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09-10-2016 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Was floored how many followers the really chunky girls are getting on instagram. Check @itselkethestallion for example. She's coming up on 1M soon and she's grown FAST. The thick chubby girl trend is huge on instagram right now.
By "grown fast" do you mean she continues to get fatter and fatter? Anything for attention right...
10-11-2016 , 07:19 AM
Updates?
11-21-2016 , 02:26 AM
launched last week on IG and we're launching on Snapchat next Saturday with Jennifer Vaughn (Playboy cyber girl of the year 2013, #1 talent producer for Playboy Premium and #1 online photographer for playboy)

https://www.instagram.com/your.girlfriend.experience/

I have front loaded the content with more of her modeling work but I'm transitioning to a majority candid and will punctuate with model shoots...

i have 303 followers at the moment and have had very high engagement on pic likes. Jen shot my gf and posted those shots yesterday which was good for about 130 of my followers in a few hours but then she took the shots down, I haven't found out why but I'm guessing she wants to time them better with the Snapchat launch. I had no idea bout Snapchat but she has a subscriber service that she is making as much money as she wants to from (she limits the number of subscribers to keep it manageable). So, anything that we can get from that will be free money up front as far as my business plan is concerned.

Before I posted anything I built a spreadsheet of hashtags and split them by category so that I could shop for the right ones that apply to each frame... Then I have story boarded my posts so that I can begin to establish a narrative. What I've found is that the hash tags used in a posting are only good if that is a hashtag people are going to search and scroll through... "#sisters" is probably not going have people searching it to look at... but "#ravebra" is something that will get looked up when girls are needing ideas...

this may seem obvious but judging by the number of commercial posts i see wasting hashtags on things that will never get looked up impresses me lol

so, after i post i have been spending time searching hashtags for posts that i can like... my 2 most useful so far have been #singledad and #bros ... #singledad probably gets me the most click throughs but there is a lot of spam to sort through in those posts whereas #bros is almost all my target demographic. i need to find 4 or 5 more hashtags like these that stay busy enough to keep me from running out of new posts to like.

Today i made no posts and only liked others' posts throughout the day... i added 35 followers which seems pretty decent. I'll be putting 2 - 3 posts out per day going forward (with the exception of this weekend when we go to Houston to launch on Snapchat).

my target is 15k followers within 6 months. that will definitely be monetizable.

Depending on the quality of takeovers that I can put together for her on Snapchat I could go a bit quicker than that...

This is mostly just an exercise in learning how to create a brand from scratch... identify inefficiencies and exploit them. i think that this platform offers a lot of advantages for advertisers

we'll see lol
11-21-2016 , 07:31 AM
Can I just confirm that the naked women in those pictures is your girlfriend?

Gotta be honest here, I wasnt expecting these were the sorts of pictures you would be uploading, had I opened the first link in OP I would have obviously seen that. FWIW I hear porn stars still make some form of income through their social media

Last edited by OFA; 11-21-2016 at 07:41 AM.
11-21-2016 , 12:03 PM
Yes, you did a lot of explaining why I was wrong without doing any reading of my arguments lol

You were a little busy telling me how I'm nobody and gf is nobody and nobody will care and girls with cell phones already do this...

The struggle ig presents now that they have switched to a fb style algorithm is that if an advertiser pays for product placement but that image doesn't show up in a feed then it's like it never happened. An account that is more likely to get clicked on and scrolled through is a lot more valuable to advertisers... having high quality content is a huge differentiator and when followers do see one of these pics in their feed they will be more likely to click through and catch up on the narrative.... which is a huge value

And I'm growing the brand by chasing the target demographic... most of the profiles that I have following are not follow whores... they aren't reached as easily and will be a valuable group... these aren't follow4folllows, these are ig'ers interested in the story (and boobs)

I know that porn stars are monetizing through social media, like I said, I actually know this space really well but despite you not having a solution when I asked you what you would do to promote a page like this you had no idea, but we're confident that all of mine was **** lol

And, yes [x] my girlfriend which gives me the ability to create tons of candid content punctuated by shoots with really good photographers... the black & white shots on the profile were shot by a friend of mine as were the 2 nudes on the red thing... and I have a lot more in the pipeline. And we have the ability to do any theme we want at any time to capitalize on trends or whatnot
11-21-2016 , 12:25 PM
Yes, you did a lot of explaining why I was wrong without doing any reading of my arguments lol

You were a little busy telling me how I'm nobody and gf is nobody and nobody will care and girls with cell phones already do this...

The struggle ig presents now that they have switched to a fb style algorithm is that if an advertiser pays for product placement but that image doesn't show up in a feed then it's like it never happened. An account that is more likely to get clicked on and scrolled through is a lot more valuable to advertisers... having high quality content is a huge differentiator and when followers do see one of these pics in their feed they will be more likely to click through and catch up on the narrative.... which is a huge value

And I'm growing the brand by chasing the target demographic... most of the profiles that I have following are not follow whores... they aren't reached as easily and will be a valuable group... these aren't follow4folllows, these are ig'ers interested in the story (and boobs)

I know that porn stars are monetizing through social media, like I said, I actually know this space really well but despite you not having a solution when I asked you what you would do to promote a page like this you had no idea, but we're confident that all of mine was **** lol

And, yes [x] my girlfriend which gives me the ability to create tons of candid content punctuated by shoots with really good photographers... the black & white shots on the profile were shot by a friend of mine as were the 2 nudes on the red thing... and I have a lot more in the pipeline. And we have the ability to do any theme we want at any time to capitalize on trends or whatnot
11-21-2016 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hoonist
Yes, you did a lot of explaining why I was wrong without doing any reading of my arguments lol

You were a little busy telling me how I'm nobody and gf is nobody and nobody will care and girls with cell phones already do this...
You were actually offended by this? You are a nobody as is your girlfriend. Thats not to be taken offensively. It just makes it harder to do anything like this.

Also, I read your argument. all of it. I even gave what I would consider to be good advice. I still think everything I said still applies. The only difference being, people will tune in to see your g/f in the nip.

I also can't tell if you are being serious when you say people are subscribing to see the story... They are tuning in because they want to see your gf in the nude.

Also, bare in mind when you critisize me, at the age of 27 I have already made 7 figures from what you are trying to achieve. Anyway, best of luck. this will be the last post in this thread of relative value

Last edited by OFA; 11-21-2016 at 01:27 PM.
11-21-2016 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hoonist
these aren't follow4folllows, these are ig'ers interested in the story (and boobs)
Your last 7 posts have had some variation of #follow- just thought that was interesting.

I don't buy that "these are ig'ers interested in the story." So far your posts are captioned with two words and hashtags. Then anyone who interacts with your posts, gets a generic "Thanks @username ". Have you considered engaging with your audience in a more personalized manner?

So far what I see is a bunch of nudes, #follow4follows, and no story.

You received the most interaction with the beach dog & art pics. Delete the nudes, post them when you have 100k followers.
11-21-2016 , 06:42 PM
If you're not gonna use automation for this imho you're doing it wrong. Get yourself to 1000 likes and then imho automate.
11-21-2016 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OlafTheSnowman
Your last 7 posts have had some variation of #follow- just thought that was interesting.

I don't buy that "these are ig'ers interested in the story." So far your posts are captioned with two words and hashtags. Then anyone who interacts with your posts, gets a generic "Thanks @username ". Have you considered engaging with your audience in a more personalized manner?

So far what I see is a bunch of nudes, #follow4follows, and no story.

You received the most interaction with the beach dog & art pics. Delete the nudes, post them when you have 100k followers.

As i said in my update, I have front loaded the account with more skin and less candids (although, the candids will generally have a lot of skin as well)

Snapchat will be direct engagement and i'm still trying to figure out my whole plan on that side but i do plan to up our response game in general

The story isn't a written narrative, it's a visual one that makes her life look like a fantasy. The goal is to get the content more personalized as time goes by so that the viewers are more interested.

I'm not really trying to defend the hook, i understand the space and have a solid plan going forward to grow the concept.

The nudes have bad engagement because of how inferior my hashtags were on them.
11-21-2016 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
If you're not gonna use automation for this imho you're doing it wrong. Get yourself to 1000 likes and then imho automate.
How would you automate? I want to grow more organically so that my engagement rate stays high but if there are better ways to do that i'm listening
11-21-2016 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OFA
You were actually offended by this? You are a nobody as is your girlfriend. Thats not to be taken offensively. It just makes it harder to do anything like this.

Also, I read your argument. all of it. I even gave what I would consider to be good advice. I still think everything I said still applies. The only difference being, people will tune in to see your g/f in the nip.

I also can't tell if you are being serious when you say people are subscribing to see the story... They are tuning in because they want to see your gf in the nude.

Also, bare in mind when you critisize me, at the age of 27 I have already made 7 figures from what you are trying to achieve. Anyway, best of luck. this will be the last post in this thread of relative value
i wasn't offended, i just realized that you weren't putting any thought into your advice.

i'm not a "nobody" because i'm not just a dude with a girlfriend... i'm actually a photographer that provides content to very well known models and understand the space... i understand the constraints they have of putting out low quality filler content that hurts their brand value and i have seen a lot of mistakes that they have made, as well as what they could do to improve

also, i have a network of very good photographers that will shoot her for me (as Jen already has) and i have access to their social networks because they are my friends. that is a huge advantage that "nobody" wouldn't have...

i don't care if you think i'm a nobody, you just can't read the post, understand the space and then describe me that way. that's why i asked if you had any strategies for how you would attack the problems an IG model faces when trying to build a brand, which you didn't... so, you ignored all of the competitive advantages that i have and didn't give any thought to how you would work around the problems an IG model faces... and *then* you said a girl with a cell phone would do better which showed completely that you have no clue how to identify the weaknesses in an IG model's brand because that, specifically, is the main one
11-22-2016 , 03:08 AM
Interestingly, it seems like the hashtags that work the best are the ones that relate to the music festival world. I think that I'm going to rethink my narrative and incorporate more festival shots. I'm actually seeing a lot of engagement with women in that context and a lot of influencers (mostly musicians that have 8-15k followers, some more)
11-23-2016 , 11:49 PM
finishing up my first week live

i have 397 folders and I'm currently pinned on 26/30 hashtags i used on my post this morning. i'm pretty sure that with this mix of tags i should be getting over 100 likes on every post with the goal of moving to more aggressively tagged pics
11-24-2016 , 03:58 AM
If I wanted to look at naked women I would just go to redtube or some other free porn site.

What happens when your gf starts to age? Looks drop off FAST for a woman, and once they're gone, they're gone forever. Which means, the whole value of this project just went in the crapper.

I must be from the stone age, but I don't understand why people want to put so much effort into the social media game. You're doing all this work in a completely saturated marketplace and get no $ for it. What's the point?
11-24-2016 , 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
If I wanted to look at naked women I would just go to redtube or some other free porn site.

What happens when your gf starts to age? Looks drop off FAST for a woman, and once they're gone, they're gone forever. Which means, the whole value of this project just went in the crapper.

I must be from the stone age, but I don't understand why people want to put so much effort into the social media game. You're doing all this work in a completely saturated marketplace and get no $ for it. What's the point?
I'm a photographer and we travel to a lot of cool looking places... I am creating this content anyway, I just challenged myself with finding a way to turn that content into something valuable

this page isn't about looking at a naked woman... although there is a demographic that will be tuning in for that... IG models can make good money if they have real followers and control their brand quality while also putting out content consistently to engage their audience. for lifestyle advertising (which is *how* brands advertise successfully on IG) this platform is perfect because the whole thing is visually interesting / professionally shot candids punctuated by professional shoots that allude to a really interesting life. imagine cover girl wanting to advertise on IG and instead of an ad where she's doing her makeup i shoot her doing a photoshoot for cover girl with another photographer ... now the ad looks like all of my other pictures, it's just built into the narrative and doesn't jump out in an overly commercialized way. but my main target will be events and resorts. i'm going to travel a lot in 2017 because of photography work that i already do... if i shoot a concert and there are 13 people there i will find an angle that makes it look like the house was packed. i will do the same at a resort or an event with her as the subject but the scene being the ad. that is an extremely valuable platform to those brands and a way to do viral marketing.

my gf isn't a model... which makes her shots look a lot more sincere and that's very endearing to the type of viewer that follows a profile like this. whether there is a demand for this type of content is really not the question, it's just a matter of how to use it in the most efficient and profitable way

My level of engagement from women has been the most encouraging part of the project so far... I hoped that women would see her as kind of a comic book character and that seems to be the case so far.

i'm creating a *lot* of content... i can shoot her for at least 5 more years and create enough content to last me 10 years after that (although the ads will always have to be much more recent pics obviously) but she doesn't exercise and eats like a pig and can't gain weight so in nice light she will be photogenic for a long time

But the main exercise is in learning how to build something from nothing in a social media environment. if you can build an audience then you are set, it's the next evolution in our economy and it's already happening... yes, naked women are the easiest thing to build around but there are a *lot* of naked women out there... everything that i have outlined above is what makes this platform extremely valuable in a market that *is* saturated... but the reason that the market is saturated is because there is a TON of demand and if you can set yourself above the others you are riding a big wave.
11-24-2016 , 07:51 AM
There is a lot of fluff in this thread.

What have you achieved in the last 3 months (Since starting this thread)
What goals have you set yourself?
When do you want those goals achieved by?

Please answer these like you would if applying for a business loan. Do you have any figures? dates?
11-24-2016 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hoonist
but she doesn't exercise and eats like a pig and can't gain weight so in nice light she will be photogenic for a long time
Yup, you've found the key to looking good forever.
11-24-2016 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OFA
There is a lot of fluff in this thread.

What have you achieved in the last 3 months (Since starting this thread)
What goals have you set yourself?
When do you want those goals achieved by?

Please answer these like you would if applying for a business loan. Do you have any figures? dates?
I was finishing the race season and the shooting I have to do there until the last 3 week... but the entire time I have been creating content myself and / scheduling her shoots withe other photographers

I launched a week ago and have done no promoting to my personal network outside of a few friends

My process is outlined pretty well in my posts above and I think my goals are too but cliffs of that are I have researched hashtags a ton and story boarded the first 109 posts (takes me through about the end of the year)

In the first week we added ~400 followers... about 130 of those were an influx from Jennifer vaughn posting some pics on her page linking to us but the past 170 or so have come over the last 4 days all from hashtags (about 75%) and like/commenting on other people'say posts.
The quality of the followers and engagement has been pretty high in that they are more likely than not to have more followers than people that they are following (by a large margin on many accounts) a lot of these will have the ability to act as influencers for us... dj's and musicians that have significant followings (you can see on the most recent post the shootout I gave to one of the djs that commented on my previous post).

My goal is to get to 1k followers by the end of the month and to 3k by the end of December. Those are stretch goals but possible... I am whittling down the hashtags that I use to get more efficient results but have been adding a bottle 35 followers per day and I'm averaging well over 100 likes per post with my current recipe... I was pinned on 26 of my 30 hashtags yesterday and had the most ads I've seen so far in one day at 39

I think that by the end of December I can be seeing 100 followers per day but that is pretty much just a guess just based on estimating how much better I think I will be at hashtagging by then

Any followers added through promotions with other accounts or if I do any tagetted ads aren't accounted for I. These estimates

I don't plan on trying to monetize until I have at least 15k followers and at least 3 months of data
11-24-2016 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hoonist

My goal is to get to 1k followers by the end of the month and to 3k by the end of December. Those are stretch goals but possible... I am whittling down the hashtags that I use to get more efficient results but have been adding a bottle 35 followers per day and I'm averaging well over 100 likes per post with my current recipe... I was pinned on 26 of my 30 hashtags yesterday and had the most ads I've seen so far in one day at 39

I think that by the end of December I can be seeing 100 followers per day but that is pretty much just a guess just based on estimating how much better I think I will be at hashtagging by then

Any followers added through promotions with other accounts or if I do any tagetted ads aren't accounted for I. These estimates

I don't plan on trying to monetize until I have at least 15k followers and at least 3 months of data

I am wondering if you would get the same level of engagement if the photos were clothed? I am skeptical that any of these followers are interested in any of your story line or narrative as you put it or if they are just pervy men? Might be worth considering a series of clothed photos to test that theory. That will tell you if you have a legitimate account or just an account where blokes perv on your girlfriend.

I also think you it will be a bad idea to monetize at 15000. I dont know what the figure should be but I would guess several 100,000 before it would look like you are just trying to spam people?
11-24-2016 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OFA
There is a lot of fluff in this thread.

What have you achieved in the last 3 months (Since starting this thread)
What goals have you set yourself?
When do you want those goals achieved by?

Please answer these like you would if applying for a business loan. Do you have any figures? dates?
I was finishing the race season and the shooting I have to do there until the last 3 week... but the entire time I have been creating content myself and / scheduling her shoots withe other photographers

I launched a week ago and have done no promoting to my personal network outside of a few friends

My process is outlined pretty well in my posts above and I think my goals are too but cliffs of that are I have researched hashtags a ton and story boarded the first 109 posts (takes me through about the end of the year)

In the first week we added ~400 followers... about 130 of those were an influx from Jennifer vaughn posting some pics on her page linking to us but the past 170 or so have come over the last 4 days all from hashtags (about 75%) and like/commenting on other people'say posts.
The quality of the followers and engagement has been pretty high in that they are more likely than not to have more followers than people that they are following (by a large margin on many accounts) a lot of these will have the ability to act as influencers for us... dj's and musicians that have significant followings (you can see on the most recent post the shootout I gave to one of the djs that commented on my previous post).

My goal is to get to 1k followers by the end of the month and to 3k by the end of December. Those are stretch goals but possible... I am whittling down the hashtags that I use to get more efficient results but have been adding a bottle 35 followers per day and I'm averaging well over 100 likes per post with my current recipe... I was pinned on 26 of my 30 hashtags yesterday and had the most ads I've seen so far in one day at 39

I think that by the end of December I can be seeing 100 followers per day but that is pretty much just a guess just based on estimating how much better I think I will be at hashtagging by then

Any followers added through promotions with other accounts or if I do any tagetted ads aren't accounted for I. These estimates

I don't plan on trying to monetize until I have at least 15k followers and at least 3 months of data
11-24-2016 , 01:59 PM
bruh, you should get some repost from pages of tattooed girls... search what pages have a decent number of followers, press like, press like to some photos, make some comments, ask for some spam of your profile, privately or not.
11-25-2016 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by xplosiVxx
bruh, you should get some repost from pages of tattooed girls... search what pages have a decent number of followers, press like, press like to some photos, make some comments, ask for some spam of your profile, privately or not.
Yeah, I have had a tonice of musicians following with solid followings and was planning to ask for shout outs after I'm over 500 followers but I'll work on the tattoo pages as well, thanks
11-25-2016 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xplosiVxx
bruh, you should get some repost from pages of tattooed girls... search what pages have a decent number of followers, press like, press like to some photos, make some comments, ask for some spam of your profile, privately or not.
Yeah, I have had a tonice of musicians following with solid followings and was planning to ask for shout outs after I'm over 500 likes but I'll work on the tattoo pages as well, thanks
11-25-2016 , 08:28 PM
Over night I had to go on a 15 hours car ride with my dad so I spent all night liking posts and went from about 405 to 475 followers and at about 10am I found a page to do as suggested...

I did a paid post onto a large tattoor ig page... 8$ put a pic on 2 different sites having ~50k followers each. They used 2 different pics. Those pics right now have 740 and 880 likes respectively. As they were being liked I was following and each person while trying to like a few pics on each of their pages to encourage following back and as of right now I have 739 followers so this 8$ added ~250 so far. Excellent results but I was concerned that they might not engage in new content posts so I added a pic at about noon and the response was great

540 reach 255 engagement

So, I'm on my 10th day or so and getting 200+ likes per post and growing followers pretty rapidly. I need to filter out quite a few of the hashtags I have been using because now I'm spamming their pins and usually have more than 1 of my pics pinned on each feed. This might be difficult for me to do until I get back home because Internet is sketchy out here

Now I just have to go through and unfolllw all of the ones that didn't follow me back to get my ratio more appropriate.

My goal was to get to 1k followers by the end of the month and I feel good about that. Goal for end of December is to get to 5k... a stretch goal but i want something aggressive to shoot for.

      
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