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Old 10-23-2009, 06:31 PM   #76
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Re: craps---should i place bets or play the come

That's a different definition of hedging from the one I'm used to then. Less bets doesn't lower your variance. I can get a variance of 0 by never betting. I can get a very high variance by placing the hard 6.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:34 PM   #77
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All my Borgata/LV trips since 2005.

The point wasn't that I'm zomg rish! from playing quarters. Just that it's amazingly positive for an -ev game.

I am dreading the downswing.
+ ~3.5 dime at Palazzo, CR, O'sheas last w/e. Up at all 3. [and at Pai Gow]

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Old 01-24-2010, 03:18 PM   #78
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Re: craps---should i place bets or play the come

After all of this information, when is it better to make a place bet vs a buy bet? How do I know which of these is most advantageous?
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:16 PM   #79
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Re: craps---should i place bets or play the come

Buy the 4 and 10, place the rest. Only placing the 6 and 8 are decent bets, though.

To figure that out, calculate the true odds of hitting the number vs what they pay and then see if a 5% commission is better to get true odds.
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:05 AM   #80
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Buy the 4 and 10, place the rest. Only placing the 6 and 8 are decent bets, though.

To figure that out, calculate the true odds of hitting the number vs what they pay and then see if a 5% commission is better to get true odds.
Also -- find out when the commission is paid.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:25 PM   #81
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3 nites of dicing at Cosmo, +750, -300, +625. ship the dime.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:42 PM   #82
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Also -- find out when the commission is paid.
$39 buy bet on the 4 and 10, $1 commission paid on the win?
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:26 PM   #83
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$39 buy bet on the 4 and 10, $1 commission paid on the win?
Should be paid on the win, yes. But I'd charge $2 on $21
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:51 AM   #84
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Re: craps---should i place bets or play the come

Since this was bumped, I hope somewhere in there somebody corrected the fallacy being put forth in the thread that taking the odds is an advantageous play. It is not. Lowering the blended house edge just to win/lose the exact same amount of money (EV stays the same), while putting a greater BR fraction at risk on the bet, is not an advantage. Taking the odds is just more action, that's all. Your expected loss is the same taking it or not taking it.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:58 AM   #85
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Since this was bumped, I hope somewhere in there somebody corrected the fallacy being put forth in the thread that taking the odds is an advantageous play. It is not. Lowering the blended house edge just to win/lose the exact same amount of money (EV stays the same), while putting a greater BR fraction at risk on the bet, is not an advantage. Taking the odds is just more action, that's all. Your expected loss is the same taking it or not taking it.
Obviously. But OTOH:

1) Taking odds gives you action at a cost of $0. If you don't want action, why are you in a casino?
2) It's the least disadvantageous bet in town.
3) You'll gain respect from discerning observers (dealers, women) who will see that you are above-average in intelligence compared to other gamblers, or at least not as stupid.
4) If there's a hot roll, you'll be one of the people who make out big.
5) Some casinos include your odds bets for purposes of calculating comps, thereby gaining you comps at a cost of $0.
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