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10-16-2013 , 11:38 AM


I had to redeem myself with short play royal pic...you never look at 4 5's playing quarters the same after hits like this...kinda bums me out tbh..
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10-16-2013 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Canitallbesosimple
I had to redeem myself with short play royal pic...you never look at 4 5's playing quarters the same after hits like this...kinda bums me out tbh..
Nice hit, but I would personally try to avoid playing machines where you're expected to lose > $400/hr on average if you are playing at a reasonably fast pace (800 hands/hr). It's a worse game (97.87%) than 7/5 Super Double Double Bonus (98.61%) which you said you found on the new machines whose paytables "made you sick".

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Originally Posted by xpc899
I enjoy viewing jackpot photos, but sometimes the pay schedules startle me.
So do I. Also what is disturbing is on the last two photos, the machine locked up on wins < $1200.

And speaking of photos and 7/5 Super Double Double Bonus, this is what I hit from my Tunica trip this weekend. I was going to play Double Deuces Wild, same paytable as xpc showed but double 4 Deuce payout obv, (98.85% + prog) at the other bar, but it was packed for "Karaoke night".

Day 1:

I am poor and usually play nickels unless the game is > 99%, but I seem to have better luck when the game is <99%. After a 5+ hour drive, I mostly wanted some beer and and watch the baseball game. So I decided to just max bet slowly, and 98.8% w/the prog is "good enough". I probably hit these first three hands in less than 200 hands tops. Considering what I hit though, playing DDW would have been a bit nicer.







Up $320 for the day. Second biggest one-day total in my life. Still waiting on that quarter Royal...

Day 2:

Hit Sam's Town early to take advantage of a 10X multiplier. Played 9/6 Jacks at the bar for a bit. Nothing pretty, but stayed afloat. ~-$15

Went to Fitzgeralds to have a bite to eat. Sit at the bar to gain a beer and a water. Shortplay because paytable sucks (6/5 Super Aces is best choice available). Get AK clubs maybe 20 hands in, and since I was shortplaying, I did hit the right miracle draw at least, 1 in 16,215 chance each for either 4 Aces or a Royal.



Get back to the casino we are staying at, Tunica Roadhouse. And I am downing more beer and playing for "fun". g/f is trying to drag me upstairs...hit this right before quitting for the night.



Up $95 for the day.

Day 3:

Didn't do so well this day, but I still lowrolled because I was happy to lock up my biggest casino win of the year.

Went to Harrahs, max bet quarters at pickem poker for a bit just because I haven't played that game in a long while and it's their best quarter game (98.74%). Well, I couldn't even get a 3 of a kind, so that was a $20 mistake.

Hit Sam's Town briefly for another promo. I got garbage, but she got a $10 food credit at least. We used it to eat the buffet on the way out.

Go back to Fitzgeralds for their $7 buffet on Mondays. We see that the line is a bit long, so we decide to do a "video poker challenge". It's a bit of a tradition of ours even if it's sad and pathetic to any real gambler. We both get $1 and play for either 20 min. or the other one goes broke. We both got a comped drink in the process. Needless to say, I won this time.



After this went back to the Roadhouse and had a pretty big quad drought. But I did still have a few picture worthy hits.

While struggling, I watch this lady next to me playing 3-play 9/6 DDB w/STP for quarters (99.26% max). I noticed her balance jump $1000 while occasionally staring. Would later learn it was a Royal. She also got 4 Aces. Probably up over a grand there, but she admitted she was down for the trip.

I also got 4 Aces that night for my first quad, but...fml



Straight Flush again?!?! First time I have hit 2 SFs in a day (excluding deuces wild obv)



I also got what many Double STP players hearts will skip a beat for. A 10X...followed by a 10X!! I actually have hit this twice now. The first time was at Flamingo on July 1st of last year. I didn't hit a winner, so I didn't bother to take a picture of it. Once I did the math, I was kicking myself that I didn't do it. It should occur about 1 in 532,387 rounds of play and will be a dealt Royal 5.46% of the time when it happens. Figured I'd be lucky if I ever see it again, and damn better be sure I would snap a pic of it, but where was the dealt Royal?



At least I got a winner I guess...

Eventually, the lady playing quarters left her machine, so I planned to take another $20 crack at it for a single line max bet. Nada.

So I am still quadless and about $50 in the hole and back playing Double STP for cheap. I was mostly just playing one hand and licking my wounds and getting wasted. This trip I have occasionally played more hands when certain songs game up. My g/f had long went to bed before this, but she likes Shania Twain. She went to see her in Vegas while I sneaked off to play mix game poker. So "I'm Gonna Getcha Good!" plays in the casino. So I decide wtf and bump up one more hand and start playing. While playing, I hear...de doo de de doo de de de doo doo de de de doo doo doo doo...doo...doo...ka-ching! Play my hand, hit draw...hear it again. Lose or marginally win. Start the very next hand. De doo de de doo de de de doo doo de de de doo doo doo doo...doo...doo...ka-ching! Three multipliers in a row and this one was 5X. Hold my hand, mildly excited it was three Jacks, hit draw. De doo de de doo de de de doo doo de de de doo doo doo doo...doo...doo...ka-ching! Four multipliers in a row with another 5X to make 10X total. Then the very next card revealed is the last Jack!



Played for another hour of two mostly losing a bit, ended up losing $10 at the Roadhouse. -$30 for the day. Was one of the last 10 people in the casino at about 4 am. On the way out, hand her the keys because I woke up still drunk. Also peek at the Horseshoe temp poker room which had just moved to the Roadhouse early that morning right after I went to bed. Not bad for a temp room. They said that they hoped to have the remodel done by December. Had that Sam's Town buffet, pretty good, and had about 4 Mt. Dews, which help sober me up a little and I leave the cottonfields with a big smile on my face.
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10-16-2013 , 10:12 PM
Nice report tringlomane!

You didn't hit any life-changing jackpots, but you're clearly an expert at having casino fun on a budget.

The Sam's Town slot club is listed in vpfree2 as 0.2% for video poker, but I assume there was a "catch" to the 10X multiplier promotion. They probably imposed a restrictive point limit.

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Originally Posted by xpc899
I enjoy viewing jackpot photos, but sometimes the pay schedules startle me.
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Originally Posted by tringlomane
So do I. Also what is disturbing is on the last two photos, the machine locked up on wins < $1200.
I think those jackpots occurred on a gambling boat operating from the southeast coast. One of the "jackpots" was only 125 coins. I wonder if he tipped for that, lol.
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10-16-2013 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Canitallbesosimple


I had to redeem myself with short play royal pic...you never look at 4 5's playing quarters the same after hits like this...kinda bums me out tbh..
That's understandable. No one comes to congratulate you for hitting quads on the quarter machines.

But the w2g lockup for the 250-coin jackpot would annoy me. If I wanted to interact with casino employees, I would play table games.

Anyway, congratulations on the hits. Those are some pretty pictures.
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10-16-2013 , 11:08 PM
Guys..unless I am missimg something..the 1200 hit is playing a 5 dollar machine..for 6 k..those are 25 dollar a wap hits...the one aaaa is for 4k..I think you think those are nickles?? In the state I play in anything over 1200 is a hand pay, and uncle sam gets his chance to get his dollars..

1k on a 4k hit
pretty sure it was 1.5 k on the 6...
and on that prog. royal, I pay 1700..which as really gross!

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10-16-2013 , 11:21 PM
Anything $1200 or over is taxable and is issued a W2G. I think that is everywhere in the US.

Some casino's will make their $5 VP pay $1195 for 4oaK which is horrible... I'd rather the $1250 win...

Some casino's will hand pay a $1000 pay out but not issue any paperwork... I think this is annoying...
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10-16-2013 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xpc899
Nice report tringlomane!

You didn't hit any life-changing jackpots, but you're clearly an expert at having casino fun on a budget.

The Sam's Town slot club is listed in vpfree2 as 0.2% for video poker, but I assume there was a "catch" to the 10X multiplier promotion. They probably imposed a restrictive point limit.
Thanks! Yep, very restrictive. 100 base points...for 1000 slot points (worth $1 lol). I played like a snail and still got it done quick. Didn't take my g/f long either. But better than no multiplier.

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Originally Posted by Canitallbesosimple
Guys..unless I am missimg something..the 1200 hit is playing a 5 dollar machine..for 6 k..those are 25 dollar a wap hits...the one aaaa is for 4k..I think you think those are nickles?? In the state I play in anything over 1200 is a hand pay, and uncle sam gets his chance to get his dollars..
I think of them as $5 machines, which are $25 per hand for max bets. I think of a nickel machine as machines that have max bets of 25 cents. And as suited junk said (good to see you again, btw!), any win $1200 or over is taxed nationwide! And I agree with xpc, I would find any quad triggering a W2G a bit annoying.
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10-16-2013 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Canitallbesosimple
Guys..unless I am missimg something..the 1200 hit is playing a 5 dollar machine..for 6 k..those are 25 dollar a wap hits...the one aaaa is for 4k..I think you think those are nickles?? In the state I play in anything over 1200 is a hand pay, and uncle sam gets his chance to get his dollars..

1k on a 4k hit
pretty sure it was 1.5 k on the 6...
and on that prog. royal, I pay 1700..which as really gross!
I am assuming that you are having these amounts withheld voluntarily for federal taxes? If so, you do realize that you will receive some of these monies back by using losses to offset the wins?

If you are new to vp and play in one of the states in the US that doesn't allow you to offset gambling wins with gamblings losses, I'd suggest that you stop playing until you have a chance to evaluate exactly what your tax liability will be--even if you have a losing year. You may be in for a very unpleasant experience ahead regardless of your net results playing vp.

I am also puzzled by your playing single-line denoms from 25c to $5. That doesn't make much sense to me. Neither does playing at the slowest selectable speed of the machine. In any event, good luck going forward.
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10-16-2013 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SuitedJunk
Anything $1200 or over is taxable and is issued a W2G. I think that is everywhere in the US.

Some casino's will make their $5 VP pay $1195 for 4oaK which is horrible... I'd rather the $1250 win...

Some casino's will hand pay a $1000 pay out but not issue any paperwork... I think this is annoying...
luckily for me I am good on the 1k deal...it's super annoying...I have 13 w2g's this year, the casino I play in offers jackpot drawings, exclusive for jackpot winners in which I have 13 entries, just bs to get me going back in to spew..I try and offset my winnings by saving losing scratch offs etc..

filing long form, after paying state, my federal return should be ok...
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10-16-2013 , 11:40 PM
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(good to see you again, btw!)
Hi hi!

I've taken a bit of a break from the forums...

Had some nice hits this past week... Royal Aces Bonus 4A's held nothing on the deal and drew AAAA!
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10-16-2013 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Canitallbesosimple
Guys..unless I am missimg something..the 1200 hit is playing a 5 dollar machine..for 6 k..those are 25 dollar a wap hits...the one aaaa is for 4k..I think you think those are nickles??
Thanks, I think I understood.

As SuitedJunk mentioned, a W2G is issued for any $1,200 hit or higher, which can occur very routinely at high denominations. I was just ranting about the ridiculous tax code. (I don't actually play at those levels.)
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10-17-2013 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by xpc899
Thanks, I think I understood.

As SuitedJunk mentioned, a W2G is issued for any $1,200 hit or higher, which can occur very routinely at high denominations. I was just ranting about the ridiculous tax code. (I don't actually play at those levels.)
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10-17-2013 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
I am assuming that you are having these amounts withheld voluntarily for federal taxes? If so, you do realize that you will receive some of these monies back by using losses to offset the wins?

If you are new to vp and play in one of the states in the US that doesn't allow you to offset gambling wins with gamblings losses, I'd suggest that you stop playing until you have a chance to evaluate exactly what your tax liability will be--even if you have a losing year. You may be in for a very unpleasant experience ahead regardless of your net results playing vp.

I am also puzzled by your playing single-line denoms from 25c to $5. That doesn't make much sense to me. Neither does playing at the slowest selectable speed of the machine. In any event, good luck going forward.
I personally like to play on either the slow speed or the middle speed. I like to see the cards flip over. It also gets me to spend a little more time in the casino since it takes longer to go broke. Now if I were actually playing vps over 97% then maybe I would feel differently.
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10-17-2013 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SuitedJunk
Hi hi!

I've taken a bit of a break from the forums...

Had some nice hits this past week... Royal Aces Bonus 4A's held nothing on the deal and drew AAAA!
Yeah, I haven't logged in as much recently either. Not nearly into live poker as much anymore.

And awesome hit! And I thought the 4 Aces I drew this past weekend were hard enough...lol That game would be too much for me though. I think a half a royal on 4 Aces is swingy enough...

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Originally Posted by Barbiaux
I personally like to play on either the slow speed or the middle speed. I like to see the cards flip over. It also gets me to spend a little more time in the casino since it takes longer to go broke. Now if I were actually playing vps over 97% then maybe I would feel differently.
Yeah, I am the same way usually. If the game was profitable for me to speed up with, then I might change my mind.
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10-17-2013 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
I am assuming that you are having these amounts withheld voluntarily for federal taxes? If so, you do realize that you will receive some of these monies back by using losses to offset the wins?

If you are new to vp and play in one of the states in the US that doesn't allow you to offset gambling wins with gamblings losses, I'd suggest that you stop playing until you have a chance to evaluate exactly what your tax liability will be--even if you have a losing year. You may be in for a very unpleasant experience ahead regardless of your net results playing vp.

I am also puzzled by your playing single-line denoms from 25c to $5. That doesn't make much sense to me. Neither does playing at the slowest selectable speed of the machine. In any event, good luck going forward.
Luckily for me I can offset, so no worries there. Sometimes when I go to the casino with friends or family that don't play high I like to sit and bs with them. In most cases I will turn it down a notch, both with bet size and speed. I have made mistakes in the past discussing hands and draws with friends next to me on their machine, and I just find it helps me to not screw up. It is just me.

As far as my range, I don't really know what to say, I have won big and taken shots at the 5 DDB and white hot aces. As you can see it has worked out, SOMETIMES, but I have lost taking shots too. I have been playing at the same place for along time, and I will go back to certain machines I have good luck on..try different stuff. I am by no means some super baller, who is above playing quarters..I LOVE all forms of video poker! And on any given trip to play anything at anytime can happen!!
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10-18-2013 , 11:06 PM
First live $5 coin.

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10-19-2013 , 08:36 AM
that's what I dream about one day..a royal on a $5+ machine...how much were you in for b4 that hit?
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10-19-2013 , 09:42 AM
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that's what I dream about one day..a royal on a $5+ machine...how much were you in for b4 that hit?
$1500
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10-19-2013 , 10:26 PM
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$1500
Nice Nice Nice!!!

How did you put your money in when you started? When I play usually play 200 dollar bullets, if that make sense...It's nuts to watch people load money on high limit, it literally makes hundred dollar bills seem like nothing.
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10-20-2013 , 08:00 PM
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First live $5 coin.
Nice hit! I miss playing that game...Tunica yanked it out in April for quarters. Definitely can't afford $5 level.
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10-21-2013 , 02:37 AM
So in one of my previous post I mentioned how I took a shot at dollars(being a quarter player on a good run), took some wins and losses playing $1 nsud, 10/7dbp, and 9/6 job, but mostly losses. I was also not used to those kind of swings on dollars
And felt uncomfortable...well, more to the story.
I ran a nice 800 dollar win hitting a rf on a 5ply dbp quarter game, so decided to go to a bank of dollar full point 9/6 job and take another shot at dollar play. Glad I did. Two royals, one saving two high suited cards and one dealt about 10 min later. Very sick. $8k a lot of money for this quarter boy. Never had two royals in a session before.
Despite losses, hit definitely put me in the plus column.
Moral of the story I think is it pays to take the shots once in a while...though admittedly, I'm still most comfortable at the quarter play.
Dancer (vp expert) recommended the 3-5 royal bankroll for single line. I'm there, but not comfortable putting it all at risk... but do have a job so I have a "replenishing" bankroll.
I still like the suggestion somebody gave me for single line...$250 for quarters, $500 for .50c, and $1000 for dollars...although it seems the most I can stomache right now for dollars is $500 on 9/6 job.
P.s. Still avoiding ddb and tdb, but still bittersweet hitting aces,2s,3s, and 4's with a kicker on job. But I added up my two pair hits one time on a long session and added up to an aces w/kicker hit on ddb. So all in perspective I guess.
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10-21-2013 , 03:59 PM
Congrats on the 2 royals. I started taking shots as well. My new system is, I stick $100 in plus my free play. As long as my crrdits are between 1 and 2 hundred I play 50 cents. Anything over $200 I play dollars. Once I get below 100 I drop to quarters. It may not be optimal but I like being able to play some handa at bettet than quarters. Since my gambling budget is very small it would be a huge deal for me to hit a royal at 50 or 1.00.
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10-22-2013 , 12:55 AM
Can anyone rec some great spots in vegas to play cheapo vp? I know some casinos have better payouts than others. Would also like to play the multihand vp game I always see pix of like 3 rf hands gotten in 1 pull. I am very unfamiliar with what that game is even called though.
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10-22-2013 , 08:26 AM
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Can anyone rec some great spots in vegas to play cheapo vp? I know some casinos have better payouts than others. Would also like to play the multihand vp game I always see pix of like 3 rf hands gotten in 1 pull. I am very unfamiliar with what that game is even called though.
To find the best cheapo games, just scroll through the Las Vegas casino page on vpfree2. Several Station casinos (and both Fiestas) offer full-pay deuces (100.76%) for nickels. Sam's Town has it for 10-coin nickels, with better comps.

Multihand machines are named according to the maximum number of hands available. IGT offers 3-play, 5-play, 10, 25, 50 or 100. At the cheapo levels, the best is the Palms, which has 50-play Jacks or Better full-pay (99.54%) for pennies or 2-cents, with good promotions and comps. They're down to only 3 such machines, so you may have trouble getting a seat.

South Point has four 50-play machines with the same game for nickels.

Silverton has two 100-play machines with Bonus Poker (99.17%) beginning at nickels.

The Trop has the same game for 50- or 100-play, at the nickel level or higher. They don't comp very well as far as I know.

Rampart has a bank of eight 10-play machines with several full-pay options as low as nickels.
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10-22-2013 , 09:45 AM
I haven't been to Sams town in about 6months..but I believe the only fpdw machines they have there are 25c only. I dont think the 10 coin in nickel machines are full pay.
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