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Hi Ballistic. Great thread, great info, thank you for all the posts.

I was interested in getting into the supplements, weight loss, working out space and wanted a good network (hope I'm using the term right) that will handle all the customer related tasks. I intend to drive traffic through my various sites and collect a commission. Who do you think offers the best package for that area? Thanks!

the networks just feed you with offers. The people selling the products provide the CS.

convert2media has some, and ads4dough has some too.

markethealth and moreniche are in the health/supp business, but I don't really know how they perform, I've heard mixed reviews.

Best thing you could do is go around forums and ask. Best offers in this vertical are not thourgh networks.

When using a network, say like Maxbounty or Peerfly, for FB ads for example, do we (the publishers) interact with the advertiser or do we just create whatever ads we want and get paid if an action happens? Also, continuing with that example, could a bunch of random publishers on the networks be creating ads for the same advertiser at the same time? Or is it once you create ads for an advertiser then it's just you doing it exclusively?

The second. Sometimes ads/landing pages have to be approved for FTC compliance by the network though.


uhm.. of course there are tons of other affiliates on the same offer. that is why outing exactly what you are doing is not a very good idea.

Thanks that's helpful.

Btw, for other newbs out here besides me, I ran into a 90+ page free e-book today that outlines CPA marketing pretty well (not that this thread isn't great). It seems to be a good beginner explanation of the mechanics of CPA marketing, but I can't comment on any strategies mentioned in it.

I found it here (you have to do the whole e-mail opt in thing): cpahotspot dot com

Author's name is Gauher Chaudry

yes someone reads it and likes it, too. thanks for doing this

Hi Ballistic10, can u pls send me a pm? need to get in contact, tks

i got accepted into a network and am wondering if the coversation rates and EPC listed for offers really mean anything. i'm curious because i think i read somewhere that they're virtually meaningless.

What do you think of this company?

http://rocketfuel.com/

Which avenue do you pursue for creating content publishing websites. Not much of a developer and don't have much time to devote to this. Trying wordpress, namely the Pagelines theme but still requires quite a bit of coding. Any quick and easily customizable options?

There's some diaries by beginners on other forums that have been insightful to me (or entertaining at least). I'll post them as I run across them.

Here's one from Wicked Fire from a newbie trying out dating ads on FB: http://www.wickedfire.com/newbie-que...y-squalor.html

Hey Ballistic10 can you tell what top 1% of the guys are making in the media buys?

Based on my initial research I see all the guys who are considered gurus > show some of their campaigns from back in 2010.

Mr.Green even posted that in 2010 he was making $25,000 per month working 25 hours/month and in the 2011 He was break even.

What is the situation right now?

I see the same trend like in poker. 2-3 years ago guys were making lots of money playing $1000 now you can find bunch of those in $100 zoom on pokerstars beating it for 2bb/100

And coaching for like 100$/hour

The real money that is making > poker networks.

Isnt it the same in IM? > who is making real money > guys who teach others, product developers, CPA networks.

In marketing whatever was happening in 2010 isnt the same what it is right now. CPC costs increased, "consumer blindness" to all the ads in general leads to lower CTR, semi legit > lead gen campaigns are banned and not viable option anymore...

I been interested in Paid advertising because whatever I learned in poker is highly appliable to Paid advertising.

Get the data > skip what doesnt work > do more what works more > capture the profit.

But before that I would like to get an honest answer from the guy whos been in the industry for a long time.

If I reach top 1% PPC/Media buyers > within 2 years. What would be your estimate of possible profit made/year.

Do you notice any difference in profit margins on this year vs previous year?

Would really appreciate if you can bring me up to date of what the current situation is.

yeah something like PTR but for AM would be great so we can sift through all the b.s. about how much people really make would be great.

i mean yeah if some non-genius kid in the US asks me "how much can i make in poker online?" and i use Ivey or durrr as an example that he can make millions, then that's deceiving and not helpful when the reality is that very smart people, including coaches, with years of experience and millions of hands under their belt would make a higher wage waiting tables than grinding online (i know this as a fact for quite a few regs from what i've seen on merge).

Hi Ballistic10, first of all thank you for this thread.

I guess youve had experience with VA's. Do you have any website to recommend for that? Any tips to make thr process as simple as possible?

Basically anything you know about outsourcing would be very helpful.

Thank you.

From what I've seen (so far), going solo means creating ads for the diet pill/dating/make-a-million-dollars-in-your-underwear industries. These are bottom of the barrel industries as a whole, though the biggest it seems in AM.

So one of the values of working for an agency it appears is that you get to work with big, reputable clients. You make real contacts. You develop a real resume. cwar is probably not spending his workdays dealing with shady affiliate managers and advertisers, while trying to create ads that attract the desperate, unemployed, and retired to click. He works with F500 corps who have huge budgets. And it's not uncommon for those clients to eventually hire their consultants inhouse, which gives agency consultant-types more opportunities.