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Old 12-01-2011, 01:55 AM   #51
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I would like to invent and market a contraption that will allow wealthy people to put their pants on two legs at a time.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:31 AM   #52
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A service that offers super high-interest savings accounts for newlyweds. The couple has to lock in their deposit for x years and if they get divorced they forfeit it. Basically I want to capitalize on how unrealistic newlyweds are and bet against marriages lasting. Obv have to play with the numbers to make it profitable.

Other features might include:
- allow friends and family to bet against the marriage (balance my action and charge vig)
- sell the above list of doubters to the couple
- instead of forfeiting the deposit, some or all can be used toward divorce or counseling services that my business also provides
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:41 AM   #53
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A service that offers super high-interest savings accounts for newlyweds. The couple has to lock in their deposit for x years and if they get divorced they forfeit it. Basically I want to capitalize on how unrealistic newlyweds are and bet against marriages lasting. Obv have to play with the numbers to make it profitable.

Other features might include:
- allow friends and family to bet against the marriage (balance my action and charge vig)
- sell the above list of doubters to the couple
- instead of forfeiting the deposit, some or all can be used toward divorce or counseling services that my business also provides
Lololol, I love this.

You couldn't let your sinister intentions be known though. You would have to market the company the exact opposite way, "rewarding devote couples who keep the sanctity of marriage"; then just let the numbers do the work.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:44 AM   #54
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A service that offers super high-interest savings accounts for newlyweds. The couple has to lock in their deposit for x years and if they get divorced they forfeit it. Basically I want to capitalize on how unrealistic newlyweds are and bet against marriages lasting. Obv have to play with the numbers to make it profitable.

Other features might include:
- allow friends and family to bet against the marriage (balance my action and charge vig)
- sell the above list of doubters to the couple
- instead of forfeiting the deposit, some or all can be used toward divorce or counseling services that my business also provides
Lol...putting the evil in in eviljeff?

True story...one of my best friends is from a family with net worth ~500 mil (that he is the only heir to) and he makes a decent amount per year himself. He got his wife to sign a prenup without knowing it. She'll just sign anything he tells her to without reading it. They seem happy now (after 2.5 years of marriage) but I imagine it could be an interesting court case if it comes up.

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Old 12-01-2011, 02:45 AM   #55
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So for the next month or so I'm going to post all kinds of ideas in this thread. Some of them are things I've though about for a while (I have an ideas book on me at almost all times, and I recommend you do it too) and some of them are new ideas that I'll come up with over the course of this exercise.
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great idea and looking forward to reading. i always keep an ideas file on my iphone as well.
Ok, synopsis of the top 5 ideas in both of your idea books then please.

Shouldn't be an issue right?
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:22 AM   #56
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A fridge that automatically orders groceries for you to be delivered by Amazon Fresh/whoever

I think this one is quite a few years away but it will happen eventually. There's a couple food items that people always need to have in their fridge: milk, eggs, bread etc. Why bother going to grocery shopping when you can just have your fridge automatically order a new batch when the last one's getting low?

This thread would be a lot easier if you could comment on people's posts and keep each idea in one subthread, but such is the ways of 2+2. Idea #2 update 2+2 so each post can be commented on and sub threaded comments on reddit are.
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:58 AM   #57
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Ok, synopsis of the top 5 ideas in both of your idea books then please.

Shouldn't be an issue right?
I'll give you my ideas free, but you gotta go to my website to read them. http://www.andr3w321.com/15-free-business-ideas/
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:23 AM   #58
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I'll give you my ideas free, but you gotta go to my website to read them. http://www.andr3w321.com/15-free-business-ideas/
Nice website, and also side company. I would be interested to here about the ATM business.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:26 AM   #59
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I currently live the Philippines and there are no coinstar type machines here. Coinstar apparently is only in the US/UK. A downside here is the increased threat of theft, but if placed in supermarkets, then the supermarket security would counter that.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:15 AM   #60
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Some guy gave a speech at a video game conference maybe 1-1.5 years ago, and I wish I could remember his name and find the video, but he basically laid out a big scenario where every aspect of everyone's life becomes tracked and game-ified, with achievement badges and all that sort of thing. So you get points for exercising regularily, brushing your teeth, whatever, and you can give access to your data to organizations if you want, so for instance the government might decide to give a tax credit to people who exercise regularily, in order to lower health care costs, etc.
Saw the talk when it came out and immediately recognized it when you wrote about it. Managed to find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FSsz...ayer_embedded#!
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:26 AM   #61
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Had an idea a couple months ago that kinda came from an NVG thread about creating a website for poker scammers. Specifically players who have taken money as a means of direct theft. Not a site for Multi-accounting/Colluding/Chip dumping, but a site for people who essentially stole stakes. I actually got started on it, but have not done anything in a while.

Create a website with 2 parts.

Part 1 is famous/ named players. These don't have to be actually "famous", but more people who would be potentially asking to borrow money based on their reputation and what their real life name is. This part would include a brief description with hopefully a picture and outstanding debts that they have, or previously outstanding debts that have been resolved.

Part 2 is a database of online screen names that are guilty of scamming. This part would be way more difficult to organize and to police than the first part, imo. It would be a list of online names/ known/ thought aliases and the amounts of money in question. Since 99% of these scammers will have had the money sent from someone on the same site or across a different site, I was thinking these scams would need to be verified with a username who transferred the money.


The key to the site would be the ability to "Dispute/ Resolve a Scam." Obviously it could be re-named to something that sounds more positive,etc. It would allow the individual from part 1, or the account owner of part 2 to come forward and dispute the claims against them, or put the website in a position to help broker a deal. The website would not directly get involved with any negotiations, just provide a method of contact between the 2 parties, which would be required to report the scam. In the case of a real-life scammer from part 1, it would probably be assumed that the individuals could contact each other.

Basically the way to make $$ is to make it into a point of gossip to be used in discussions not on the website, and have a twitter feed that hopefully eventually semi to high profile poker news resources will follow and learn about people who may be going busto. Advertising would be 100% source of income and the website would not charge anything if $$ was returned.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:27 AM   #62
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also i like this thread. i have a few i can't post in here but will try to think of some i can
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:30 AM   #63
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i like this
I like this too but the monetization strategy could use some work. Something like getting a % of resolved situations or something other than relying on advertising and I'd be all for it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:52 AM   #64
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pokerpoints.com

basically like fpppro but have a section for every site PP/Ipoker/Ongame/Merge and yes PS.

make $ through affiliate links directly to sites or be an RB affiliate or affiliate for an RB affiliate.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:17 AM   #65
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I will start it off with one...

When I was applying to top universities during my senior year of high school, I sought out any resources I could find on the internet to improve my chances of success. I was quickly surprised at the amount of quality free material available to college applicants. In particular, www.collegeconfidential.com had an excellent highly-trafficked forum where applicants could ask each other for advice, compare their credentials, and rejoice or commiserate when colleges made their final decisions. CollegeConfidential's forums contain a whopping 11,844,361 posts over 991,086 topics.

One noteworthy aspect of this forum was that participation frequently continued beyond the application process. There was a strong “community feel,” and freshmen and sophomores at elite universities frequently came back to help high school seniors with their applications and expectations.

Unfortunately, the free college application consulting available in online forums like CollegeConfidential can be widely variable, and the anonymity provided by the internet makes it difficult to separate signal from noise. There is a growing trend toward high-dollar college admissions consultants that can cost upward of hundreds of dollars per hour, or several thousands of dollars for an "admissions package."

There is a market for aspiring college students that lies between these two extremes: admissions advice and consulting directly from students who were recently accepted to top universities. Increasingly, consumers are preferring to rely on their peers rather than a central authority for recommendations and advice. The internet has only magnified this. TripAdvisor is a great example of this phenomenon; most consumers would rather read a review from Frommer's opposed to a single review from a stranger. However, when you collect fifteen reviews from users who have visibly built credibility and are likely to be unbiased, the scales turn and users strongly prefer the aggregate advice to the (likely outdated and fluffy) Frommer's review.

I would start with a premium forum with 10 subforums each dedicated to one of the top 10 universities. Facebook makes it incredibly easy to find internet-savvy recent attendees of these schools; mass contact them and offer a salary per-quality-post. These freshman and sophomores' won't require high salaries (many are doing it for free on CollegeConfidential + they are college students) yet they have a successful recent admissions experience, which is very valuable to parents and students in the admissions process. Incentive fast, solid responses with a pay-scale that rewards the first X responses to customers' questions on a diminishing scale. Customers can post as many questions as they would like, non-customers could view a teaser like the top 3 posts in any forum.

From there, the idea is very scalable. Expand beyond the top 10 universities, offer services besides a forum; essay or application review, 1-on-1 Skype-style consulting, webinars, marketing to colleges, whatever. Students frequently blog concurrently about their admissions experience. Turn it into a social network for college applications and their parents.

Harvard alone received 35,000 applications at $75/each during the 2011 admissions cycle. The average student applying to top universities applies to several schools and has a significant time and monetary investment in the application process. Aspiring poker players were quick to pay for a service like CardRunners because it provided a path to increased future earnings. I see a mid-market college consulting business as providing a similar service. For a small investment, students and parents will receive advice that could alter their entire life's earning potential.

cliffs; College admissions consulting is a massive industry with a large gap in quality between free and paid services that can be filled with highly skilled yet cheap labor.
I am currently living and operating out of Shanghai, having started up my own admissions consulting company targeted toward Chinese high school students looking to go overseas for university. I love this idea, and would like to further discuss/expand via PM or right through the forum with anyone that is interested in this idea. Would love to bounce ideas off one another, share resources, and perhaps even eventually do business together. I have a small but dedicated niche of students, and am always looking to innovate and expand market share. Thanks mmbtone, excellent idea for a thread.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:00 AM   #66
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I like this too but the monetization strategy could use some work. Something like getting a % of resolved situations or something other than relying on advertising and I'd be all for it.
Good point, and I am def weak on the monetization strategy aspect of the idea.

My ideas typically spin off in a couple directions, so here are some things I have also thought about for the site, but are fairly abstract.

In theory some people are going to scam others and never pay anyone back. These "pages" will essentially consist mostly of a "build a scammer profile" and then leave it alone because 1) they arent going to pay back and 2) no one is going to lend them money again (hopefully ). Here the site is not going to be able to make money other than advertising.

There will be a second group of people who scam money and then pay some/all of it back. This is where the money is. Human beings are creatures of habit, history repeats itself, past performance -> future results, etc. The individuals that get in a position of owing money on a stake whether they stole it, degened it, went busto, w/e BUT then pay it back are likely to do this exact same thing again. If they are paying it back because the site blows up their spot, there is obvious value there and a few ways to monetize it (charging % of debt, charging to list the debt against this person, etc.). The other opportunity is to "verify" a debt exists, and then sell the debt. We would be able to charge a vig on both the sale of the debt, and the collection. As well as potentially keeping the entire sale of the debt private, and say the "buyer of the debt" paid 30% on 1$, what would be stopping the site from trying to go after the entire amount. Ethically it would be more like an auction and we would have to be transparent and if we get for 70% paid back of a 30% sold debt, we would still charge our typical %, but customers would be very happy.

If organized correctly and made as transparent as possible, something like a banner on the person's page "Debt has been sold, Negotiations possible". It would be an opportunity to get in between the transactions. I'm not taking about trying to get 50% on a debt sold at 30%, but more like 2-3% max. After any transaction it would also be recorded and made transparent on the site, so people aren't just lending money to someone and then selling it at 30% over and again.

Also, there could be more premium features available so someone that say lends 100k's on a huge stable on 2+2, would have higher level of attention and better support then someone who is reporting a debt from 3 years ago from someone that could be dead/ in jail.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:00 AM   #67
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My idea that I hope someone steals is a fantasy sports sit n go website.

The problem that I see I that a lot of people are interested in doing fantasy, but may not have 11 friends, or want to pay $100 to do a league.

My solution is to start a site where it runs as a sit n go. Each league would be 12 player leagues and they would range in entry fee from $.50 to $5,000. Each league will already have a draft time set, so once you register you would be locked in to draft. The site would take a 10% rake, and there would be one scoring system.

I don't have the money or programming knowledge to do this, but I would love to help somebody do this.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:07 AM   #68
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this thread is a great idea.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:12 AM   #69
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A service that offers super high-interest savings accounts for newlyweds. The couple has to lock in their deposit for x years and if they get divorced they forfeit it. Basically I want to capitalize on how unrealistic newlyweds are and bet against marriages lasting. Obv have to play with the numbers to make it profitable.

Other features might include:
- allow friends and family to bet against the marriage (balance my action and charge vig)
- sell the above list of doubters to the couple
- instead of forfeiting the deposit, some or all can be used toward divorce or counseling services that my business also provides
This is genius though I would imagine there are major regulatory hurdles.
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My idea that I hope someone steals is a fantasy sports sit n go website.

The problem that I see I that a lot of people are interested in doing fantasy, but may not have 11 friends, or want to pay $100 to do a league.

My solution is to start a site where it runs as a sit n go. Each league would be 12 player leagues and they would range in entry fee from $.50 to $5,000. Each league will already have a draft time set, so once you register you would be locked in to draft. The site would take a 10% rake, and there would be one scoring system.

I don't have the money or programming knowledge to do this, but I would love to help somebody do this.
www.draftday.com (disclaimer: i am an owner)
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Good point, and I am def weak on the monetization strategy aspect of the idea.

My ideas typically spin off in a couple directions, so here are some things I have also thought about for the site, but are fairly abstract.

In theory some people are going to scam others and never pay anyone back. These "pages" will essentially consist mostly of a "build a scammer profile" and then leave it alone because 1) they arent going to pay back and 2) no one is going to lend them money again (hopefully ). Here the site is not going to be able to make money other than advertising.

There will be a second group of people who scam money and then pay some/all of it back. This is where the money is. Human beings are creatures of habit, history repeats itself, past performance -> future results, etc. The individuals that get in a position of owing money on a stake whether they stole it, degened it, went busto, w/e BUT then pay it back are likely to do this exact same thing again. If they are paying it back because the site blows up their spot, there is obvious value there and a few ways to monetize it (charging % of debt, charging to list the debt against this person, etc.). The other opportunity is to "verify" a debt exists, and then sell the debt. We would be able to charge a vig on both the sale of the debt, and the collection. As well as potentially keeping the entire sale of the debt private, and say the "buyer of the debt" paid 30% on 1$, what would be stopping the site from trying to go after the entire amount. Ethically it would be more like an auction and we would have to be transparent and if we get for 70% paid back of a 30% sold debt, we would still charge our typical %, but customers would be very happy.

If organized correctly and made as transparent as possible, something like a banner on the person's page "Debt has been sold, Negotiations possible". It would be an opportunity to get in between the transactions. I'm not taking about trying to get 50% on a debt sold at 30%, but more like 2-3% max. After any transaction it would also be recorded and made transparent on the site, so people aren't just lending money to someone and then selling it at 30% over and again.

Also, there could be more premium features available so someone that say lends 100k's on a huge stable on 2+2, would have higher level of attention and better support then someone who is reporting a debt from 3 years ago from someone that could be dead/ in jail.
This has basically already been done via PartTimePoker Staking via their respective forums of:

Report Abuse: http://forum.parttimepoker.com/report-abuse-forum/
Appeals: http://forum.parttimepoker.com/appeals-forum/
Gear Archive: http://forum.parttimepoker.com/gear-archive/

And they are already pretty much the biggest game in staking out there. I would know because I sold NeverBeg to them...

And people aren't going to want to go multiple places, one for staking, and one to figure out scammers. They want to do everything in the same place. So if you are going to do what you're suggesting you should have a community of stakers and players in the same place. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:20 AM   #72
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@cts that website looks great! What % do you take from the pools?
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I think I have seen that, but why not a season long league?
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:24 AM   #74
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This has basically already been done via PartTimePoker Staking via their respective forums of:

Report Abuse: http://forum.parttimepoker.com/report-abuse-forum/
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And they are already pretty much the biggest game in staking out there. I would know because I sold NeverBeg to them...

And people aren't going to want to go multiple places, one for staking, and one to figure out scammers. They want to do everything in the same place. So if you are going to do what you're suggesting you should have a community of stakers and players in the same place. Just my 2 cents.
I am familar with that site (lol mod did a br check by having some sit a 5k sng?) and in general I think a well organized website would be far superior to a forum for these purposes. The dynamics of a forum are much different than a website. Why would someone starting a new stake not be willing to quickly toss a few online sn's into a database and see if anything pops up. They don't have to read through a multi-post thread, or a thread with a vague "investigation" allegation and have an uneasy feeling, but nothing solid. This would be like ptr'ing someone except you are just making a quick check to make sure the name is clean.

It wouldn't require registration, and you could get on the site, and <1 min later with absolute minimum navigation you would have a good feeling about whether this sn/ person had a clean online image.
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@cts that website looks great! What % do you take from the pools?
it depends on the buy-in and game structure but between 6.3% and 9.9%
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