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Old 09-23-2011, 09:06 AM   #91
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

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Haven't you read what GBV wrote? The book is virtually worthless. Meanwhile, if you hurry, you can pick up his magnificent tome at Amazon for the steep price of 0.01 USD. Only 21 copies at that price remain, so best get to steppin.
Another way to put this: My book outsold Grosjean's first edition by about thirty or forty to one (at least). Consequently many copies were printed to meet demand and there are many in circulation in the second-hand market. As is the case with any book which was professionally published and commercially successful.

Because Grosjean has a very limited audience, he has to sell the book at a huge mark-up in order to make a profit, and print/sell relatively few to create scarcity value. That's how supply-and-demand works.

Incidentally, I've sold private studies for five figures or more to teams of professional gamblers in various fields. Usually it is not a straight cash transaction but a deal where I get a small % of any profits arising from the use of techniques I've developed. Any one with information of actual value who is trying to sell to the high-roller AP niche does the same thing: you make a hell of a lot more than $250 per sale doing that.
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:13 AM   #92
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

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Another way to put this: My book outsold Grosjean's first edition by about thirty or forty to one (at least). Consequently many copies were printed to meet demand and there are many in circulation in the second-hand market. As is the case with any book which was professionally published and commercially successful.

Because Grosjean has a very limited audience, he has to sell the book at a huge mark-up in order to make a profit, and print/sell relatively few to create scarcity value. That's how supply-and-demand works.

Incidentally, I've sold private studies for five figures or more to teams of professional gamblers in various fields. Usually it is not a straight cash transaction but a deal where I get a small % of any profits arising from the use of techniques I've developed. Any one with information of actual value who is trying to sell to the high-roller AP niche does the same thing: you make a hell of a lot more than $250 per sale doing that.
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:29 PM   #93
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

And yet another way to look at it is: I sent Grosjean $250 for his book a little less than a year ago. To date I have not received the book.

Sure beats counting, I guess...
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Old 11-14-2011, 08:31 AM   #94
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

What are the Manson's books do you like to recommend ?
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:03 AM   #95
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

Hey guys,

I noticed many of you have Exhibit CAA Beyond Counting. How did you purchase this book? I have been trying to purchase from the website but I am getting no replies from my email. Is there a different purchasing page?

Thank you!

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Old 11-16-2011, 08:03 PM   #96
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

I have a copy of Exhibit CAA Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

Selling price : USD3000( three thousand )

Don't reply if you are not willing to pay for that price

IT WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN GOLD !!
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:15 PM   #97
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

Exhibit CAA is only sold to established Professional Gamblers who have had others in good standing vouch for them.
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Old 12-07-2011, 05:42 PM   #98
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

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Exhibit CAA is only sold to established Professional Gamblers who have had others in good standing vouch for them.
Yes, and the truth about lizards controlling our world leaders is accessible only to scientologists who make very generous donations....
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Old 12-07-2011, 08:45 PM   #99
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

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Exhibit CAA is only sold to established Professional Gamblers who have had others in good standing vouch for them.
misplaced modifier.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:09 AM   #100
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

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Exhibit CAA is only sold to established Professional Gamblers who have had others in good standing vouch for them.
Maybe that's the way now, but it sure as hell wasn't when the new edition came out. I'm a complete unknown, far from a pro, and for sure no one vouched for me. Nevertheless, I have my copy, bought directly from James' site.

I guess sometimes you just gotta be lucky.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:03 PM   #101
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Maybe that's the way now, but it sure as hell wasn't when the new edition came out. I'm a complete unknown, far from a pro, and for sure no one vouched for me. Nevertheless, I have my copy, bought directly from James' site.

I guess sometimes you just gotta be lucky.
Yes, the book was initially sold to pretty much any one.

The "only professional gamblers" thing is a smokescreen to hide the fact the website is taking people's money without filling orders. It is also a convenient way of preventing anybody who might criticize the book from doing so.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:15 PM   #102
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Yes, the book was initially sold to pretty much any one.

The "only professional gamblers" thing is a smokescreen to hide the fact the website is taking people's money without filling orders. It is also a convenient way of preventing anybody who might criticize the book from doing so.
Their is reportedly a second edition with still more material, given only to
select individuals (which could be the genesis of the pro gambler's suggestion).
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:21 PM   #103
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Re: Beyond Counting by James Grosjean

I don't have Exhibit CAA, but I do have the first one and it's a decent book. Basically the gist is "hey there's all these other games and plenty of edges to be had, don't just assume it's unbeatable because it isn't blackjack". But of course it goes into technical detail about what he did with each game. There's a good chart for hole-carding in 3 card poker that I think is on Shackleford's site now.
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