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09-07-2011 , 10:53 AM

#126

__w__

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Both the big dogs are still on play just fyi

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09-07-2011 , 04:02 PM

#127

THAKID

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Just seems like it's to easy for them to be doing something sketchy

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09-07-2011 , 06:55 PM

#128

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Originally Posted by __w__

Both the big dogs are still on play just fyi

the prizes being claimed have slowed to barely a trickle

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09-10-2011 , 06:29 PM

#129

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lol, msufan I stumbled on your thread at that msu forum. It was almost soul-destroying how stupid people are. I don't even know why you'd respond to them.

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09-10-2011 , 10:58 PM

#130

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Originally Posted by cswolf

lol, msufan I stumbled on your thread at that msu forum. It was almost soul-destroying how stupid people are. I don't even know why you'd respond to them.

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09-15-2011 , 02:19 AM

#131

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I know this has been said already, but even though the other games have paid out their top prizes does not mean a giant payout is not by far the most likely to be withheld for a certain period of time. So you can't just assume there's a fair chance that it's still there.

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09-18-2011 , 02:47 PM

#132

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A +EV lottery, yea ok.

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09-18-2011 , 03:17 PM

#133

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Originally Posted by cswolf

lol, msufan I stumbled on your thread at that msu forum. It was almost soul-destroying how stupid people are. I don't even know why you'd respond to them.

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Originally Posted by Ben12345

A +EV lottery, yea ok.

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09-26-2011 , 04:42 PM

#134

cswolf

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I threw together a quick spreadsheet and been checking this every week or so and it seems like the classic black was just a fluke. But I do know that for whatever reason a lot of those tickets were sent back because they weren't selling that well in stores.

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09-27-2011 , 02:24 AM

#135

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Originally Posted by cswolf

Interest has faded in this possible advantage play -- but I still find it interesting, and thank you for the update. If you continue to monitor the game, I look forward to your findings -- please post. State lottery games are a bit of a hobby to me. They're so badly regulated and run that they should be criminal per se -- and are vulnerable on those premises alone. All information helps. Thanks.

P.S. Please don't confuse this post with some of my previous posts which were based upon the assumption that what was contracted was actually delivered.

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02-14-2012 , 04:16 AM

#136

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where exactly are you finding number of tickets left? are we going by the probability of winning according to the site? any word on how accurate that number is?

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02-14-2012 , 04:17 AM

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i'm teaching myself to program and i figured i'd use this as an exercise. if anyone wants to help, i'd appreciate it.

oh and sheets, i just realized i never responded to your PMs about ACism. sorry, i've been ridiculously busy lately. you'd be proud, though!

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02-14-2012 , 04:32 PM

#138

BK1248

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So there are still 2 500k tickets for classic black?

Interesting thread

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02-14-2012 , 05:51 PM

#139

cswolf

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I don't feel like digging up the link again but yeah when I looked at this I just looked at their "chance of winning" number which was like 2.74 times by amount of prizes or whatever.

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02-14-2012 , 09:40 PM

#140

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So there are still 2 500k tickets for classic black?

Interesting thread

I'm not gonna look at the sheet, but just fyi classic black should have been pulled from the shelves by now, regardless of whether the winners have been turned in or not.

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02-14-2012 , 10:42 PM

#141

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Where exactly are you finding number of tickets left?

This is information that has the shelf life of fish -- and often comes in several months old.

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oh and sheets, i just realized i never responded to your PMs about ACism. sorry, i've been ridiculously busy lately. you'd be proud, though!

No worry -- the truth will prevail

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02-15-2012 , 01:05 AM

#142

jmark

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What language? We have a number of programmers that can help out I'd think.

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02-15-2012 , 03:18 PM

#143

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where exactly are you finding number of tickets left?

http://milottery.state.mi.us/msl-ig-trigps.php

(found by googling "michigan lottery remaining" which autocompleted to "michigan lottery remaining prizes")

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02-15-2012 , 03:24 PM

#144

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C++

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02-15-2012 , 06:58 PM

#145

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C++

A proprietary version of a language that was designed to be cross platform -- like writing in asp or aspx (ugly). Invest your in open source languages -- they evolve faster and have better support. You'll never regret it (unless you're looking for a job).

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02-15-2012 , 08:35 PM

#146

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are you thinking of C#? C++ isn't proprietary and it's cross-platform.

I know a bit of python, but that doesn't really help with stuff like simulating games etc.

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02-15-2012 , 09:10 PM

#147

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Originally Posted by Fubster

are you thinking of C#? C++ isn't proprietary and it's cross-platform.

I know a bit of python, but that doesn't really help with stuff like simulating games etc.

C++ is cross platform? I gave up on it 20 years ago because it was a proprietary variant of C -- same reason I gave up all dot-net crap.

Are you saying they made all their libraries open?

May be true -- but once bit, twice shy.

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02-16-2012 , 03:35 PM

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Neil S

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C++ was invented at Bell Labs by Bjarne Stroustrup as C with Classes and became C++ in the early 80s. It was never a proprietary thing.

C# yes. Java... sometimes. C++ no.

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02-16-2012 , 05:07 PM

#149

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Originally Posted by Neil S

C++ was invented at Bell Labs by Bjarne Stroustrup as C with Classes and became C++ in the early 80s. It was never a proprietary thing.

C# yes. Java... sometimes. C++ no.

Thanks -- just read a bit more. I stuck with Microsoft products for too many years, and started moving away from them about 20 years ago. The "version" of Microsoft C++ I first played with was definitely not "portable" -- and I didn't want to invest any more time in "Microsoft specific" solutions. I've worked with it off and on -- think I need to revisit it. Do you have a favorite GUI?