pknuts-

http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/A2301.html

Use that formula to figure out the odds of coming out ahead on your 4 numbers. I need to get to work soon and don't have time to plug in the numbers myself right now.

But to break even on those 4 numbers, (4/36), that comes out to 111.11 out of 1000, so round to 112.

N=1000
r=each number 112 and higher (your variable)
pi= 4/38- the odds of success


I'd suggest a MS Excel where the leftmost column is numbered 0-1000. Put the formula from the webpage in the next column and the results in the 3rd column. Then sum the odds of everything where r=112 and higher.

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure my sanity is random. Except when it's not.

No comprendo senior.

I wish i would have takes a statistics class. This seems like it would be fun!!

Well, I learned that Excel can't handle a factorial higher than 170. Even though it's dividing by a huge number, it still didn't work. So for more than 170 spins, you'd have to find a different way of calculating it.

You should be able to use the formula from the link without a statistics class. As long as you know the "!" is factorial, just plug in the numbers. But you'll need a calculator that can handle huge factorial numbers.

pk_nuts
If you can post the results in a single column and the 37,38 numbers replaced with 0,00 (or attach a text file)I can put the data into STD calculator for you and calculate the results for a single number bias or for any number sector bias.

What's your formula? You should be able to change the order or simplify to make it work. I just noticed that Google equations also fails -- there has to be a workaround.

Numbers numbers numbers.... If anyone wants to see the spread sheets pm me and i can email it to you. Looks like just a bunch of noise to be honest.

great read, much better IMO than the MIT blackjack team.

How many spins are you at? Is the casino still using the same wheel with the mark you mentioned a week ago?



This one: http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/A2301.html

I haven't put much time into it, but there must be a way to edit the formula so excel doesn't use the FACT( ) formula. It's dividing by a factorial too, so it's not really using huge numbers. Perhaps there's another program that could handle plugging the original formula in, I just don't know it. It was a fun thing to try to figure out.

i have a ~1300. I think the wheel is the same. At least the bowl is Im not sure if the wheel can be removed and swithched with the other wheel.

I did notice on the other wheel that the number 4 has part of the inlay chiped off. Maybe jm tracking the wrong wheel.

Wolfram Alpha should be able to calculate whatever you need.

Haven't seen much work on that project lately -- but it will certainly solve a factorial problem ...

Just skip it altogether -- what you're reading in the first part of the equation is a standard formula for combinations ---

Combinations of n objects taken r ways = C(n,r) = n!/r!(n-r)!

In Excel, you can simplify this by using the function COMBIN(n,r)

There's also a function for Permutations PERMUT(n,r)

Permutations just removes r! from the denominator in the previous formula.

By using the functions, you can eliminate any use of factorial.

I studied online and live roulette for 3 years in a row, i did tests, millions of spins on roulette bots, you add a stradegy on the bot, hit start, and it spins in real time and does simulated results, after 3 years testing the epic result was complete failure, sure 100, mabey up to 500 spins you may have the advantage, but in the long run you will always loose, always. I tested at least 100 systems that people sell online and that i recieved from the roulette world, my millions of spin tests failed in real time test, i devoted my time to this, here is what i have to say, stick to poker people, roulette is a game to once in a while enjoy a lil entertainment and NOT a winning game, its pure luck and you will never be on top if its your priority to "make" profits from roulette.

p.s. my real time testing was extreme, meaning all my martingle systems started from $0.01 and still lost 1000's in real time simulator.

A bot that simulates a biased wheel. I guess it's possible, but I'd hate to program it.

Baised wheel still a gamble, but takes pretty much fulltime commitment for income stream, after i started playing poker i completly lost all interest in roullette and other games like blackjack also, poker is the only game where you control your money, not the casino, because as they say "the house always wins" my point is if people dont wanna commit to a advantage and have full focus doing so playing roulette and blackjack with the slight advantage then cancel the whole idea, another thing i can say, dont do this if you cant afford too loose., good luck to everyone who tries this, also look into roulette computers. This is a cheat that its legal until you get caught.

I don't play roulette but I came across a website the other day where a video was posted showing a dealer consistently hitting a section of the wheel on a home roulette wheel. About 10 consecutive spins were within a couple numbers of each other. The video did not have any editing breaks that I could detect. My question: is this something that someone can actually do or am I getting fooled by some sort of gaffed wheel / editing / etc?

fooled. variety of possible ways to do that. most likely just not showing all the videos where that didn't happen.