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08-16-2017 , 12:40 PM

Garrynych

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 29

Party, $10 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37810326

Hero (SB): 135,136 (22.5 bb)
UTG+2: 466,294 (77.7 bb)
CO: 166,986 (27.8 bb)
BB: 379,686 (63.3 bb)
MP1: 111,493 (18.6 bb)
BTN: 243,080 (40.5 bb)
MP2: 201,457 (33.6 bb)
MP3: 103,538 (17.3 bb)

Just recently got thrown to this table, so no stats/reads/image to speak of. No particularly aggressive or loose plays for either me or villain, that's about it.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

5 folds, BTN calls 6,000, Hero raises to 18,000, BB folds, BTN calls 12,000

Flop: (46,800) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets 23,400,
(and immediately kicks himself for not betting more.
The point is to throw weak pairs and straight draws - my main concern here - out of the hand, and a 1/2 pot bet just isn's gonna do it. Should've been a pot-sized bet, which would be almost half my stack, so gets upgraded to a shove right away).
...BTN calls 23,400

Turn: (93,600) 5

(2 players)
(looks like a blank for both of us. Now I either give up or shove second barrel. Draws, 7x,Tx and weak kings should fold; KT-KQ, T7
and 77 probably not, but could get scared of my TT/KK (unlikely yeah). Two pair+ would sometimes be reraising flop, so not as probable. Plus I still have 8% to hit my gutshot and win anyway.
Hero bets 93,136 and is all-in, BTN calls 93,136

River: (279,872) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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My questions are:
1) Do you agree that if I'm betting flop at all here, it should be a shove?
2) What do you think of the second barrel on the turn?
3) Any ideas on the reasoning of my opponent when he called turn?

And yeah, I know the answers change depending on what I know about the opponent. Unfortuately, all I knew was that he got to a late stage of the tournament with a big stack, so should be at least decent.

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08-16-2017 , 02:46 PM

PlusEEV

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 92

OOP I'm probably just checking the flop, and hoping for a check back. Doubt you're getting him to lay down Kx here.

And honestly, pre I'm not sure how often button is open-limp folding to your 3x. Prob not often as he's got a relatively sizable stack and he has the positional advantage. If he raised pre however, I'd be inclined to jam because my range crushes his.

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To be clear, pre I'd like a check with AJ in the BB vs button limp, I don't think the 3x accomplishes much vs his stack. If you wanna get crazy you could shove it, his calling range is almost nonexistent unless he's getting sneaky limping button with a premium. Otherwise, I'd like a check. Once that flop comes, maybe 1/3-1/2 pot bet, or a check call if his bet is reasonable enough.

AP I think you just played too big of a pot oop with a hand that isn't really that great. Get it in pre, or play a small pot post. Otherwise find a better spot.

Last edited by PlusEEV; 08-16-2017 at 03:13 PM.

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08-16-2017 , 03:38 PM

Garrynych

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 29

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Originally Posted by PlusEEV

Get it in pre, or play a small pot post.

That makes a lot of sense, thanks. The pre raise really doesn't accomplish that much, now that I think of it. The rest is just consequences.

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Any other thoughts, anyone?
(asking just in case. I'm quite satisfied with the answer I got.)

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08-16-2017 , 04:05 PM

ArtyMcFly

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

I think you can use anything up to pot-sized on the flop, as it's good for your range. Even a small bet can work well, since you'd want to get a little bit of value with your Kx/AA or better. Your Broadway draws are the natural balancers for your value-bets. Turn can be a check or a jam.

Villain is clearly a whale. He probably feels "committed" with his gutshot after he calls on the flop. He should probably be committed to an asylum instead of the pot.

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