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01-31-2017 , 04:34 PM
Hi got ploppy heat again yesterday. Won 4 units and left. I felt kinda threatened yesterday. One of the ploppies was like ''-we r gonna screw you up''

1. Next time this happens how should i play it? > just leave like i did?

2. Sometimes before playing the first hand i let everybody know that i will be hitting 'til i make 21, this kinda prepares them psychologically. As i write this i am getting anxious and pissed off because i am going today.

3. Another plan i have is to ask the dealer if i can hit til i make 21, and/or if it is against the rules to hit til i make 21 and make sure everyone is listening.

4. Another plan will be to just ignore them, like they where talking chinese?
But i don't think ignoring them is a good plan. People hate to be ignored, although most people will just get tired of being ignored. Just don't wanna piss them more than what they are already.

5. My usual reaction is to say -'' oh, i am sorry''.

But yesterday that was not my reaction. My reaction was something like -" i do not team up, i am alone, i play my hands alone''

6. Lately i have been wanting to tell them this: -'' ok, let's team up let's gather all the money we have, split it equally, play for an hour or two, and then split the profits''

7. Would the best plan be to say: -''Gentleman look, i came here after work to enjoy myself and play for fun and i wanna win too, is not in my intentions to make you loose your hand''

But part of me wants to say -''Do u know what fkn card is gonna come out u dumb idiot? No right? Then STFU!

Any suggestions? anyone?

Which is the best plan in your opinions. Need to get past this bull****.

loose rate -23u/143h

Last edited by ARCANGEL0; 01-31-2017 at 04:38 PM. Reason: suggestions in how to proceed please
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02-01-2017 , 09:23 AM
Are the places you play at public and relatively reputable?

Need more details but given some of your other posts it's probably just paranoia and being uncomfortable around people. Old ladies playing off a notecard figure out how to tune out the "you took the bust card" crowd...
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02-01-2017 , 09:41 AM
my usual comment is 'when you give me money to gamble with then you can tell me how to play'. Or, 'this is America (or other country) I can do what I want'
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02-01-2017 , 11:38 AM
Hi Thanks for the replies!

Yesterday i went and won 3 units.
Went for plan #3
3. Another plan i have is to ask the dealer if i can hit til i make 21, and/or if it is against the rules to hit til i make 21 and make sure everyone is listening.

It worked perfectly!

loose rate 20u/144h
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02-03-2017 , 11:57 AM
Hi i went yesterday and won 5 units.

An old woman said to the crowd: -''he plays very bad'' as soon as i put money on the felt. I was really happy she said that! Then a ploppy said: -''Why? is he from another country?'' and the OW was like:-''no he is from here and speaks like 4 languages'' lol!
and the dealer said: -''this guy likes to hit like he is asking for gifts to Santa Claus.''
Played half a shoe. haha.

loose rate -15u/145h
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02-07-2017 , 12:32 PM
Hi i went on friday and won 38 units!

However 30 of those units where a gift from a whale! The guy was slightly drunk, table was full and he was like: -'' if i win we all win'' he was betting the table maximum (150 units) for the most part. He had 3 bet sizes 50 units 100 units and the max.
Whenever he won a double on those max bets he will give 10 units to every player at the table and 25 units as a tip for the casino staff!

At this table the biggest chip is worth 25 units. His pocket was full of these, like full.
He was like -''Can't you pay my in a bigger denomination?''
He left with thousands of units!

I went on Saturday and won 2 units lol!

win rate 25u/147h
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02-08-2017 , 02:58 PM
Hi i went yesterday and won 7 units.

Got ploppy heat hahah!
This 50 something year old woman was so obnoxious man!
I didn't even make eye contact. She was like -''I am cool as a friend, but as an enemy i am a son of a bitch.'' Don't know about you but that sounds like a threat to me. But this shoe was good so i was not leaving. I handle her like i would handle a barking dog. She was berating my unit size too. LOL!
These ploppies will just project their frustration man!
It was kinda amusing yesterday. She was playing with a dude with tattoos on his arms > (i insta think he is an ex-convict.) I get dealt 44 and split them and he was like -"you should have doubled not split.''


''Are the places you play at public and relatively reputable?'' > yes sir.

win rate 32u/148h
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02-08-2017 , 06:46 PM
Then ignore them and be happy they exist. If they didn't decent games wouldn't get spread. If you were in a private game in a mobster's basement you might have to make some decisions as is it's much ado about nothing.
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02-09-2017 , 12:02 PM
^Cool thanks!

I went yesterday and won 5 units.

win rate 37u/149h
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02-21-2017 , 05:24 PM
Hi it's been a while

I have been lurking on forums and found a pretty cool one i am gonna copy paste here the ideas and advice i got from there

-Always remember that these people are addicts and any attempt at reason is wasted on them.

-Thicken your skin a little.

- If you want to be successful at this game, you might want to train yourself to be a bit of an *******.

- it's not necessary to BE an ******* to be successful. I would argue, though, it's a necessary trait. And if you don't have it, you are playing with a handicap.

-A firm "PLAY YOUR OWN HAND NOT MINE" stops most of these people right off the bat.
If you cant assert yourself, well then your stuck i guess. Don't be a pussy.

-I say let them be angry if they want. Don't try to reason or tell them to shut the F*** up either, it just makes them even more intolerable. If they want to lose money let them, but don't let them make you lose money just because they're mad. Just keep playing and if they get pissed, just say sorry or nothing at all.

-I like these confrontations,,,sorta live for them, and I will not take sh## from anyone and will never alter my plays for another player.

This is part of the excitment of playing and if you can develop the "look" people will think twice about hassling you.

-It's you and a bunch of empty chairs vs the dealer. Anything else is just background noise.

-If you're getting abuse at the table and you want to try to talk you way out of it, what I do is just explain that when you put your own money down on the table, you have the right to play your cards any way you want to. Then I'll add is that if he wants my advice, I'll give it, but otherwise I'm not going to tell him what to do and I'd expect the same respect from him. Usually at that point the dealer will take your side.

-I would just ignore them. I would never apologize for my play. I have every right to play anyway I choose, however there is absolutely nothing to be gained be any kind of verbal exchange at the table.

-I simply say "Blackjack isn't a team sport" and leave it at that.

-We are the mental giants in these places.

-It's really just a matter of being professional, disciplined and staying focused on what you are there for. If you take the emotions out of every situation and just weigh risk vs reward for every action and reaction, most decisions and paths become crystal clear. It is emotions that fogs everything up.

-The point is, you're not there to fight, be cool, impress, look intelligent, defend your pride, whatever---you're there to win money and a happy light-hearted table without distractions or heavy emotions is conducive to good play. Just keep it low key, make the right plays, and rake in the cash.

-Here's some of the replies I might use:

That's the way I always play it.
I thought I read that in a book somewhere.
I had a hunch.
Sometimes I play it this way, sometimes I play it the way you say.
If I could predict what the next card was, I would own this place.
I thought it was a good move at the time.
Yeah, I guess I made a stupid play.
What does the book say?
Last time I did what you said, I busted.
It worked last time I did it.
I was trying to get lucky.
I'm not a very good player.
I do it different every other time.
I always play it that way; at least I'm consistent.
If I knew how to play this game, I wouldn't be losing so much.
Where can I learn the right way to play?
I thought I had 15.
I didn't realize the dealer had a ten.
I don't know what I was thinking.
Tell me next time I start to do that.
I was trying to change the flow of cards.
I'm sorry. I don't play so good.

- All these people you encounter, you're at the top of the food chain and they're at the bottom, with the casino in the middle, and you can't ever let anyone know that, but you can't ever forget that.

So this guy was asking for advice. And that's what he got.
Here is what he did the next time he played:

-When gasps were made, or heads shaken, and groans made I simply grinned, smurked, with an occasionally arrogant small laugh, and looked over to the person w/ eye contact and smiled and nodded. However, I restricted myself from making ANY verbal reply, be it and explination or a retaliation. As it might of worked or not, it was not even worth the breath to try this to me. I simply had promised myself that I would not reply. Yet 2 mins later, if the same person asks me what I do for a living, I was as freindly and talkative as could be.

-There are times when I will have made a highly conspicuous move at the table, and dealers and players will frequently comment on my play. The shrug and a terse, meaningless dismissal is all that's needed.

loose rate -3u/152h

glgl
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02-22-2017 , 01:22 PM
Hi
So i went last night and won 20units

win rate 17u/153h
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02-23-2017 , 04:23 PM
Hi i went last night and won 4 units.

win rate 21u/154h
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02-27-2017 , 12:22 PM
You count card ?
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02-28-2017 , 11:39 AM
yes 'til i make 21 then i stop
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