bb)
      MP3: $0.98 (49 bb)
      CO: $3.54 (177 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q Q
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.20, BB folds, Hero calls $0.14

      Flop: ($0.42) 6 6 A (2 players)
      SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

      Turn: ($1.02) 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $1.02 pot ($0.04 rake)
      Final Board: 6 6 A 8
      SB mucked and lost (-$0.50 net)
      Hero mucked Q Q and won $0.98 ($0.48 net)



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      Villain is 12/12 and 3bet: 7 over 95 hands. Flop CB: 100 and Turn CB: 0

      Was it a really bad spot to bluff?
      He tanked before betting the flop, and 'I knew' (I don't have much gut feelings, but this was one). He would cbet that flop most of the times since it hits his range, but he will tank only with hands he is in trouble with (KK, QQ). So decided to flat and, if he checked the turn back, I would try to bluff him.
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      04-02-2014 , 02:49 PM
      I think we should be checking QQ there, plenty of showdown value only really worried about KK as he continues with most his Ax unless his 3bet range is made up of lots of weak Axs which I think would be unreasonable to assume unless we had evidence of this. Also if he does check anything like AJs he sure as hell ain't folding it.

      I also think we have worse hands in our range that benefit more from betting than QQ does.
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      04-02-2014 , 02:56 PM
      your opponent probably won't care what sizing you pick, he has made his decision when he checks. If you do bluff, bluff smaller like 50-60%.
      you are looking to fold KK, JJ or QQ from his range. Given that he raised your EP open, i don't think he has light 3b range. His range has a lot of AK combos. So i think it's -EV to float the flop. I also think he is flatting 88-TT, maybe JJ too.
      So you are looking at 16 combos of AK (we have no blockers) and 3 combos of AA. Vs 6 combos of KK and 1 combo of QQ. JJ add 6 combos. 19 value combos vs 13 weak combos. Should be easy decision.
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      04-02-2014 , 05:49 PM
      Agree with MMSS and Fishtankz. The only better hand that can fold is KK imo so I wouldn't risk so much money on a bluff and use your showdown value.
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      04-02-2014 , 05:54 PM
      If you use a different size when you bluff than when you value bet (lets say 50% pot vs 75% pot), isn't a big tell?
      Much like opening 3xBB marginal hands and 4xBB AA/KK
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      04-02-2014 , 06:48 PM
      Here I go, posting in these for the first time.

      [ ] 3-4 table 25c 45mans
      [ ] break current downswong
      [ ] study more

      hard-mode:
      [ ] better control of my emotions -> crush cold hearted
      [ ] grind 25 more dollars so I can move to 50c 45mans
      [ ] reach ChromeStar

      March:
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