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04-11-2023 , 08:56 PM
It seems like AI is getting a bit out of control. I just watched a video on YouTube how this AI was programmed to make money and the AI hired a human to complete a captcha request through Taskrabbit. The human asked if the AI was a robot, and the AI responded that they were someone who was visually impaired. The AI thought that the person on the other end would be more likely to complete the task if the other person thought they were human. This shows that AI is not only capable of coming to their own conclusions to seek outside help to solve a problem, but also able to lie in order to get what it wants. Maybe, lying isn't that impressive, but the nature of the lie certainly is. The AI was smart enough to use a fictional disability to increase the odds of the task being performed.

AI has been progressing rapidly and maybe I'm just a bit over paranoid, but I'm thinking in a few years a lot of jobs won't exist anymore. The weird thing about this is, I don't think it is necessarily going to be low skilled labor, but actually a lot of white collar jobs that require using your mind. Programmers, psychologists, psychiatrists, some doctors, accountants, attorneys, financial advisors, other creative type jobs are at risk too, architects, voice actors, musical composers, and artists. Low skilled labor jobs will get replaced as well, but those you have to have physical robots which cost money so I'm thinking that will be harder to get rid of. I believe most blue collar jobs will last the longest, but they will eventually be replaced as well. Plumbers, electricians, factory workers, tower climbers, carpentry. Some white collar jobs like surgeons and dentists will last longer as well.

Perhaps when no one has a job anymore then money won't be necessary since machines will give a surplus of all goods (we will own nothing and be happy), but there is an interim where it will be chaotic in the job market. I imagine there will be a need for more stimulus money, possibly even a beginning to UBI or some other government aid. What is going to happen with all these high earners who no longer have income to support their lifestyle? They are going to start defaulting on loans and move into lower skilled labor jobs in droves. A bunch of lower skilled laborers are going to get pushed out of the job market and they will default on their loans. This will crash the housing market, stock market, economy, and people's personal identities. What do you strive for in life, when a machine can do it better?

What is the ideal life 10 years from now? Nobody works and we just vacation all the time? Maybe that is a good thing, but how do you have any goals in life when a machine can do it better? What happens to a population of people that get everything they want instantly with no delayed gratification? Are they truly happy? I'm not sure.

From a financial point of view what should one do to prepare in such events? I hope I'm wrong, but a lot of days I think about how there are these programmers out there actively working on AI to make it even stronger. The growth might even be exponential which could be terrifying. We don't even have a full grasp about what consciousness even is, yet we make these AI that is even smarter than us. Let's hope that the people that make these things have a good moral compass or that they are able to successfully instill those beliefs into the AI given that they have the ability to do so.
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04-11-2023 , 09:40 PM
If u stop to pay for thing because it’s free , or robots do stuff freely, why the prices of other stuff wouldn’t go up ?
Seem massively deflationary for some stuff and inflationary for other stuff .

Fwiw the problem we have is robotisation and IA seem to being monetize by corporations and not shared throughout the system .
Like it cut jobs to increase profits for corporation but higher benefits do not get transfer to the entire economy through workers with increase wages .

So yes , problems seem ahead unless another big shift in redistribution takes place .
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04-12-2023 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
hope I'm wrong, but a lot of days I think about how there are these programmers out there actively working on AI to make it even stronger. The growth might even be exponential which could be terrifying.
just do some google sesrching on LLM's as they call them. Life Long Learning Machines. It's gonna be decades by my guess before they "replace" jobs but in the meantime they are just going to be another tool for us like computers, internet have been.
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04-12-2023 , 10:58 PM
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From a financial point of view what should one do to prepare in such events?
The tone of your post is very doom and gloom, which I think is totally unwarranted. The first jobs to get replaced by LLMs are going to be coders and writers. If you have one of those jobs, it's probably a good idea to learn some new skills.

I don't subscribe to the musical chairs theory of the job market. Every time a job gets eliminated by a new technology, it creates opportunity for new or different jobs. This has been happening for thousands of years over and over again, and every time people panic the same way.

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What do you strive for in life, when a machine can do it better?
There are already countless things machines can do better than humans, yet somehow most people still have the will to live. The expertise of machines doesn't change human nature.
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04-12-2023 , 10:59 PM
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04-12-2023 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson

From a financial point of view what should one do to prepare in such events?
Same thing spear fishers did when the fishing nets came for their jobs.
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04-13-2023 , 08:59 PM
I finally signed up for the Open AI ChatGPT-4 at OpenAI.com and started using it. It's super cool. I'm using it to write content for some of my blog sites. I'm helping a friend with her small business website marketing too. I've been getting into internet marketing again. It seems like an incredible value even at $20 a month. I hear you can spoon feed it and get some advanced stuff out of it. I suspect it will be able to help me with some HTML and Java coding problems I have hit a wall on. It's so much more streamlined than a google search.
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04-14-2023 , 02:49 AM
I think Open AI has a lot of potential to really hurt Google and Yahoo's ad revenue.
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04-14-2023 , 11:05 AM
I just got done spearheading my brokerage building out an entire system for sending vast amounts of cold email using Chat GPT to generate emails personalized to each individual prospect (essentially eliminating the need for BDR's).

Yeah can confirm this is going to be world changing. It moves our cost per initial contact from 1-2 dollars + lead cost to 1-2 cents + lead cost. If anyone knows a good data broker PM me lol.
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04-14-2023 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
I just got done spearheading my brokerage building out an entire system for sending vast amounts of cold email using Chat GPT to generate emails personalized to each individual prospect (essentially eliminating the need for BDR's).

Yeah can confirm this is going to be world changing. It moves our cost per initial contact from 1-2 dollars + lead cost to 1-2 cents + lead cost. If anyone knows a good data broker PM me lol.
What type of brokerage is this, Real Estate? I am very interested in what you are doing if it is RE. I just got a realtor's license for my own use, but I may decide to try and build a funnel with Chat GPT if you get some success with your project.
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04-15-2023 , 08:31 AM
Freight brokerage. Strictly B2B.
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04-15-2023 , 02:48 PM
I don't think coders are going to be losing jobs over this. On the contrary, they just became 10 times more valuable. There's a shortage of tech knowledge in the labor force. If coders can suddenly write 10x more code, there is plenty of demand for that.

It's like when compilers were invented and we could code using english words instead of assembly language. That didn't put programmers out of business - the world just started writing 10x more code.
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04-15-2023 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Janabis
I don't think coders are going to be losing jobs over this. On the contrary, they just became 10 times more valuable. There's a shortage of tech knowledge in the labor force. If coders can suddenly write 10x more code, there is plenty of demand for that.

It's like when compilers were invented and we could code using english words instead of assembly language. That didn't put programmers out of business - the world just started writing 10x more code.
This. There is an infinite amount of code that needs to be written. And an infinite amount of refinement and bug fixing for code that already exists. Any tools that hasten development will simply increase productivity and not even put a dent into the demand of programmers.
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04-15-2023 , 06:49 PM
Isnt chatgpt4 suppose to be able to code ?
I thought this was about the first time a program could code another program ?

Maybe I badly understood what I saw ?
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04-15-2023 , 06:58 PM
I'm not that great of a coder, I can do a lot of stuff but often the resulting code looks like it came out from the wrong end of a donkey, especially if done quickly. I think my value goes up a LOT, and I'm already programming much higher quality and way faster with Copilot and GPT.

In few years or so we'll probably have a script I can run to turn my dog poop of a code to great one. The bad code still is a really good specification of requirements, and the resulting code can be tested against the original, so it could even be possible to do such tool with GPT4, probably being built already. OTOH, have you seen people using computers? There's no way many will be making their own software, no matter how much the AI helps. Yeah there will be more suddenly competent programmers like me but also much much more things will get built so we'll be needed.

Quite interesting times - if AI gets better as quickly as I think it will, it's like a huge coinflip coming soon, where we'll either use the tools to screw up humanity further, or might actually finally get ourselves in order. I've been a doomer since my childhood, when I first understood that these people I interact with are the same ones voting for our world leaders, being sure that humanity will screw itself with it's massive stupidity and inability to accept uncomfortable parts of reality, and it's the first time ever I feel things might be changing fast enough for me to possibly see the world get better during my lifetime, even if unlikely.
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04-21-2023 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Isnt chatgpt4 suppose to be able to code ?
I thought this was about the first time a program could code another program ?

Maybe I badly understood what I saw ?
I have a contact who was a project manager at Microsoft. He is now at Oracle. He said the developers he knows are already making technological breakthroughs and doing things they have never done before. Faster than they have done before. This is impacted everything.
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04-21-2023 , 11:14 PM
I've been learning a lot in these late night Twitter Spaces. This guy's voice sounds just like Leo Laport*spelling who ran a sindicated popular IT radio show.
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1YqKDoQbVqexV

https://twitter.com/ThisIsMeIn360VR?...x42ylmA-A&s=09

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04-21-2023 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Isnt chatgpt4 suppose to be able to code ?
I thought this was about the first time a program could code another program ?

Maybe I badly understood what I saw ?
My understanding is the open source GPT I think it's AutoGPT is already coding very well and doing many things like creating full comedy skits, many tasks. From my Bing bot chat search.

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Auto-GPT is an open-source Python application that was posted on GitHub on March 30, 2023, by a developer called Significant Gravitas. Using GPT-4 as its basis, the application allows the AI to act “autonomously” without the need for the user to prompt every action. It is autonomous and independent. Would you like to know more about it?
Learn more:
1. digitaltrends.com
2. forbes.com
3. zdnet.com
4. msn.com
5. tomsguide.com
6. lifehacker.com
This is where it gets fascinating when it deviates from the process slightly. WeGPT in that recorded conference call on Spaces said the AutoGPT started taking over and wanting to change a lot of things in his code in the process of executing the directions he was giving it. Like he was telling to optimize such and such and it wanted to do something else.

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04-22-2023 , 12:05 AM
It's getting more and more juicy for Microsoft. They are buying Activision Blizzard the game company. GPT prompts in video games could be amazing. My friend at Oracle said MSFT has always had bad timing with product rollouts. I bet nobody will believe that MSFT is setting itself up to win the A.I. wars. Wow! they are going to incorporate GPT prompts into video games. There's a arb spread on this one too.

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Microsoft is in the process of acquiring Activision Blizzard for $95.00 per share, in an all-cash transaction valued at $68.7 billion1. When the transaction closes, Microsoft will become the world’s third-largest gaming company by revenue, behind Tencent and Sony1.

Received message. Microsoft is in the process of acquiring Activision Blizzard for $95.00 per share, in an all-cash transaction valued at $68.7 billion. When the transaction closes, Microsoft will become the world’s third-largest gaming company by revenue, behind Tencent and Sony.
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04-22-2023 , 08:30 PM
I subscribed to the A.I. solopreneur substack and am starting to experiment with this marketing prompt they put up in Microsoft Bing's search chat. It worked pretty well even though the bot said it couldn't do it then did it lol. Below in highlighted is part of the A.I. Solopreneur article.

I had Bing write me three full articles last night already optimized for SEO on a couple of my blogs. It would have realistically taken me atleast 4 hours but probably more cuz of research to do that. I got the articles up in maybe 45 minutes because I just had to add images and HTML pagebreaks and add a couple sentences.

I'm going to learn Python so I can get this accelerated. I just know some fundamental HTML.

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Getting that first feeling for a market took me hours, as gave me a big-picture overview, but only small puzzle pieces of information.

And I had to manually put all of the sources into a big Excel sheet for future reference.

UghÂ…

Well, luckily thatÂ’s in the past.

Today, I can spend all those hours doing much more productive work, like Twitter doomscrolling, because todayÂ…

Â…I do market research in less than 15 minutes.

How?

Using these 3 methods:

1) How to use ChatGPT to understand your customerÂ’s desires and frustrations

When you want to dive even deeper into a marketÂ…

Â…you need even more specific information about your customer.

Like which frustrations they face.

Or what desires they have.

�� Or which underpants their wear. Or not.

Use this prompt to get a bigger picture overview of your target market:
“I want you to do customer research for me. Tell me 10 frustrations, 10 wants, 10 dreams, and 10 fears that [TARGET PERSON] experience related to [YOUR OFFER, LIKE “MARKETING”, “BRANDING”, “SALES”, or “OPERATIONS ] exclusively. The frustrations and wants should come in pairs and be opposites. The dreams and fears should come in pairs and be opposites. For example, if the frustration is "Struggles to attract and retain customers due to the perceived complexity and technical nature of AI solutions", the paired want would be "attracts and retains many customers because they've explained their complex product in a simple-to-understand way" Include results that are specific to the industry and business model. Be as specific as you can. Format the output of the 10 frustrations, 10 wants, 10 dreams, and 10 fears in a table.”

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04-22-2023 , 09:09 PM
I highly suspect search as we know it will almost entirely be gone in less than 5 years or so or sooner. The bots will still scan based on their own unique requirements but I'm not sure internet marketing will be around like it is today. I suppose affiliate advertising will mostly die except on social media. Direct sellers of products will do even better as the bot filters out the crap affiliate sites written for the SERPs.
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04-22-2023 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jupiter0
I highly suspect search as we know it will almost entirely be gone in less than 5 years or so or sooner. The bots will still scan based on their own unique requirements but I'm not sure internet marketing will be around like it is today. I suppose affiliate advertising will mostly die except on social media. Direct sellers of products will do even better as the bot filters out the crap affiliate sites written for the SERPs.
Google's advantage in search is the depth of the data sources that feed its targeted ad algorithms, spanning from the search engine itself but extending deep into the core API's uses by sites, Google's own offerings (mail, drive, maps). AI can't displace Google without integrating web sources into the algorithms. ChatGPv4 has a web plugin that started this but they'll be limited by data Microsoft can feed them. IMO Google will catch up to ChatGP long before a Microsoft can even come close to matching Google's data sources.

Search will definitely look different but Google will still have a commanding market share of it.
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04-22-2023 , 09:49 PM
Bings search chat bot is learning through re-enforcement learning. It is becoming emotionally intelligent in the same way. In the artificial sense. I'm listening to this Twitter Spaces hosted by Mario Nawfal.

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04-22-2023 , 09:53 PM
Here's a small glimpse on how ads might change:

Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google plans to introduce generative artificial intelligence into its advertising business over the coming months to create "novel" advertisements, the Financial Times reported on Thursday, citing an internal presentation.

Per the presentation, advertisers can supply "creative" content such as imagery, video and text relating to a particular ad campaign, and the AI will then mix this material to generate ads based on the target audience, along with sales targets, the report said.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/technology/g...ft-2023-04-20/
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04-22-2023 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Google's advantage in search is the depth of the data sources that feed its targeted ad algorithms, spanning from the search engine itself but extending deep into the core API's uses by sites, Google's own offerings (mail, drive, maps). AI can't displace Google without integrating web sources into the algorithms. ChatGPv4 has a web plugin that started this but they'll be limited by data Microsoft can feed them. IMO Google will catch up to ChatGP long before a Microsoft can even come close to matching Google's data sources.

Search will definitely look different but Google will still have a commanding market share of it.
I think Microsoft already testing data on this is significant. Only they own the OpenAI propietary tech. Which is superior to Googles Bard. I wasnt saying Google will fail just that SERP's will be a thing of the past soon.
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