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09-21-2011 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tetsuya
Thanks, cwar. We have a very full site with a variety of content, so we wouldn't simply just have a blog on our site and what I meant by wondering about the customization possible with just using an external blogging format is could we make it look and function the same as the rest of our site. Maybe you were able to gather that from what I said, but if I wasn't clear would you still say WP is fully customizable? Thanks.
I mean Wordpress may be your best option. Wordpress is a blogging CMS if that doesn't fit maybe look around. I am mostly into ecommerce so I am mostly familiar with zencart and Magento. I think Drupal and Joomla could be other options. You should realize that all of these have lots of custom plugins you can use to expand them and you can code your own to expand it beyond what currently exists. You could turn Wordpress into a massive ecommerce CMS, is that practical? Probably not but it depends.

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09-21-2011 , 11:03 PM
hey guys, I could use some feedback http://www.d3expert.com/

cms is joomla 1.5 and it's basically the first site I ever made.

thanks
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09-22-2011 , 12:11 AM
I'm not a huge fan of the dark themes but I think its alright because it matches your site's topic. For a first site, it looks very put together IMO. Only thing that I noticed in a quick look around is that having the media box or whatever it's called at the top of every section page obscures your content. It's fine for the home page, but on my screen (1280x800) all you see when you click one of the sections is the header, menu, ad and media box. It would be nice to see some relevant content above the fold.
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09-22-2011 , 12:26 AM
Interesting thread.

I'm in the website business myself, and so far this year I've sold two 5 figure sites. From startup to selling of the sites were aprox. 1 month on both of them.

It's definitely a very exciting business to be in!
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09-22-2011 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Robusto
Interesting thread.

I'm in the website business myself, and so far this year I've sold two 5 figure sites. From startup to selling of the sites were aprox. 1 month on both of them.

It's definitely a very exciting business to be in!
Wow, that's really fast. Do you mind divulging what your background is, and what type of sites they were? It seems like it would be hard to accomplish this if it were simply an articled based informational resource, but maybe your sites had some applications you developed?
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09-22-2011 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by alex23
Wow, that's really fast. Do you mind divulging what your background is, and what type of sites they were? It seems like it would be hard to accomplish this if it were simply an articled based informational resource, but maybe your sites had some applications you developed?
I'm more interested in the ROI/starting capital on his sites.
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09-22-2011 , 09:33 AM
Me too
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09-22-2011 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rak
hey guys, I could use some feedback http://www.d3expert.com/

cms is joomla 1.5 and it's basically the first site I ever made.

thanks
I like your site. I think it looks really good (especially for your first time). It strikes me as something I've seen as official developer pages for other games in that genre
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09-22-2011 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alex23
Wow, that's really fast. Do you mind divulging what your background is, and what type of sites they were? It seems like it would be hard to accomplish this if it were simply an articled based informational resource, but maybe your sites had some applications you developed?
I've been into webdesign+graphics for the past 10 years and have in that time had over 100 websites (fair estimate). Everything from Counterstrike clan sites (lol, young days) to social community portals and affiliate websites.

The sites I did here was basically an idea I caught from Flippa.com I saw a site of that market being sold for 100k and it seemed quite like a product I could somehow replicate (a product selling site, not aff. site). I developed my own product in the same market as that one, only better (imo) and started marketing the site by Adwords. The Adwords roi was around 300-500% from day 1 when I launched. The market for the product is totally open. Closest thing I can compare it to, would be an ebook-instructional. I can't really say more at this point without giving away too much.

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I'm more interested in the ROI/starting capital on his sites.
ROI as mentioned between 300-500% on google adwords. Capital for startup was a domain+hosting. The website i developed myself, as well as the product which took me about 1 week (because im lazy, and I wanted to do it nice, so didn't rush it). It can be done in 1 day as well if you are a work-o-holic.

Cliffs:
Buy domain + hosting
Create website for e-product selling (High converting sales-page layout)
Write e-book product
Configure an Adwords campaign
Let it run for 2-4 weeks and show a great profit
Sell
Rinse and repeat.
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09-22-2011 , 01:27 PM
Sick. That's a model I've read a bit about and quite fancy.

so you're selling them for what ~6 months income? with a 300-500% roi, why not just keep the site/campaigns running? do you mention on flippa the traffic is from adwords? do you include campaign details with the sale?
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09-22-2011 , 02:41 PM
Hi guys got my site up and running still a couple of things i need to tweak, any suggestion?

http://www.footballfantasytips.com/

Looking at some of the recent post would my best chance of making money selling the information on the site as an ebook? What kind of returns can i expect on a dite like this if i want down the google adsense road? Thanks for any help

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09-22-2011 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Sick. That's a model I've read a bit about and quite fancy.

so you're selling them for what ~6 months income? with a 300-500% roi, why not just keep the site/campaigns running? do you mention on flippa the traffic is from adwords? do you include campaign details with the sale?
Yeah something along those lines.

I'd rather have the cash injection immediately to work on other things instead. As mentioned, it is really easy for me to create a new product similar (without going in competition with the previous sites), and get earnings from that again.

Yes the campaign details are of ocurse included
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09-22-2011 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ceire
Hi guys got my site up and running still a couple of things i need to tweak, any suggestion?

http://www.footballfantasytips.com/

Looking at some of the recent post would my best chance of making money selling the information on the site as an ebook? What kind of returns can i expect on a dite like this if i want down the google adsense road? Thanks for any help
I'm not a huge fan of the template in general due to the wasted space on the left side of the content area. Also, I don't really like having the slideshow on every page but that's just my personal preference.

Obviously the header area needs to be re-sized (#access margin-top) and a custom logo image would help to give it personality. You should probably also crop your images (at least the one on the front page).

I would rather see it have a magazine style theme with larger/more space for advertisements.

Overall though I think it's a decent start.

As far as adsense goes... you might be better off focusing on affiliate programs like bet365. I haven't done any type of research to know for sure but it's probably worth comparing the two options.
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09-23-2011 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mdm13
I'm not a huge fan of the dark themes but I think its alright because it matches your site's topic. For a first site, it looks very put together IMO. Only thing that I noticed in a quick look around is that having the media box or whatever it's called at the top of every section page obscures your content. It's fine for the home page, but on my screen (1280x800) all you see when you click one of the sections is the header, menu, ad and media box. It would be nice to see some relevant content above the fold.
Thanks for pointing that out, I actually did not test the site with screen resolutions other than my own (1920x1200). Anyways the showcase part is now visible on the frontpage only.

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Originally Posted by Loss Tee
I like your site. I think it looks really good (especially for your first time). It strikes me as something I've seen as official developer pages for other games in that genre
Thanks man!
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09-24-2011 , 02:57 PM
Hey guys,

Started my first website about two weeks ago, mostly been busy with content creation and a few backlinks. Now I'd like to focus a bit more on getting backlinks and hopefully get more than 1-2 uniques a day, but before I do that I wanted some feedback on the theme/content. So if people are willing to take a look I'd appreciate it.

My site: www.aboutgemstones.net

One thing I was wondering about is should I be going for a homepage like this: www.allaboutgemstones.com/gemstone_home.html? Perhaps with featured articles/images or should I just stick to the 2-3 article homepage?

To me it seems like you could remove the sidebar navigation and use the space for ads with a proper homepage. Plus you could quickly lead people deep into your site/feature your best articles. However I'm not sure what the bounce rate is going to be when people see a fairly dry homepage.

Thanks for the help!
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09-24-2011 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ceire
Hi guys got my site up and running still a couple of things i need to tweak, any suggestion?

http://www.footballfantasytips.com/

Looking at some of the recent post would my best chance of making money selling the information on the site as an ebook? What kind of returns can i expect on a dite like this if i want down the google adsense road? Thanks for any help
Looking pretty good. One thing that jumps out is the rotation speed of your header, it's almost impossible to read the text properly before it switches to the next image.
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09-24-2011 , 03:55 PM
Insaint,

I don't know anything about the technical stuff with SEO and whatnot, but you need to update the look.
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09-24-2011 , 04:27 PM
working on my first site right now, a poker site, and I have like five planned. I've been reading tons of website management articles and SEO type stuff. To all you pros, please keep posting them!
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09-24-2011 , 04:37 PM
Poker is such a hard business to get into with all the already well-established brands out there. Even with good SEO it will take you forever, if not impossible to reach top results. I wish you good luck but I hope you already have an idea of how hard that market is
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09-24-2011 , 04:59 PM
I have an area of the market that has been overlooked, and while its not a huge market I think I can corner it pretty easily. I'm not expecting to make like hundreds of thousands, but I would like to beat out the competition and get the money while I can.

I think theres no way I dont see a profit, but It wont be too big either.
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09-25-2011 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tetsuya
Insaint,

I don't know anything about the technical stuff with SEO and whatnot, but you need to update the look.
Thanks for taking a look. By look do you mean colours/placement of sidebar or more general as in I should get a new theme?
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09-25-2011 , 09:33 AM
So I applied to a few poker writing jobs on elance just to get a feel for being in a freelance writer's spot. Didn't get any offers, I guess because I don't have a rep on there. Anyone have any tips for someone without a rep? I was bidding really low, and I doubt anyone that knows more about poker than I do would be willing to write for close to the price I was (I'm not a great poker player, but I'm a native english speaker who can write reasonably well with a lot of experience on the subject bidding at 1 cent a word or close to it depending on the job).
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09-25-2011 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Insaint
Thanks for taking a look. By look do you mean colours/placement of sidebar or more general as in I should get a new theme?
The main thing that jumped out at me was the header with your website name.
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09-25-2011 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by trelskig
working on my first site right now, a poker site, and I have like five planned. I've been reading tons of website management articles and SEO type stuff. To all you pros, please keep posting them!
What sources did you use for website management articles and SEO type stuff?
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09-25-2011 , 12:58 PM
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The main thing that jumped out at me was the header with your website name.
Alright, thanks. I threw the header together in Paint, guess I should just pay someone to get a more professional one.

Appreciate the feedback, if you need someone to take a look at your site just let me know.
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