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07-24-2008 , 01:26 PM
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There are different pay schedules available. I assume they are all from Shufflemaster.

9 = 30x
8 = 10x
7 = 6x
6 = 4x
5 = 2x
4 = 1x
house edge 2.65%

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9 = 20x
8 = 10x
7 = 7x
6 = 4x
5 = 3x
4 = 1x
house edge 1.21%
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07-24-2008 , 07:28 PM
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There are several theories as to why the casino botched this one.

1. This was done purposely to drive business/drop. L'Auberge in Lake Charles
is dominating the baccarat in this market. Now it is even more pronounced as Texas gamblers must drive another 50+ miles past L'Auberge and the Isle of Capri to get to Coushatta. On my trips to get cash back I have witnessed $5 minimum baccarat tables. L'Auberge regularly runs 6 or 7 FIFTY dollar minimum games on swing shift.

2. The layouts have the "Shufflemaster" logo on them with a manufactured by "EGC(?)". Could Coushatta have requested this layout without consulting Shufflemaster on the math? I know for a fact that Shufflemaster advised management not to revert to their original pay schedule. So at some point they wised up and brought in experts.

3. Or they knew the math and did not think it could/would be exploited?

Mike, this is you I'm assuming...nice job. I heard about this and ran the numbers, I couldn't believe what Coushatta was doing. If I had the bankroll and time I would have gotten in on it too. After they went back to the original paytable I asked someone in upper management about it, it was a combination of #1 and #3. L'Auberge has such a stranglehold on the Asian games market they were willing to try anything. They thought they could gain ground in market share, increasing drop in MB and picking up some in the rest of the casino. Plus they really didn't think anyone would figure it out. In the end they were taking a beating (hold % plus figuring in comps, coupons, other reinvestment) and they still hadn't really captured any more market share.
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06-26-2011 , 10:50 PM
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It's still a game of luck. There are days when you're lucky and days when you're not. I'm still discovering new ways or strategies.
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06-27-2011 , 01:11 PM
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It's still a game of luck. There are days when you're lucky and days when you're not. I'm still discovering new ways or strategies.
A new way to be lucky? A new strategy to figure out which day you will lucky?

also - what's with all the new posters bumping 3-4 year old threads recently?
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06-27-2011 , 01:34 PM
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OP, even with the drop in percentage what about when you figure in all the cash back, comps and other goodies you get for free. This may make up the difference and still make it a playable game.
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06-27-2011 , 05:06 PM
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OP, even with the drop in percentage what about when you figure in all the cash back, comps and other goodies you get for free. This may make up the difference and still make it a playable game.
op's last post was in July 2008. I don't think he's gonna get your message.
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06-28-2011 , 12:09 PM
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op's last post was in July 2008. I don't think he's gonna get your message.
And oh boy is he going to be pissed.
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06-28-2011 , 12:54 PM
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How many casinos still have this situation described in OP?
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06-28-2011 , 01:43 PM
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How many casinos still have this situation described in OP?
This sounds like a fluke mistake. But if people here do know of casinos where this exists, they probably aren't telling.
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07-04-2011 , 01:14 AM
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lol, if u truly won all that money... why didnt you keep ur mouth shut? u shouldnt be telling and talking to the dealers and staff about it god, its like u wanted them to find out and then change the odds around... but deep down it prob makes u happy so u can try to angle a different type of game , because if u cared about money youd still be doing it. but your thrill is just the rush to beat the casino.!
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07-04-2011 , 10:21 AM
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Sadly, just last week, the table changed to 4X on a difference of 6-7, making the game unplayable.
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lol, if u truly won all that money... why didnt you keep ur mouth shut? u shouldnt be telling and talking to the dealers and staff about it god, its like u wanted them to find out and then change the odds around... but deep down it prob makes u happy so u can try to angle a different type of game , because if u cared about money youd still be doing it. but your thrill is just the rush to beat the casino.!
1. his last post was in 2008, he can't hear you.

2. He posted this after the casino changed the policy and there was no longer any money to be won.
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07-04-2011 , 03:32 PM
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hahahahaahhahahaaahahahahahahahaahaha I think I missed that part. I read this thread as it was a current topic
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