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05-04-2010 , 05:48 PM
Its been said a few times throughout this thread but thanks to the OP and all the contributions to this thread, it’s great!
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05-20-2010 , 08:27 PM
I'm looking for a very cheap .com registrar for the registration of several hundred names - any suggestions on one?

I've found plenty of hits on google, but they all claim to be "$1.99" domains that wind up being $8/each.

Trying to find a good, solid domain registrar that's also $3 or less per .com is proving much more difficult than I expected. All I want is the domain, not hosting.
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05-21-2010 , 12:43 AM
That's because it costs the registrar more than $3 to register your domain name.
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05-21-2010 , 11:47 AM
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That's because it costs the registrar more than $3 to register your domain name.
It must have gone up then. When I worked for an ISP in early 2000, the cost for us to register was right around $2.50 (But that may have just been for .co.uk domains)

Anyone have suggestions for cheap domain services? I can find plenty at $9.95 but since I'm looking at registering around 500 this year, I'd like to lower my unit costs.

How do those spam sites that register misspellings handle the cost?


EDIT: I found a site (globat) with a special offer for $3.99 registration, but the site seems very spammy and keeps trying to trick you into registering for extra services (e.g. has auto-completed checkboxes that add all kinds of crap to the order.) While it's certainly cheap, I can't help but worry that they would screw me over in a year (normal price is $16/year) meaning that I'd have to move to another host and deal with all their crap.

Has anyone used them? Are they as shady as they seem to be?

Last edited by sharpie337; 05-21-2010 at 11:57 AM. Reason: EDIT: Found a host
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05-21-2010 , 12:01 PM
I'm pretty sure you will not be able to find .com's for that price anywhere.

You may be able to find other TLD's like .info/etc though.

Also, with globat - is that special offer only for one year? You don't want to gend up with 500 domains that will triple in price for year 2.
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05-21-2010 , 06:12 PM
$3 vs $8 here doesn't seem like a huge concern.
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05-21-2010 , 07:23 PM
You may only be able to register 1 domain at that price and the rest are normal price.
They might have fees if you want to transfer domains out of there.
They might make it a huge hassle to transfer domains out of there.
Could be shady - they say $3.99 domains only apply to parked domains which means maybe if you want to change DNS you have to pay.

Since you're buying 500 domains at once you're might be doing something shady so you might want to consider namecheap since you get a year free of whois privacy protection.
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05-21-2010 , 07:37 PM
Nothing shady, I'm just taking the "long tail" approach to certain keywords.


For now, I'm sticking with dreamhost.com - they are expensive at $10 but I've been with them for years and they support everything I want.

That other place just looked too spammy to be worth dealing with. I don't want to spend several days reading contracts looking for the gotcha clause.

I'm planning on creating several sites per day once my automation is finished and I'll probably register an LLC and move everything to there so I can deduct the cost of registrations and hosting. I'll post again if I actually make it that far - so far I'm not sure I have a profitable model.
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05-22-2010 , 12:13 AM
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Great thread to read!

I in some way, shape or form would love to run an adult website. For a young male with limited funds any recommendations on where to start? I'm willing to learn and attempt things but I really have no idea how to start.

First step would be to have a solid idea of what type of site I want to run. Since I have limited funds it'd be best to start from scratch no?
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Why start from scratch when there is unlimited content on the internet already. You don't need to make your own content. You will not make money, unless your lucky, but if you want to own an adult website just so you can own one you could get it done for under $50.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2490569

These guys seem to know what they;re doing. I've been looking into as a way to get into Internet marketing, actually, since it seems like adult websites are the easiest to get started in, from my extremely limited knowledge.
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05-22-2010 , 07:55 AM
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I have posted a couple affiliate links without explicitly stating they were but I certainly didn't go out of my way to hide it. I guess you mean that I used www.hostgator.com instead of www.hostgator.com/myaffiliateid=Neko. meh, that is just my default behaviour for me with all urls I post, especially if they are longer than 10 or so characters. I will make it more clear in the future if I post an affiliate link if people have a problem with it.
LOL, right.

And no, my statement wasn't asinine. For building standard web sites, WordPress is a much easier solution than to go out and learn how to code CSS, HTML, PHP, etc. I specifically said it's a waste to learn to code THOSE formats because WordPress does nearly anything useful you could do with that. WordPress is such a huge program that there is a plugin for nearly anything you need and it's much, much, much less time consuming to simply upload a plugin Vs. coding one yourself.

If you want something out of the ordinary, like to start your own Twitter, then no, WordPress won't cut it. For the 99.9% of the people in this thread who want to make web sites to earn money, WordPress is above and beyond what they need.

And I am not selling anything with this post. For those who want to build sites very easy and have them be easy on your end, accessible to your users and completely functional with a zillion free add-ons, check out WordPress.
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05-22-2010 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sharpie337
I'm looking for a very cheap .com registrar for the registration of several hundred names - any suggestions on one?

I've found plenty of hits on google, but they all claim to be "$1.99" domains that wind up being $8/each.

Trying to find a good, solid domain registrar that's also $3 or less per .com is proving much more difficult than I expected. All I want is the domain, not hosting.
Just use GoDaddy with a code and you can get a domain for $7.75 or something a year. I'd just go with a trusted brand like GD and pay $7.75 or whatever since it's a cheap amount and you receive solid service.
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05-22-2010 , 08:18 AM
Why not get a reseller account w/ Enom or some other well-known registrar? If you get the B option of their Premier package, at $7.95/.com, you'd use up the Enom points in 2 years. Of course, do a little more research first, as I have no experience in mass-purchasing domains.

http://www.enom.com/pricing.asp
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05-22-2010 , 08:49 AM
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For building standard web sites, WordPress is a much easier solution than to go out and learn how to code CSS, HTML, PHP, etc.
Of course it is. We don't need to argue about this really, I am 100% in agreement that Wordpress is more than sufficient for most people. Again, I wouldn't have bothered to say anything if you didn't say:

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Learning PHP and CSS and HTML and crap is pretty much a waste of time when WordPress can do everything.
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I specifically said it's a waste to learn to code THOSE formats because WordPress does nearly anything useful you could do with that.
I dunno, I guess I am just being a nit, but those statements were wrong. Wordpress is a program/collection of plugins written in PHP. PHP is a general purpose programming language capable of solving incredibly complex problems.. Saying Wordpress can do nearly anything useful you can do with PHP is a false statement. (Except of course in the sense that if you know php then you can of course write a plugin to make it do "anything" say, like solve a molecular dynamics problem).
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05-22-2010 , 01:09 PM
There is a plugin for nearly EVERYTHING you would ever need for WordPress. You would be hard pressed to find many people, even NOT on this board just for the sake of the argument, who would benefit more by learning to code in PHP, HTML and CSS than to learn how to use WordPress. That is my point and I don't think that's debatable for this thread. Either way, I'm done with this argument.
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05-22-2010 , 01:21 PM
This post makes sense:
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You would be hard pressed to find many people on this board who would benefit more by learning to code in PHP, HTML and CSS than to learn how to use WordPress. That is my point and I don't think that's debatable for this thread.
This one does not:

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There is a plugin for nearly EVERYTHING you would ever need for WordPress. You would be hard pressed to find many people, even NOT on this board just for the sake of the argument, who would benefit more by learning to code in PHP, HTML and CSS than to learn how to use WordPress. That is my point and I don't think that's debatable for this thread.
And that is my point. You can't say "nearly everything" just because you can't think of them.

This argument is a stupid derailment of this otherwise good thread though. So I apologize to all for that.
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05-22-2010 , 01:25 PM
Well wordpress is years behind when it comes to stuff like this - http://drupal.org/project/cck although they're trying to catch up.

Saying wordpress works for basically everyone's web needs is LOL.
Saying wordpress works for basically everyone's blog needs is truth.
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05-24-2010 , 03:23 AM
I wasn't trying to say it can do everything. I was saying it can do nearly everything with regard to CSS, HTML and PHP and specifically to people ITT. If you think it's more beneficial to learn those languages and hand write **** instead of just using something like WordPress or Drupal then go for it lol.
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05-24-2010 , 04:11 AM
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... WordPress can do everything.
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what can't WordPress do?

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...CSS, HTML, PHP, etc. I specifically said it's a waste to learn to code THOSE formats because WordPress does nearly anything useful you could do with that.
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I wasn't trying to say it can do everything.


Wordpress, CAN NOT DO nearly everything you can do with css html, php. This is a fact.

Last edited by Neko; 05-24-2010 at 04:18 AM.
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05-24-2010 , 06:04 AM
Yeah, you're taking those out of context. But whatever. No reason to derail a thread. If anyone think its more beneficial to learn how to code PHP, HTML and **** instead of learning something like WP or Drupal, by all means, go for it.
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05-24-2010 , 10:11 AM
My own take on the "learn php vs. WP is all you need":

For quick results, learn the crap out of Wordpress, Joomla or Drupal. As you learn, try making some tiny changes to the code on a test version of your site (change a colour or make a font change or something.) and see how it affects things.

Over time, it's great to learn a programming language, just so you can try out your own ideas when they come to you. Like any business you involve yourself in, it's good to learn the basics so you can at least estimate the amount of work required to do something.

In other news, I found out that dreamhost offers free whois privacy with their registrations now. No need to switch after all.
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05-24-2010 , 02:13 PM
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There is a plugin for nearly EVERYTHING you would ever need for WordPress. You would be hard pressed to find many people, even NOT on this board just for the sake of the argument, who would benefit more by learning to code in PHP, HTML and CSS than to learn how to use WordPress. That is my point and I don't think that's debatable for this thread. Either way, I'm done with this argument.
I'm working on a website that mines through old NCAA Football statistics, stores them to a database, and then uses that database to try to determine causality and predict future games. Is there a WordPress plugin for this that I am unaware of?
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05-24-2010 , 02:41 PM
IIRC Wordpress was built using php.
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05-24-2010 , 02:44 PM
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IIRC Wordpress was built using php.
We are all agreed on that point
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05-24-2010 , 10:03 PM
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I'm working on a website that mines through old NCAA Football statistics, stores them to a database, and then uses that database to try to determine causality and predict future games. Is there a WordPress plugin for this that I am unaware of?
Nah, some simple HTML code should do it though.
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05-25-2010 , 03:09 PM
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Nah, some simple HTML code should do it though.
7/10 would troll again.
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