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08-08-2015 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
yim

I would at least try to maximize growth with that 55k in some short term holding. CDs are going to be better than a savings acct I'm sure. what's your current interest rate on that savings acct?
My interest rate is currently .15%. I started looking into CDs, thanks. Since I'm not sure when I will need this money it seems like a staggered approach would be best?
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08-08-2015 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yimc17
My interest rate is currently .15%. I started looking into CDs, thanks. Since I'm not sure when I will need this money it seems like a staggered approach would be best?
There are plenty of online banks with about 1% savings account rates. At a minimum, move the funds to the 1% savings.

If you're really not sure about using the money, yeah I'd probably build a ladder. Look online for the best CD rates (online banks or local credit unions probably the best).
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08-09-2015 , 09:49 PM
Hi all-- thanks for the help.

Country: USA
Income: $73,100 salary + $3,000 bonus
Risk Tolerance: Low
Timeframe for investment: 3-6 years
Debt: None

I have about $10,000 to invest with the goal of eventually having $100,000 in 3-6 years for a down payment on a house. I can probably put away another $1k to $1.5k monthly. I currently am maxing my Roth IRA and have maybe 18k in stock's and ETF's, and 25k in retirement accounts.

The initial $10k cash plus $1k monthly-- any suggestions on where to invest that? Should I potentially re-allocate the stocks/ETF's to a lower risk investment? I'm hoping it's not too unreasonable to still have stock exposure when I expect an $80k-$100k down payment in 3 to 6 years.
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08-09-2015 , 10:02 PM
Will your income increase significantly in the future? Are you single or expecting to be married to a current GF within that time frame?

I couldn't imagine buying a $400-500k house on a $75k salary unless you expect that salary to significantly increase or it will be shared with a wife who also earns. Also, if you're serious about buying I personally wouldn't be seeking much, if any stock exposure.
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08-10-2015 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Israf3l
The initial $10k cash plus $1k monthly-- any suggestions on where to invest that?
My opinion may differ from the consensus of the board, but my advice would be to have some stock component for this money.
This calculator http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator...calculator.htm

tells me that $10,000 with a $12000 annual addition compounds to ~$85,000 @ 6% over 5 years. If we earn 1% over that 5 years, we have just over $72,000.

I would strive for that 6% return by using the Vanguard LifeStrategy Conservative Growth fund, which is 40% stock and 60% bonds.
The obvious downside to this strategy is you may end up with substantially less than $72000 at the end of 5 years if the market goes bad.
I'm sure people will point out that we are in the midst of a 7 year bull market that is bound to drop, but they were pointing that out 4 years ago as well. You will have some DCA protection by purchasing monthly over the next 5 years.
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08-10-2015 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ike
Country: American, currently living in Malta, possibly moving to Canada in the near future
Income: highly variable, maybe 500k/yr
Risk Tolerance: high
Timeframe: some long term, some short
Debt: None
Current Investments: No traditional financial investments. Various staking deals and other gambling "investments."
Age: 30

I've always used my poker bankroll pretty aggressively and not really taken any money out of it apart from living expenses. After a few good years and with the availability of very high stakes online diminishing, I think I'm finally in a position to start pulling money out of my active bankroll and setting it aside for investments.

I'm looking for advice on two separate things:

1. Something long term to do with a mid six figure amount. Leading candidates right now are Vanguard funds or something like Betterment/Wealthfront.

2. Somewhere better than a savings account to park money that I'd still consider part of my active poker bankroll. This would need to be very liquid. I'd want to be able to access it in no more than a week or so.

It would be a big plus if free/cheap currency conversion were built into this. In an ideal world I'd like to be able to deposit to and withdraw from this investment/account in any major currency. If that's not doable, being able to hold multiple balances in various currencies would be good too.
If I were you I'd put most everything into a low cost balanced portfolio. Vanguard is great for this.

When you need to add to your roll you can sell whatever has gone up, which will move you back towards your target allocation. You should be able to sell and transfer in just over a week. Sales take 3-4 business days to clear and then another 3-4 days for a transfer.

A lot of people recommend putting anything you may need soon in super-safe investments. IMO if you have a reasonable cushion then you are better off in the long term just having everything, including your 'emergency fund', in a balanced portfolio allocation. A balanced portfolio is going to have better long-term returns than super-safe assets. It will also have bigger swings of course. As long as you have enough cushion so you still have plenty of assets when things are swinging down then you will come out better on average if you are more often in the higher return allocation.

If your income is correlated with market swings then it would make sense to be more cautious. If you expect to be making less, and more likely to be drawing down your assets, when the market goes down then it might make sense to be more cautious.


You might also consider sharing liquidity with other players that you trust. You likely have a very good reputation and could borrow from others to cover short term bankroll needs. I'm sure you realize this already. 8) This would help you avoid selling, and thus avoid some taxes, if you end up coming out ahead and don't need more poker bankroll after all.
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08-10-2015 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ike
[redacted text] This would need to be very liquid. I'd want to be able to access it in no more than a week or so.
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Originally Posted by Rant
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When you need to add to your roll you can sell whatever has gone up, which will move you back towards your target allocation. You should be able to sell and transfer in just over a week. Sales take 3-4 business days to clear and then another 3-4 days for a transfer.

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But if you sell the ones that went up, then you'll have income tax to pay on it. I wouldn't suggest purposefully selling the ones that will cause you to recognize gain and, therefore, have income tax to pay. If you have losses available to be used against the gain, then sure sell the ones with gain, but other than that I wouldn't suggest selling exclusively the ones with gain in the event that some liquid funds are needed for poker.



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Oh, I guess you were considering a one fund portfolio where the fund is very diversified inside itself and, therefore, there wouldn't be different funds to choose between when needing to sell for liquidity.

Last edited by Lego05; 08-10-2015 at 07:27 PM.
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08-10-2015 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LT22
Will your income increase significantly in the future? Are you single or expecting to be married to a current GF within that time frame?

I couldn't imagine buying a $400-500k house on a $75k salary unless you expect that salary to significantly increase or it will be shared with a wife who also earns. Also, if you're serious about buying I personally wouldn't be seeking much, if any stock exposure.
That is an excellent point. Sorry, I neglected to mention the $400k-$500k range is contingent on me purchasing a home with my current gf, who is a PhD candidate and will be graduating in that timeframe. I would expect our combined income to be $160k-$200k before tax. She doesn't make much now, so I'm doing all the saving.

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Originally Posted by unfrgvn
My opinion may differ from the consensus of the board, but my advice would be to have some stock component for this money.
This calculator http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator...calculator.htm

tells me that $10,000 with a $12000 annual addition compounds to ~$85,000 @ 6% over 5 years. If we earn 1% over that 5 years, we have just over $72,000.

I would strive for that 6% return by using the Vanguard LifeStrategy Conservative Growth fund, which is 40% stock and 60% bonds.
The obvious downside to this strategy is you may end up with substantially less than $72000 at the end of 5 years if the market goes bad.
I'm sure people will point out that we are in the midst of a 7 year bull market that is bound to drop, but they were pointing that out 4 years ago as well. You will have some DCA protection by purchasing monthly over the next 5 years.
Perfect, I love Vanguard funds because of the low fees, so I may consider allocating some money to this. I would prefer not to go 100% bonds-- I'd rather take some risk at needing to purchase a less expensive home. I don't need the $400k-$500k range, but it's a nice goal to save for.
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08-11-2015 , 05:18 AM
you should buy stocks tesla
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08-11-2015 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
But if you sell the ones that went up, then you'll have income tax to pay on it. I wouldn't suggest purposefully selling the ones that will cause you to recognize gain and, therefore, have income tax to pay. If you have losses available to be used against the gain, then sure sell the ones with gain, but other than that I wouldn't suggest selling exclusively the ones with gain in the event that some liquid funds are needed for poker.
It is going to be awfully hard to maintain an asset allocation if you mostly sell your losses. 8)

I would suggest using withdrawals as rebalancing opportunities and also tax loss harvesting as a separate thing.
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08-17-2015 , 05:50 AM
Hi Guys, Just a quick question, what broker / website would you recommend for a European Investor looking to put small money into an Index fund (roughly 5k) ?
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08-17-2015 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Poncheezied
Country: UK
Income:From poker variable roughly £25k (conservative)
Risk Tolerance: Low
Timeframe: Long
Debt: £20k student loan
Current Investments: none
Age: 27

So I've got £20k of student debt still which I've never started paying because of playing poker for a living which I am still doing. Should I start paying that off voluntarily or think about that when I do get a taxable income? I own my home and have no other debt. I also have low living expenses/lifestyle.

I'm just lost as to how to make the most of my savings (£40k). I read that I should buy assets and invest but I have no idea how to go about it other than saving up to buy some rental property or land.
Did I make any mistakes in my OP or is this just not a situation where I could consider investing? Really appreciate any advice. Thanks
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08-20-2015 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncheezied
Did I make any mistakes in my OP or is this just not a situation where I could consider investing? Really appreciate any advice. Thanks
I normally would offer some advice, but being as you are in the UK it makes it harder, because there may be special situations I know nothing about.
Is the student loan accruing interest? With a low unstable income you aren't really in a good spot to invest in anything outside of really short term safe investments, which basically pay nothing.
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08-24-2015 , 12:25 PM
If you were in my spot at age 46 and had $10k - what would you do right now?

a) Pay down some equity on my mortgage to get it closer to 20% so I can drop BMI - also cut years off the life of the loan.

b) Go long oil - something like XOM.

c) Other?
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08-24-2015 , 12:36 PM
How much do you already have in retirement savings? Excluding equity in home.
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08-24-2015 , 12:36 PM
$120k in a 401k.

I do have an idea to buy another place maybe in the next 5 years and rent this place out.

Also if I was going to invest what's a good cheap online brokerage? I heard Ameritrade was basically down for a while this morning.
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08-24-2015 , 02:15 PM
I'm thinking home equity definitely makes the most sense at least until I can over the threshold to get rid of BMI. That's $150/month, guaranteed $1800 return.
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08-24-2015 , 03:06 PM
Can't go wrong with Vanguard, they have really good fees. Especially on Admiral Shares.
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08-24-2015 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I'm thinking home equity definitely makes the most sense at least until I can over the threshold to get rid of BMI. That's $150/month, guaranteed $1800 return.
No brainer.
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08-25-2015 , 04:41 AM
Saving up for home downpaymemt.

Currently holding funds in .99% savings account.

Timeframe is 9 months, any thoughts on a better place to stash funds?
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08-25-2015 , 05:50 AM
Welp, wishing i spread out my Roth contributions for 2015 rather than lump sum contribution in February!
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08-25-2015 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
If you were in my spot at age 46 and had $10k - what would you do right now?

a) Pay down some equity on my mortgage to get it closer to 20% so I can drop BMI - also cut years off the life of the loan.

b) Go long oil - something like XOM.

c) Other?
Are you sure you can get rid of PMI? The last couple of loans I have applied for had to be refinanced to get rid of it if I recall correctly.


LOL at option b)
Markets are reasonably efficient IMO.
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08-25-2015 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Saving up for home downpaymemt.

Currently holding funds in .99% savings account.

Timeframe is 9 months, any thoughts on a better place to stash funds?
I don't know anything better.
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08-25-2015 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Saving up for home downpaymemt.

Currently holding funds in .99% savings account.

Timeframe is 9 months, any thoughts on a better place to stash funds?
Where do you live?
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08-25-2015 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rant
Are you sure you can get rid of PMI? The last couple of loans I have applied for had to be refinanced to get rid of it if I recall correctly.
I've heard you can get rid of it if you get comfortably over 20% equity. If not I will refi.

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LOL at option b)
Markets are reasonably efficient IMO.
Then why ever invest in anything other than S&P index fund?
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