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Old 12-01-2011, 03:58 PM   #106
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:17 PM   #107
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There is a whole other thread on this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...rance-1062444/
Haha, I guess my idea is worthless.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:18 PM   #108
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Students are giant nits about money and will def eat at McDonalds if it's 1€ cheaper imo.
valid point, how about marketing it as a cheap restaurant. Basicly if you feel like mcdonalds, but you want a v decent but cheap dinner, and dont want to wait that long as in a restaurant. Also if you make it that much more tasty and healthy (more tasty then healthy tho) then mcdonalds, wont you have a decent amount of students also who go there maybe once a week, or once every 2 weeks? So basicly i should focus really hard on as much quality as possible here, and make sure they dont get sloppy in the kitchen.

And lets assume that when i experiment for a while with this, i can create a pretty damn tasty menu for a decent price. How to make sure my cooks are going to make it as tasty all the time? This is what i hate in alot of restaurants, potentially awesome food made mediocre or ruined by a sloppy chef.
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- Would this be a day time place or a night time place? Ie closing at 10pm or at 5am? Quite a difference in customers - I tend to find most of my friends that want to go get a bite at 2am don't care about the fat/unhealthiness, and not only because they are drunk. But as a daytime place you are more of a standard 'casual' restaurant that serves burgers, doens't have a lot to do with most kebab places. Doesn't have to be a problem obv, but you'll have different customers etc. Most burger restaurants I know (there is one in Antwerp and one closeby here in London) seem to get customers that don't care that this burger costs 3€ more than one at McDo
def daytime, and not sure if i should include night time also. Agree on the bit that people (including me) dont care about healthy food when they are drunk).
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- Building on that: wouldn't it be better to position this as say a gourmet burger restaurant, not doing delivery, but having higher quality? If you also do delivery won't people assume your food is crappy fast food like most delivery places?
yea, but once it is running, and most people ate at least once at your place, or heard from others it is pretty good you can start doing delivery. But ofcourse this also depends on how cheap you can do that, if its almost twice as much as a pizza then it wont be popular.

I think the problem with this is that I dont know the pitfalls, and it seems like something that you have to invest quite alot of money and time in at first. So if i have other things that are way more +ev , i just have to wait untill i have more free time on my hands that i cannot fill up with something productive. Unless ofcourse I think i have a pretty high probability of making it succeed and making a decent bit of money with it.

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Old 12-01-2011, 04:22 PM   #109
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I've seen enough Kitchen Nightmares to know that starting a restaurant is a lot work. It'll be all about the execution and how consistent the restaurant is. Plus if you just want to be an investor, you better find some chef or somebody to run the restaurant that will care about it just as much as you.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:27 PM   #110
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i don't know anything about the restaurent business but it has to be quite hard for you to compete with a chain like mcdo's on prize while delivering better quality, so i feel like you should focus on quality and forget trying to compete with mcdo's on price. same for kebab places, the ones that focus on price have really ****ty meat etc. everybody tastes that, but you don't care bc it's so cheap. the more 'upscale' kebab places that feel more like a restaurant than a snack bar also seem to have a more mixed clientele willing to spend more (drunk 30yo's rather than drunk students at night, 50year olds at 6pm etc), and if anything you can liken your quality burger idea to a quality kebab place as in how it relates to mcdo's/a ghetto kebab place. same thing, better quality, higher prices -> different customers

there def seems to be a lack of quality 'quick bite' (doesn't have to be only burgers obv) places in flanders though, so there should be a market as i assume it's probably the same in holland (or even worse given it's reputation)


*edit* like the poster above hinted, do you just want to invest in or run a restaurant with all the pitfalls and 'standardness' that entails, or are you trying to start a chain?
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:31 PM   #111
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I've always wanted to bring the concept of the customizable poker HUD to other areas. If you're watching a baseball game on tv, you can overlay the stats that you want to keep track on top of the tv.

I'm sure there are other fields where it's beneficial to have customizable stats available to you in real time.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:39 PM   #112
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i don't know anything about the restaurent business but it has to be quite hard for you to compete with a chain like mcdo's on prize while delivering better quality, so i feel like you should focus on quality and forget trying to compete with mcdo's on price. same for kebab places, the ones that focus on price have really ****ty meat etc. everybody tastes that, but you don't care bc it's so cheap. the more 'upscale' kebab places that feel more like a restaurant than a snack bar also seem to have a more mixed clientele willing to spend more (drunk 30yo's rather than drunk students at night, 50year olds at 6pm etc), and if anything you can liken your quality burger idea to a quality kebab place as in how it relates to mcdo's/a ghetto kebab place. same thing, better quality, higher prices -> different customers

there def seems to be a lack of quality 'quick bite' (doesn't have to be only burgers obv) places in flanders though, so there should be a market as i assume it's probably the same in holland (or even worse given it's reputation)


*edit* like the poster above hinted, do you just want to invest in or run a restaurant with all the pitfalls and 'standardness' that entails, or are you trying to start a chain?
I want to compete only with mcdonalds in that i actually want to food to look like in the pictures. And not have you feeling like you just ate toxic waste. Ofcourse i cannnot make it as cheap. And then I sell it as a restaurant. So no counter where you can get a quick 1 euro burger. But also with quick waiting times. So basicly you order and you get your food quickly, since it should be faster to make then most food. And since there dont seem to be such places in holland I thought it should have a higher chance of succes then just starting some random restaurant.

Not sure if you know Johnny rocket's in dublin, but kind of like that place. Except I didnt like theyr menu that much.

But yea I think you probably need a motivated chef for that. And i dont know any. And i dont like cooking nearly enough to stand in the kitchen myself for long hours.
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:45 PM   #113
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Something like this?

http://www.hacheburgers.com/index.php

I def think there is a market for it, but it's just pretty much another restaurant. Not that that's bad obv

This is in Antwerp (site is in Dutch): http://www.burgerij.be/

There are a lot of bars nearby, but they close at 10.30. I feel they should make good money being open later, esp in that neighbourhood (it's pretty upscale). Every friday night I come there place is packed btw

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Old 12-01-2011, 05:20 PM   #114
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For the refrigerator idea, it makes more sense to go after restaurants. You could integrate the system with cash register to get a better idea of what has been used. RFID tags on the bins of food in the coolers will allow the food to be tracked. This would be attractive to restaurants because it will reduce the labor involved in tracking food and help prevent and located sources of spoilage. Alerts could be set up to go off when food is out of place or nearing spoilage.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:44 PM   #115
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The refrigerator tracking for restaurants seems great. Need to see if it's already patented.

Didn't liked it to house, it costs to deliver a few eggs (making the price go up) and the guy can have just left home, if he needs to be turning on and off would be better to have a interface where he can just click the item he wants to hire a deliver - this would take the cost of needing someone answering the phone and fidelity would increase as we are too lazy...

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Old 12-01-2011, 05:55 PM   #116
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:58 PM   #117
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Imagine the above, but adding a multitouch trackpad and also adding a universal A/V remote control for TVs, satellite boxes, DVD players, etc. It will have a way to hold an ipad, or any smartphone.

So you keep it on your coffee table or at your bedside, and now you can easily reply to emails on your smartphone while you watch television. It would also be the killer unifying device for people who have home theater PCs. Maybe it also has a large battery inside and can charge items plugged into it like ipad, smartphone, etc.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:19 PM   #118
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I don't cook that often, but I'll cook for myself from time to time. What I hate in supermarkets is that a lot of the produce comes in much bigger sizes than I need. If a recipe calls for celery, it's often always a few stalks of celery. What happens most of the time, is that I buy all this produce to cook one thing and then I have all these leftover vegetables that go bad in the fridge. Somebody in the supermarket business should target people living by themselves who cook occasionally as opposed to always targeting people cooking for a family.
I actually was building a site for a while called CrossFeed which was like Crossfit for meal plans for athletes. You just joined up, it gave you shopping lists 2x weekly, it micromanaged the meals so that they used up all the food by the end of the shopping list cycle (eg if you bought celery as a snack, it would probably be that you would stirfry it or something in another dish that week), recipes would be on the site to cook things.

The idea was you would basically just blindly follow it and end up with no wasted food, easy to cook recipes with all the calories etc broken down for you, etc.

I started thinking about stuff like celebrity meal plans after this. That lead me to the thought of a site called "EatWhatIEat", a kind of 'feed' where you could log on and find peoples meal plans. It would be great for example if you could see the sort of plans that, day to day, Hugh Jackman was eating as he prepared to be wolverine, or what others were eating.

It could also be managed as a kind of site for amateur but serious athletes, like i mentioned, a food based Crossfit style site.

I've since moved past caring about these ideas but i feel like there was something there...
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I've always wanted to bring the concept of the customizable poker HUD to other areas. If you're watching a baseball game on tv, you can overlay the stats that you want to keep track on top of the tv.

I'm sure there are other fields where it's beneficial to have customizable stats available to you in real time.
I would buy this.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:26 PM   #120
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I actually was building a site for a while called CrossFeed which was like Crossfit for meal plans for athletes. You just joined up, it gave you shopping lists 2x weekly, it micromanaged the meals so that they used up all the food by the end of the shopping list cycle (eg if you bought celery as a snack, it would probably be that you would stirfry it or something in another dish that week), recipes would be on the site to cook things.

The idea was you would basically just blindly follow it and end up with no wasted food, easy to cook recipes with all the calories etc broken down for you, etc.

I started thinking about stuff like celebrity meal plans after this. That lead me to the thought of a site called "EatWhatIEat", a kind of 'feed' where you could log on and find peoples meal plans. It would be great for example if you could see the sort of plans that, day to day, Hugh Jackman was eating as he prepared to be wolverine, or what others were eating.
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I have a restricted medical diet and this would be huge. I already do this for myself and another person, but sometimes stores run out of certain things and you have to modify on the fly. You would need to account for that somehow.
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