I just had this hand at the start of a session. When loose-passive player in EP limps, I iso-raise (should have made it 8c really) and get called in 4 spots. I wasn't gonna c-bet, but made TPTK. What's the plan?

Relevant stats: Caller of c-bet plays 35/15. Check-raiser is a break-even LAG playing 42/13 with a flop check-raise percentage of 18%.

in before people tell you to reload pre

def make it more pre, 10c is good. flop bet should be a touch more, say 20c. now i don't know

buy in for full :P

re raise all in. they're fish so they will call with worse.

At 60bb and vs an 18% checkraiser I'm never folding here. Probably call flop and look to get it in on the turn, depending on what card comes and if the CO sticks around.

And yeah, if you're folding TPTK to a minraise from a LAG you might as well buy in full.

I would generally fold to a x/r in a non-3bet MW pot with TPTK unless the villain is a maniac. However, I would have c-bet more like 25c - likely best hand, wet board, 3 villains, get value. As you said, more like 8c pre.

Personally I'd isolate somewhere between 10-12 cents. He's a fish and is likely to call with alot of worse hands so lets punish him as much as possible.

I'd prolly stack off with TPTK there against fish. He has alot of hands that we beat in his range. Straight draws, worse Js and Ts. Do you have his AF stat?

pretty much this.

Iso way bigger, get it in here.

Villain's AF is something like 2.8, so not super high, but quite aggro for full ring 2NL.
When I glanced at the HUD it said "9% raise flop c-bet", which generally means 2pr+, and it was only post-session that I saw in the HUD pop up that his check-raise flop was 18%, which would indicate he raises top pairs and draws too, so there's a good chance I was ahead here.

I actually folded, partly because it was right at the start of a session. (Which also explains why my bet-sizing was off. It takes a while to get "in the zone"). If I lose a big pot early on, I can go on tilt for a while, so I tend to play overly cautiously until I've got some momentum. I've definitely got to be a bit more aggressive if I'm ever to move out of nanostakes. Thanks for all the responses.

-10c pre...maybe more depending on their defending range based on sizing.
-cbet near pot...20c-25c. No reason to bet less, really. A lot of hands that you're ahead of will be calling that sizing, anyway.
-Ez fold to ck/r, I don't see why anyone would ck/r worse as a bluff...especially when the CO calls your cbet

I'd like more pre, starting out with 0.14 if they fold next time I make it 0.12 if they fold next time I make it 0.10

More on the flop multiway with TPTK you're probably good most of the times and since we're short we like to get it in ASAP.

Arty you should really do some math on Pot Geometry off the tables, you always end up with terrible Stack sizes on the Turn/River in almost every hand I see from you

in this hand would you bet 0.10$ pre (and it's 2 caller) 0.30$ on the flop you have 1.10$ behind

If you bet 0.20$ and you get 1 caller it's 0.70$ in the pot while you are having 0.90$ behind.

If you bet 0.25$ and you get 1 caller it's 0.80$ in the pot while you are having 0.85$ behind which is better but still not good enough

If you bet 0.30$ and you get 1 caller it's 0.90$ in the pot while you are having 0.80$ behind and you can easily shove (any good turn card).
If you want to bet less than PSB on the flop you can make it 0.27 and still get it in on the turn (0.83 into 0.84pot)

Esp. when raising bets/trying to get it in you should know how to reach the leverage point on the Turn more often so you don't overbet awkward stack sizes

Having a massive multiway pot with AJo when we flop TPTK against 4 people and getting x/r is usually a bad sign, people are calling almost ATC and x/r only 2pair+ and overpairs @ 2NL

Agreed. I always run away screaming when I see posts about SPR, but just lately I've been finding myself in weird spots where a shove on the turn is too much of an overbet, but a small bet doesn't achieve anything. I'll either start buying in for 100bb, or finally get around to learning what are good and bad SPRs. (I know that 13 is bad, but that's about it!)

SPRs is not that important, it's intresting to know if we're deep enough to call a raise to draw to a OESD or NFD, but I rather do Pot Odd/ImpliedOdds calculations on the spot than calculating how much SPR I have

Just take your time on the flop, look how much you need to bet/raise so you can ship the Turn

I think a basic rule of thumb was
1/4 pot makes the pot 1.5
1/2 pot makes the pot 2x
PSB makes the pot 3x

but usually just do a quick ownbet*2+pot<stack calculation so you can ship the turn/river with your value hands

you're missing out on a lot of value if you just play it timidly with 1/2 psb all the time for no reason other than just because

- Get 100bb stack
- Make preflop bet higher
- Make flop bet higher
- Shove all-in (Only thing you should be scared about is a set of threes)

reload pre to, like the max. 100bb is merely a futile attempt to stack them fishes.

fold. vpip is 42 I would muck it. your flop bet should be bigger.

edit: folding to the c/r cause, its 2nl.