Some scenarios I ran into while playing, not necessarily first hand.

1- If a dealer 'helps' out a player (ex. against dealer 6, some guy is not paying attn to his 13 and hits, dealer says "are you sure you want to hit with my 6?), but same dealer fails to do so later on (with similar situation), can floor be called upon to rectify situation?

2- Player has hijack (last seat) and has 6 against dealer 6 showing and hits to an 11. Player hits and at least 2 players at the table tell him to stay so dealer can take bust card (Actual quote: "If he takes the 10 everyone wins and not just you."). Hijack correct play or do the 2 others have a point?

Thanks.

1. Just about anything can happen and you certainly can call the floor. Is there a situation that needs to be, should be, or virtually ever will be rectified, no. The dealer went above and beyond in one case and didn't in the other. I'm sure you can see how exposed they would be if they made this policy (hint, you should almost always keep giving the hit sign until you bust). You wouldn't seek restitution from a civilian who once saved a man from a burning building but did not manage to do so in all other cases, would you?

2. The two others have a point if they are doing something the house would rather they not do (and/or may be illegal), such as finding a way to identify the next card before it comes. Otherwise, obviously they don't.

There are some things similar to #1 that sometimes get changed though. One is if a dealer mis-identifies your hand. Many dealers call out a player's total after every card and if they call a wrong total that would logically effect a decision sometimes it gets reversed. I've seen this happen when a 21 got called a 12, but that's somewhat unique as it's usually against the rules to hit a 21. I imagine if a dealer verbally called 17, 16 and a player hit to a bust there'd be a chance, though not likely an obligation, of getting some help from the floor. Personally, I think it's a small enough chance to where I wouldn't recommend you take the free-roll.

A situation like #1 where no false information is given and the dealer acts on a legitimate signal by the player I just can't see. Somebody else might give better insight on standard dealer training/procedure in that spot, and fwiw I know most will ask in spots like that, but even if it is procedure at a place for dealers to do something like that it's not going to extend to the policy I think you want. Also, many players become offended by dealers who question their play and/or feel it is bad luck to the point where I really doubt it's procedure and is more going above and beyond.

1, I doubt the floor would rescue you from a bad decision to hit 13 against a 6 unless you are a reg who is known to always play basic strategy. Late one night the other night I had a brain fart and hit hard 21, the dealer called the floor who told her to take back the bust card! This happened at Green Valley Ranch.

2. Statistically the player at 3rd base doesn't affect the other players even if he misplays the hand. But I would still, however irrationally, become tilted at a ploppy who misplayed the hand and "took the dealer's bust card."

lol at the players telling you 'not to take the dealers bust card'.

****ing idiots, they cant see the deck and you should be making the most +ev play possible. Obviously hitting on 11 against a 6 is so ****ing unbelievably +EV.

For all the other players know, you could take the bust card and then the dealer could hit to make 21.

Really annoys me when people go on about BJ being a team game.

That's pretty standard. If you look at the rules for most blackjack games they say you aren't allowed to hit on 21.

Yep. It's a great way to drive folks to play those video BJ games, where you never know when the shoe turns over. More and more of these = less live dealers.

I would never stay on 11, regardless of what the table wants me to do. That is ridiculous. What if I catch a 5 and the dealer turns over 16 and busts? Then we all win instead of all losing. The dealer could also turn over 11 and catch 21 with my card and beat us all if I stay on 11.

I've had people get pissy about stuff like that but they are the same people that get pissed when you split 9's against a 6. "How can you split 18 vs a 6? You screwed us all!" Worry about your own money and play correctly. Any change from basic strategy without a good reason adds to the house advantage. The guy next to you calling you selfish is not a good reason.

Yeah I LOVE when people get mad at you for doing something that they think is wrong. I then pull out the strat card and show them they do not know what they are talking about. I then later show them every one of their mistakes until they leave.

I will just ask for my stake as a "fee" for standing.

cards are all the same face down

when people complain about me doing something that will (supposedly) influence them negatively I tell them that is exactly why I am doing it - in order to make them lose.

I saw a lady end up with probably her case couple thousand in life on the lay-out. She'd even went to the cash machine during the hand. Ended up with a number of strong hands vs a dealer bust card and 3rd base wanted to split paint with I think a $10 wager. She offered to pay him $50 to stand. He declined. Dealer got there.

That was a situation I felt bad about. The, "hey don't split your 9's because I don't want you to" stuff is obviously just funny though.

1. Rectify what?

2. No, they do not have a point.

I was the person at 3rd base on scenario 2. We had been about 2/3 through the deck and it had been a brutal one so hence why the stupidity ensued. I ignored all of them and took a 9 for 20. Dealer takes a 3 and the complaining continued, so much so that it kind of tilted me and I walked away from the table for a few minutes.

Later on, the dealer on that hand, who was a woman was on her break and I was walking around the casino. She came by and told me, "Hon, don't listen to what anyone else says, play your own game. If you stayed on that 11, I would've lost all respect for you."

lol at telling you to stay on 11. guarantee none of them would stay if that was their hand.

I wouldn't guarantee it. Have seen a number of people voluntarily (meaning they weren't drunk) stand on un-bustable hands (sometimes even things like hard 4's...yes, like a two and a two) vs dealer bust cards to "not take their bust card". These players will particularly do this if other people have hit and gotten small cards figuring "a big card is coming".

It's not exactly common but I've seen it in plenty of different cities and plenty of different games (including some games with rather large minimum bets) not just from some degen regular at a joint I hit up. Kind of like the test questions where "always" or "never" have a very decent chance of being wrong it's a bad idea to guarantee against somebody out there doing something really silly in an "Other Gambling Game".

Haven't you ever just walked up to a craps table on the come-out roll and called a $25 hopping hard ten?

Come on people ... live a little.

hehe is that in homage to what i witnessed?

Just a signature bet.

I make it whenever I have a hunch passing a craps table and the stick calls a come-out roll. It might be the other way around -- but I still only bet it on hunches.

The most beautiful thing in craps is making that one-time hopping hard 10 bet (or whatever) -- you usually never ever bet the sucker bets in the center -- and it hits. The only thing that beats it is when you make it a two-way bet, and it hits, and you get that awestruck -- OMG the guy is ****in' psychic -- look from the dealers.

Yes. Players who don't understand that side on the games don't understand the players.

I get the "OMG the guy is ****in' psychic" reaction -- in my calculations -- about in proportion to probability (but more often than predicted, go figure) ...

Games like craps, roulette, baccarat, Pai Gow, etc. I play to f*ck with the minds of both players and host -- others I'm just screwing with the host.

It's fun.

my best randomass bet was at resorts east chicago in indiana. this was about 6yrs ago and i was leaving for arizona the next day. i had $55 in chips in my hand and the line at the cage was really long. i didnt feel like waiting in line and turned around and saw a 3card poker table right there in front of me. i plunk the $55 down on pairplus and get dealt 999.

Selective memory? Nah. It happens too often

certainly i believe you. ive seen some people do some totally bat**** insane things but in all of my years of play i'm not sure ive ever seen anyone stay on 11. usually the dumb plays are stay on soft w/e - 15,16,17 etc. usually these are the people in a hand held game whom the dealer has to explain how to hit/stay etc for 5 minutes and they still dont understand.