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05-30-2012, 09:41 AM
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2nl 6max on pokerstars
anyone can help me with some raising and 3betting ranges by position?
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05-30-2012, 09:53 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
Totally villain dependant.
Typical PFR hands (I know others are going to disagree, just a personal chart)
UTG: 22+, AJo+, KQs+
MP: 22+, A9o+, QJs+
CO: 22+ A8o+, K10o+, T9s+ (sometimes down to 78s,67s but once again depends on villains to act.)
BT: 22+, A2o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J8o+, T7s+, 97s+, 54s+.
SB: As above if unopened.
3betting varies so much on the opponent that you're playing against, there are villains that I will rarely ever 3bet against if they're 4/3 rocks, but will open up my range to 3betting wide if against an aggro donk.
You then have the situation of 3betting if you feel the button or sb are trying to steal and you're in the BB, but that's a totally different story.
Generally, at 2nl, bet on every street when you hit, but reassess if villain starts playing back or c/c every street.
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06-01-2012, 04:39 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
thanks. one more question: what are the perfect hm stats? vpip, pfr, 3bet etc.
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06-01-2012, 05:01 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
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Originally Posted by cha4zz
Totally villain dependant.
Typical PFR hands (I know others are going to disagree, just a personal chart)
UTG: 22+, AJo+, KQs+
MP: 22+, A9o+, QJs+
CO: 22+ A8o+, K10o+, T9s+ (sometimes down to 78s,67s but once again depends on villains to act.)
BT: 22+, A2o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J8o+, T7s+, 97s+, 54s+.
SB: As above if unopened.
3betting varies so much on the opponent that you're playing against, there are villains that I will rarely ever 3bet against if they're 4/3 rocks, but will open up my range to 3betting wide if against an aggro donk.
You then have the situation of 3betting if you feel the button or sb are trying to steal and you're in the BB, but that's a totally different story.
Generally, at 2nl, bet on every street when you hit, but reassess if villain starts playing back or c/c every street.
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This would be thin with bottom pair...
+1 to the ranges however. Seem nice and solid.
"Perfect HEM stats" dont exist. Everyone plays a differnt game. After you have logged 10k hands or so, post your stats in the stats thread (not sure where its located...) and a reg will take a look and locate any obvious leakes.
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06-01-2012, 05:34 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
Chaz's ranges are good. Adjust CO and BTN according to who is left to act, you should vary anywhere between tightening somewhat and expanding to ATC to steal from nits.
As he said 3 bets are very situational, I might do anything from folding AK (rarely) to 3-betting/shove depending on the villain. But at 2NL you should largely stick to a strict value range, just adjust what you consider value. You can usually get it in with QQ+.
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Originally Posted by wu-tang
thanks. one more question: what are the perfect hm stats? vpip, pfr, 3bet etc.
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No such thing. Play according to table conditions. 10/7 is too tight; 40/30 is too loose. Start tight, I'm a giant nit and run about 18/14.
Rack up 1000 hands and we can tell you how your VPIP/PRF is. Rack up 10K and post in the stats thread in this forum.
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06-01-2012, 05:43 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
thanks guys. i have been winner on bet365 at 10nl, i was taking shots with small sums, not playing in bankroll. but i'm having troubles beating 2nl on pokerstars, lol. or maybe it's a bad start?
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06-01-2012, 06:49 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
2nl can be hard to beat cause its so wild but you just need to make the right adjustments.
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06-01-2012, 07:12 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
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Originally Posted by wu-tang
thanks guys. i have been winner on bet365 at 10nl, i was taking shots with small sums, not playing in bankroll. but i'm having troubles beating 2nl on pokerstars, lol. or maybe it's a bad start?
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2NL is pretty easy to beat, it's not play money but if you beat 10NL anywhere I can't imagine you will be unable to crush it.
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06-04-2012, 05:29 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
stats over 5k on various limits. 2nl not included because i didnt had hm back then.
i messed up my mind about playing in bankroll cuz i have final exams coming soon and no time. decided to take shots like i did on b365.
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06-04-2012, 06:02 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
Just seeing a red x there.
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06-04-2012, 06:19 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
wut?
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06-04-2012, 09:22 AM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
2nl is very easy to beat, its all about value.
People think its hard due the people being so loose, just ride some variance and you'll profit.
Cha4zz ranges are fine I tend to tighten up UTG and use cha4zz range but from 77+ and the rests fine.
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06-04-2012, 05:55 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
just for kicks, you could probably beat 2nl 4-6 tabling 6max without a HUD right?
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06-04-2012, 06:49 PM
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Re: 2nl 6max on pokerstars
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Originally Posted by dillchips
just for kicks, you could probably beat 2nl 4-6 tabling 6max without a HUD right?
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Yes, but why bother?
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