That's the secret ... or. as spadebidder has put it ...

I would say Amen ... except,

I accept this argument on mathematical grounds -- but as many of you know, I'm suspicious on empirical evidence. Re: dependence on luck -- I don't endorse, promote, or practice it -- but there's a thread in here that lets you know I don't totally dismiss game selection as a strategy

yes, anyone with a clue who play craps regularly would agree that you need to vary time and place rather than just stand at one table

this is an interesting discussion

all i will say is that the 7 appears 16.57% of the time as compared to the other numbers & that you can win at craps with smart play

[ ] has a clue

Would it be beneficial to players if a casino put up one of those little tote boards (like they do with roulette) that kept track of what numbers had been thrown recently? That would make it easier to find the hot table wouldn't it?

I just played/learnt craps for the first time last week at Mohegan Sun. we played 2 different tables, and surprisingly people were helping us out a lot. Obviously I only gathered basic rules and strategy, so I was wondering if any of you know of any good videos? I searched one of my download sites and found nothing.

I highly doubt that anyone has ever beat the casino at craps over the long run regardless of whether they played at 'hot' tables or not.

Hey guys do you know if i can place 2 bets that completely cancel each other out in craps? Sort of like betting on all numbers in roulette.

In roulette if you bet on all 38 numbers, the one that hits will pay you 35x (plus your 1) and the other 37 bets lose, meaning you are guaranteed to lose exactly 2 units every spin. Is that what you mean by canceling out?

There is no neutral combination in either game.

In craps the so-called "doey/don't" strategy actually doubles the house edge, and quadruples your $ loss rate if you are using table minimums on each side because you are also betting twice as much.

typo? or basis for your incorrect conclusion?

or both?

I have to say that this was one of the funniest lines I've read in awhile. I also find it best to play blackjack at tables where the dealer is busting a lot. This tends to work out better than playing at tables where they are getting 20s and 21s.

Have you read the "SheetWise Guide to Table Selection"?

In a nutshell, in BJ you look at the table -- and if they look lucky you join them. If they're sorry you joined the table, and they express it -- then leave. In craps, you look at the next shooter. If they look lucky, and are betting the front -- then bet the front with them. If the next shooter looks unlucky and is betting the front -- then bet the back. If you're betting the back and winning, throw in a hopping 3-4 for the dealers when you're behind six points. It's all about entertainment.

(when you're gambling

Craps tables with festive, cheering players should always be joined, but usually there is no room The opposite, however, may be true of blackjack tables.

There was a blackjack thread here regarding whether or not it is +EV to play at an empty table with a half-dealt shoe, and the same counterintuitive logic may apply to one's observing the stacks (and smiles) of the existing players at a BJ table.

Happy players may have just won their money on a shoe that, a few minutes ago, was rich in 10-cards, and now the count may be sufficiently negative that small cards predominate and it is now -EV for you to start playing.

Conversely, an abandoned half-dealt shoe may indicate that (average, non-counting) players gave up after losing money on the first half of the shoe, and therefore a deck rich in 10-cards (and therefore +EV for players) could await.

Sheetwise, I nominate you for the number 1 troll on 2+2. You give funny as hell answers and you give very informative ones. Some of the answers you give are so sarcastic yet they look like real answers. wp (don't take this as a dig, its meant to be written as a compliment)

Thank you for the review. I try to mesh into the dialogue, as obtuse as it often is, and hope I'm offering something someone can make constructive use of. I look at it as a small community, and everyone should not be granted access. Perception is a great egalitarian tool to limit access

I always looks for the craps tables that are using only 1 die. They tend to roll the least sevens. Always place the 4,5,6.

The problem is everyone gets confused when you roll a 1.