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BJ variation: surrender against Ace BJ variation: surrender against Ace

07-07-2008 , 12:07 PM
Hi,

so we have this weird BJ mod at cheap local casino for a few years now, wich is basicaly totaly standard euro ruleset except that you can surrender against ace...
I wonder what would real edge be (asuming no counting, they cutoff 40% deck, not that much to count anyway). Any ideas on what to surrender against ace?
18? 12? 13? 8? 7?

6 decks
DAS (split up to 4 times, double any two)
surender against any dealer card (incl. ace)
dealer stops at soft 17
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07-07-2008 , 07:10 PM
Surrender 5 to 7 and 12 to 17 (except 5,5).
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07-08-2008 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SheetWise
Surrender 5 to 7 and 12 to 17 (except 5,5).
I really don't know where I came up with "except 5,5" -- but I'm going to have another drink anyways ...
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07-09-2008 , 10:20 AM
Are you talking about Early Surrender? If so thats a nice rule in the players favour but won't give you a positive edge to just flat bet without counting.
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07-09-2008 , 10:59 AM
yes early surrender.
Typical 6 deck euro ruleset has an house edge around 0.17 to 0.24% playing perfect basic strategy.
If this rule gives at least 0.2% additional edge (wich i guess it does), then it should become positive EV game.
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07-09-2008 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Maso777
Are you talking about Early Surrender?
How could you have late surrender with European rules?
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07-09-2008 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SheetWise
How could you have late surrender with European rules?
I don't know anything at all about European rules. Disregard my post above if it doesn't make sense.
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07-10-2008 , 11:46 PM
According to http://www.card-counting.com/blackja...calculator.htm

You'll have a 0.121% edge in this game with basic strategy.
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