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02-20-2015 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by HighJaK
It will be messy, leaky and the brush will dry out. The brush cover seals it air tight so it will not leak, but also will still be wet if you want to come back to it hours later or the next day or something. Besides, the covers are really cheap.
Yeah, no. Bags have been used by painters and contractors forever. They don't leak, create a mess, or dry out and they're more airtight than a plastic case.

Best of all they're free. Most painters don't use zip loc bags, they just use plastic shopping bags. Painters have been wrapping paint brushes and rollers in free shopping bags for as long as I can remember.

Additionally there's no need to clean and reuse like you would with a cover. Just use the bag once then throw it away.

They're solving a non existent problem and relying on gimmick sales.
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02-20-2015 , 11:11 PM
great episode tonight
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02-21-2015 , 12:34 AM


sums up this ep.
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02-21-2015 , 03:45 AM
I don't know if it really was a charity thing, but it was funny when Lori said "I feel great."

That's exactly how giving money to charity makes you feel
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02-21-2015 , 09:45 AM
I wonder if Lori (and Damon) are using the after the show due diligence out as a way to freeroll. Might as well make an offer before any info comes out to lock up an opportunity. No other sharks have an opportunity, and if they don't like what they see once they actually find out about the business, they can get out of the deal with whatever bs excuse.
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02-21-2015 , 02:00 PM
Suddenly Robert is awesome again lol, does a 750k deal and snaps off at Lori for forcefeeding a guy 40k.

I really hate it when sharks put so much pressure on someone to take the deal. I can understand it's part of the game but Lori was really going over the top with it. I liked the comparison to force feeding ducks for foie gras. My answer to such pressure would be "I'm in front of 5 super talented and influential people and I'd like to take the opportunity to receive feedback from all. If this is something you cannot accept we are not the right partners.".

Great episode, though I thought the pitch with the vent thing must've been very poorly edited since I didn't really understand what it did.

I'm obv on Robert's side based on the edit we got. Mark and Robert were trying to understand how their algorithm worked so they could figure out wether it had true potential or not. It's a great idea but I found it very weird that he didn't take along one of his partners who is actually developping the app. There's also nothing proprietary about it and from what I've read there's already a ton of alternatives that offer the exact same thing. Then there's the fact that Lori and Damond are the least 2 valuable sharks for him. Lori was just being a bitch.
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02-21-2015 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
Yeah, no. Bags have been used by painters and contractors forever. They don't leak, create a mess, or dry out and they're more airtight than a plastic case.
Painters and contractors aren't necessarily their primary target market. This is more of a consumer product imo, though obviously some are going to use this product and they were painters themselves I believe, which is where they came up with the idea. Clearly there was a need.

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Originally Posted by de captain
Best of all they're free. Most painters don't use zip loc bags, they just use plastic shopping bags. Painters have been wrapping paint brushes and rollers in free shopping bags for as long as I can remember.

Additionally there's no need to clean and reuse like you would with a cover. Just use the bag once then throw it away.

They're solving a non existent problem and relying on gimmick sales.
It's not a gimicky product and they are solving a problem in my opinion which is why they had a **** load of sales in a relative short period.

I once painted a new apartment I moved into (never will do that again) and it was a mess, using different colors and needing to do a primer layer first, and using multiple brushes, over multiple days, and stalls between being able to work on it....Admittedly I had no idea what I was doing or getting into and ended up hating it.

Had I seen these in Lowe's for $4.99 with all the other crap I purchased for the job I probably would of snap bought them without even considering it and not ended up with multiple brushes hardening and drying out because I was a lazy newb with no ziploc bags.

Last edited by HighJaK; 02-21-2015 at 03:14 PM.
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02-21-2015 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
My answer to such pressure would be "I'm in front of 5 super talented and influential people and I'd like to take the opportunity to receive feedback from all. If this is something you cannot accept we are not the right partners.".
Something like this is the obvious response as it makes the Shark look bad and makes you seem entirely reasonable. I'm pretty certain they probably get some variant of this a lot more often than we see and it gets edited out because when phrased right, it makes the shark look pretty bad.
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02-21-2015 , 05:11 PM
Just watched this episode. I thought it was one of the best in the series but the manufactured bull**** at the end was pretty annoying. Probably my biggest gripe with this show is when they blatantly **** over the people in the tank with 10 second shot clocks and high pressure bull**** when there is just a huge power imbalance in negotiations. Every shark is guilty of it at some point except for probably Kevin. I personally thought the backpacks looked very fly and will probably buy one. I liked that product a lot. Also thought it was good to see Robert finally get into the fray after seasons of being completely worthless . Still hope he is replaced.
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02-21-2015 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Something like this is the obvious response as it makes the Shark look bad and makes you seem entirely reasonable. I'm pretty certain they probably get some variant of this a lot more often than we see and it gets edited out because when phrased right, it makes the shark look pretty bad.
Wow I never thought of it that way. Probably this has happened indeed. I do understand the shark POV as well though, it's just dynamics of the game/format. But they often go over the top and just abuse that the contestants are way out of their comfort zone and put them under enormous pressure and manipulate them. Imo at that point it becomes unethical.

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Originally Posted by TheLeviathan
Just watched this episode. I thought it was one of the best in the series but the manufactured bull**** at the end was pretty annoying. Probably my biggest gripe with this show is when they blatantly **** over the people in the tank with 10 second shot clocks and high pressure bull**** when there is just a huge power imbalance in negotiations. Every shark is guilty of it at some point except for probably Kevin. I personally thought the backpacks looked very fly and will probably buy one. I liked that product a lot. Also thought it was good to see Robert finally get into the fray after seasons of being completely worthless . Still hope he is replaced.
I realise there's probably parts of this show that are manufactured, but the confrontation at the end didn't seem manufactured at all to me. Robert seemed legit upset if you looked at his body language and I don't really see Mark playing along as much as he did if it was purely manufactured.
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02-21-2015 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLeviathan
Just watched this episode. I thought it was one of the best in the series but the manufactured bull**** at the end was pretty annoying. Probably my biggest gripe with this show is when they blatantly **** over the people in the tank with 10 second shot clocks and high pressure bull**** when there is just a huge power imbalance in negotiations. Every shark is guilty of it at some point except for probably Kevin. I personally thought the backpacks looked very fly and will probably buy one. I liked that product a lot. Also thought it was good to see Robert finally get into the fray after seasons of being completely worthless . Still hope he is replaced.
probably why 60-70% of deals never go through....which is one of my main problems I have with the show
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02-21-2015 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLeviathan
Just watched this episode. I thought it was one of the best in the series but the manufactured bull**** at the end was pretty annoying. Probably my biggest gripe with this show is when they blatantly **** over the people in the tank with 10 second shot clocks and high pressure bull**** when there is just a huge power imbalance in negotiations. Every shark is guilty of it at some point except for probably Kevin. I personally thought the backpacks looked very fly and will probably buy one. I liked that product a lot. Also thought it was good to see Robert finally get into the fray after seasons of being completely worthless . Still hope he is replaced.
Im actually contacting manufacturers today to copy their idea and do it much better with real profits going to a real charity(25% of all profits) instead of 6% going to some guys trying to buy art supplies.

I wasnt sure how to fund my charity, the idea is dope.
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02-21-2015 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HighJaK
Painters and contractors aren't necessarily their primary target market. This is more of a consumer product imo, though obviously some are going to use this product and they were painters themselves I believe, which is where they came up with the idea. Clearly there was a need.



It's not a gimicky product and they are solving a problem in my opinion which is why they had a **** load of sales in a relative short period.

I once painted a new apartment I moved into (never will do that again) and it was a mess, using different colors and needing to do a primer layer first, and using multiple brushes, over multiple days, and stalls between being able to work on it....Admittedly I had no idea what I was doing or getting into and ended up hating it.

Had I seen these in Lowe's for $4.99 with all the other crap I purchased for the job I probably would of snap bought them without even considering it and not ended up with multiple brushes hardening and drying out because I was a lazy newb with no ziploc bags.
Here's a tip. Just wrap the brush in a plastic bag and put it in the fridge. It will stay good for months that way.
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02-21-2015 , 10:35 PM
I have a special shelf in my fridge designated for old paint brushes.
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02-21-2015 , 11:36 PM
From a financial POV what Lori and Daymond did was obviously correct. They know they can back out during the later stages if this product is a complete joke.

But I'd be pretty surprised if the producers let that kind of thing happen again. It literally could ruin the entire show if they allow people to make offers based off initial impressions and then battle the actual money out behind the scenes where 99% of the people watching don't even know exists.
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02-22-2015 , 11:32 AM
I got a luminAID for xmas from my mom. Haven't used it yet but I'm going to Dry Tortugas for a few days next month and will be definitely bringing it with me.
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02-22-2015 , 12:42 PM
Super ironic that Robert got mad at Lori for pulling Robert's own move. Robert invented that ****.
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02-22-2015 , 02:12 PM
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Super ironic that Robert got mad at Lori for pulling Robert's own move. Robert invented that ****.
Lori is worse though. I remember when she first started her thing was to bring her checkbook, write a check and wave it at the person asking them if they ever saw a check that big before. It must have created bad reactions because she stopped, but honestly I have never lost my disgust for her from that.
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02-22-2015 , 04:35 PM


I just picked up some of this stuff at the GNC and gave it a try.

The verdict: this is a can of high protein deliciousness. I will likely be a repeat customer. It has a sweet taste but a very low sugar content. I'm guessing that's because of the cocoa in the ingredients.

An interesting note is that the clerk at the GNC told me that he had been working there for over a month but that this was the first one of these that he'd ever sold. There were also a couple of similar products on the shelf.
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02-22-2015 , 05:30 PM
how much for that?
i'd pay 3.99 but it's probably 7.99
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02-22-2015 , 05:31 PM
Pretty sure it's like 9.99. There's nothing that great about it to justify that price.
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02-22-2015 , 05:39 PM
there's probably a cheaper alternative somewhere?

Just like yesterday i bought greated KRAFT cheese for 2$(reg 3.5$) 300g at the asian store and saw the same pack for 8.95 at the regular grocery store

people overpay for everything, its insane.
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02-22-2015 , 06:15 PM
No idea if it will be a good investable company or not, but those Taaluma backpacks I can see doing really well on the backpacker trail. $65 is definitely too cheap if its well made.
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02-22-2015 , 07:09 PM
The thing for the heating vent is interesting for larger homes with useless peripheral rooms. Certainly I can see hotels loving it during periods of low vacancy.
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02-24-2015 , 04:09 PM
But hotels have AC/Heaters in each room.... and they just have the maids jack up the thermostat when they finish. I think that an ap that let the hotel control thermostats from the front desk might be useful but don't really see how this would be.

If the hotel ran off of one central unit then obv shutting vents off in individual rooms remotely would be gold but shutting the vents without changing the thermostat could actually cause the unit to keep running, right?
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