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06-25-2017 , 05:31 AM

TK1991

grinder

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 453

Hi, what is the best line in this situation? do you check/raise range on turn? which cards do you check/raise? thanks for reply

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
BB: $108.88 (108.9 bb)
Hero (UTG): $174.24 (174.2 bb)
MP: $48.94 (48.9 bb)
CO: $95.30 (95.3 bb)
BTN: $151.26 (151.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9

Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BTN raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero calls $6
Flop: ($19.50) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($19.50) 2

(2 players)
Hero ?

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06-25-2017 , 06:19 AM

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,714

If you're actually at 100NL, stop posting in BQ. Otherwise, stop making hands up and post your own hands.

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06-25-2017 , 06:22 AM

TheGull

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 178

I like checking more than betting here. It appears that villain has whiffed the flop and won't be donating anything more to you unless it's by way of a bluff. I'm also not sure that there is a lot that is going to call a donk bet on this board. On the other hand there are a good amount of river cards to come that will make it a much scarier board.

I lean towards check, personally. Depending on the tendencies of the villain, of course.

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06-25-2017 , 08:56 AM

Tutejszy

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,633

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It appears that villain has whiffed the flop

why?

before you answer, it would appear that you seem to think that it's because he checked - which is only true for very bad players, who seem to play very merged ranges (they base their decisions on how "comfortable" they feel about their hand, and they don't feel "comfortable" with pure air).

In reality, most people who are at least remotly competent will be checking merged range, meaning most of their checks will contain at least some showdown value. Therefore, as for hand, you should be checking back vs complete fish and betting versus everyone else.

Last edited by Tutejszy; 06-25-2017 at 09:01 AM.

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06-25-2017 , 11:53 AM

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

I think you can check or bet the turn. Indeed, the GTO solution is probably do both at some frequency.
Since you'd have some draws in your range, you'd bet some of those as semi-bluffs, and balance with your strong hands, but you'd also check with draws if you're also checking some made hands.

FWIW, BTN should often check back AK on the flop, and he's usually betting the turn, so you're not losing value from that hand specifically by checking again. A check-raise is going to be very profitable if villain is checking flop and betting the turn at a high frequency with Kx or AA.

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06-25-2017 , 01:15 PM

Tutejszy

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,633

did you change the hh or did I missread it? I was sure we were IP and the question was about the flop. In this spot we should be betting our sets at high frequency vs pretty much anyone.

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06-26-2017 , 06:23 PM

TheDefiniteArticle

Indecisive

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 14,123

If you're posting in BQ and playing 100NL, something is wrong. I suspect if you perceive yourself as a beginner you're playing about 4 limits too high at least.

Start with a turn bet, 70%.

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