By "borderline" I mean that it won't be cut-and-dry in a courtroom. Card marking is a cheating behavior that is definitely not borderline. This behavior is.

If a dealer is intentionally giving up a game for tokes, it's collusion if the dealer acts with an agent who does the toking in exchange for "improved game conditions." Otherwise it's probably just plain ol' cheating at gambling.

Casino management generally has a low threshold for evidence when formulating theories of collusion, and yet I don't know any who would seriously make this charge. First of all -- in most games, generously toking the dealer is simply drawing attention to the game. Second, only an idiot conspirator would toke a dealer (who generally has to make a 100+/way split) rather than settle outside. I'm sorry, but the responsibility for dealer mistakes falls squarely on the dealer.

Oh yeah, collusion would never stick in court.

Don't lots of craps crews keep the tips within their own crew, though?

There has to be collusion, presumably.

A four-way split at best. Every store has their own policy.

Eh, I'm not a lawyer, but if you meet up with a dealer and agree to tip off 50% of your win if they alter the game to confer an advantage, that seems like collusion to me.

How did this thread go so far off the tracks? I hope none of you all are stupid enough to enter into a criminal conspiracy.

If a craps dealer makes a mistake in my favor, and it looks like he did so on purpose to hustle a toke, I might toke him -- 3 or 4 hands later. If he does it a second time, I'm going to correct him or move to another table.

Not sure how things work in the states, but I've heard about a couple of casinos in the UK that got rid of craps tables because of stuff like this happening... :/

Because some people think that if a slot machine pays off 100 coins on a cherry rather than the 2 coins listed on the pay table, the player should notify management rather than tip the waitress $5.

Do you not see how that's completely and entirely a different situation?

So you'd keep the 100 coins? Or, more accurately, not reference the pay table, assume the machine "knew" what it was doing, and not question it.

I'd pitch a tent at the machine.

So did OP get backroomed yet?

Guess you missed the part where I decided to desist simply on the off chance this would happen.

+1

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