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08-12-2012, 02:56 PM   #436
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 Originally Posted by ICallHimGamblor Yes. Almost every time.
When it's a full pay machine, definitely.

And according to vpfree2, Barbiaux, it looks like 9/6 is only at quarters or higher.

Also vpfree2 says that all other Caesars properties in AC have 9/6 JoB for just 5 quarters a hand (color me surprised), so keep that in mind for future visits.

 08-12-2012, 04:25 PM #437 old hand   Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,301 I was trying to look at that site on my phone but my internet was bot cooperating next time i will plan it better
 08-13-2012, 01:42 AM #438 old hand     Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: OMGMGRPANIC!!!!!1 STFU. Posts: 1,987 Re: Thread about video poker Is there a site to calculate what progressive effect is on 9/4 or 8/5 or similar?
 08-13-2012, 01:47 AM #439 old hand     Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: OMGMGRPANIC!!!!!1 STFU. Posts: 1,987 Re: Thread about video poker Also, Android apps - any yet? I have a new, Android-running toy. Curiously, nobody has heard of the Google Nexus 7 somehow?
08-13-2012, 04:46 PM   #440
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 Originally Posted by hime Is there a site to calculate what progressive effect is on 9/4 or 8/5 or similar?
What's 9/4?

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-...gy/calculator/

This will calculate the return of the game AND give you the strategy for it.

But remember that inputs for this are in 1 credit wagers. So if a quarter progressive is at \$1400, then the input for the royal flush needs to be \$1400 x 4/5 = 1120 for 1.

As an example, here are some expected progressive returns for a \$1400 jackpot (excluding taxes) based on game type:

9/6 JoB: 100.41%
9/5 JoB: 99.30%
8/5 Bonus: 100.01%
9/6 DDB: 99.86%
9/5 DDB: 98.74%

If you just want to more quickly know the return, use this:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/

This enters payout as 5-credit wagers as a default. So \$1400 = 5600 quarters

08-16-2012, 01:05 AM   #441
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 Originally Posted by tringlomane What's 9/4?
A typo that I have no idea how I made since I thought I was typing carefully...

 08-16-2012, 10:56 AM #442 adept   Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,187 Re: Thread about video poker Obv not in a casino, and I don't think open to Americans, but if you can access Betfair you can play zero JoB (i.e. with no house edge).
 08-16-2012, 11:28 PM #443 veteran   Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,264 Re: Thread about video poker 976 for 1 for the Royal...lol And the return is 100.0000% with perfect play, wow. And you can apparently play this for as cheap as £1 too.
 08-17-2012, 01:33 AM #444 stranger   Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 5 Re: Thread about video poker Just joined today and obv haven't read through all 30 pages of this thread so I apologize if this has already been said but full pay deuces wild is 100.76% return I play part time usually about 15-20 hours a week and I can play about 1200 hands per hour. That only comes out to \$9/hour. But you also earn points on your card which can be used for free play although on the full pay games you only earn 1/4 of the points as a regular machine. I earn a bit under \$1/hour in points. They'll also send you free play in the mail. With the amount I play I get \$200/month (\$20 ten times). Overall you can't make a living but its a nice side income. Beware though, even on full pay machines you can go through some horrible downswings. My worst one to date was \$3000 but overall I'm up \$4000 since I started keeping track in April. Good luck at the machines!
08-17-2012, 04:00 AM   #445
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 Originally Posted by Lvkid7 Just joined today and obv haven't read through all 30 pages of this thread so I apologize if this has already been said but full pay deuces wild is 100.76% return I play part time usually about 15-20 hours a week and I can play about 1200 hands per hour. That only comes out to \$9/hour. But you also earn points on your card which can be used for free play although on the full pay games you only earn 1/4 of the points as a regular machine. I earn a bit under \$1/hour in points. They'll also send you free play in the mail. With the amount I play I get \$200/month (\$20 ten times). Overall you can't make a living but its a nice side income. Beware though, even on full pay machines you can go through some horrible downswings. My worst one to date was \$3000 but overall I'm up \$4000 since I started keeping track in April. Good luck at the machines!
I thought most of the FPDW machines in vegas were programmed to be slow or the old coin dropper slow machines. Where are you playing to get 1200 hands an hour?

08-17-2012, 04:10 AM   #446
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 Originally Posted by random_person I thought most of the FPDW machines in vegas were programmed to be slow or the old coin dropper slow machines. Where are you playing to get 1200 hands an hour?

Station casinos. I play at green valley ranch. Cards get dealt at a pretty good speed but at red rock you can manually adjust the speed to go even faster. I find I make a few more mistakes if I try to go any faster though. At 1200 hands per hour I usually catch myself making 1-2 mistakes per hour usually as I'm hitting the draw button.

08-17-2012, 08:27 AM   #447
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 Originally Posted by Lvkid7 Just joined today and obv haven't read through all 30 pages of this thread so I apologize if this has already been said but full pay deuces wild is 100.76% return I play part time usually about 15-20 hours a week and I can play about 1200 hands per hour. That only comes out to \$9/hour. But you also earn points on your card which can be used for free play although on the full pay games you only earn 1/4 of the points as a regular machine. I earn a bit under \$1/hour in points. They'll also send you free play in the mail. With the amount I play I get \$200/month (\$20 ten times).
15-20 hours a week at \$9/hr on FPDW? what denomination are you playing?

i'm in vegas several times a year, and frequent the green valley and palace station high-limit rooms. so far, i'm up about 8k playing \$1/coin bonus poker quick-quads with the wheel topper.

08-17-2012, 09:29 AM   #448
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 Originally Posted by darkcube 15-20 hours a week at \$9/hr on FPDW? what denomination are you playing? i'm in vegas several times a year, and frequent the green valley and palace station high-limit rooms. so far, i'm up about 8k playing \$1/coin bonus poker quick-quads with the wheel topper.
I play quarters. That's as high as you'll find fpdw. They have 50 cent and dollar db and ddb but they're only 100.1% so quarter fpdw is higher return per hand. Plus I don't have the proper bankroll to play higher denomination anyway. Fpdw you need \$13k for a 99.97 chance to avoid going bust. I imagine dollar ddb is probably 5 or 6 times higher than that.

08-17-2012, 04:23 PM   #449
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 Originally Posted by darkcube 15-20 hours a week at \$9/hr on FPDW? what denomination are you playing? i'm in vegas several times a year, and frequent the green valley and palace station high-limit rooms. so far, i'm up about 8k playing \$1/coin bonus poker quick-quads with the wheel topper.
Oh the difference between EV and realization.

9/hr is a theoretical, which is the correct way to think about it.

 08-17-2012, 05:00 PM #450 veteran   Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,264 Re: Thread about video poker Also it sounds like darkcube is playing a -EV game before comps (unless the pay table is more generous than I expect). Also quick quads is a more difficult strategy than FPDW. Still nice to be up though.

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