While this is a really cool story, it's just noise because no one is expected to earn that income without bringing something special to the table. A person who has work experience, a college degree, has networked throughout college/work will earn more in expectation, and that's all that matters.

It just gets tiring hearing all this about needing to graduate college to make it anywhere. It is all we have been told our entire lives. I have another friend who is overseas working for the military making about 1k a day doing IT... however he works probably 100 hours a week in dangerous conditions. I actually pride myself on not being "educated".

While I believe that is likely true in the States OP is Canadian and worse he appears to live in Quebec. For a male I'll take non-educated over having an undergrad degree for income potential.

You can be a bartender at a popular bar and you can clear 80K. (and not declare a good chunk of it for taxes.)

But is that a great job? Maybe for a year or five, it is. But ultimately it's a crap job that wears on you.

If you work like a dog and put in tons of overtime you can make a lot of money in a lot of jobs. No question. Lots of skilled trades make good money if they put in the hours.

College on the other hand is great for quality of life jobs. You don't have to work like a dog making 50 widgets/hour, or clear someone's clogged up toilet at 7pm on Saturday when you get called in as a plumber.

In an average office, no one is going to care if you show up to the office half hour late. (mostly) No one is going to care if you ditch work half hour early (mostly). Or spend your afternoon on Facebook when it is slow. (mostly) You might be getting paid a bit less, but it is a more relaxed atmosphere and generally better quality of life.

This is why I went to Uni. I didn't really expect to get paid more. I just wanted a job with more variety and no one looking my shoulder and my time slips.

I guess it comes down to personality type but I'll take being a bartender at $80k over working in an office at $55-60k even without the tax advantage of not having to declare a good portion of my income. Even at income parity I would take the bartending.

I was quite disappointed that to graduate law school and get the highest paying job available to a graduate and still be offered less than my dad who could barely speak English and did not finish high school. That doesn't even factor in that I'd be expected to work twice as many hours. Eventually I would make more and work less but once you factor in the years lost in schooling as well as the cost of the schooling I would never catch up to just going straight into construction.

expand on this ( im from montreal,quebec indeed)

Because being "educated" is not cool? Do you not realize how pathetic it is that you pride yourself on not being educated? It would be like taking pride in not being athletic or taking pride in having a 3-inch dick.

In the States blue collar work tends to pay a lot less than it does in Canada. Canada also tends to pay professionals a lot less than their US equivalent. The result is that the range of pay is much more narrow and it is really hard to recover the opportunity cost of going to school.

Just because you have a personal vendetta against the way the system works does not mean you should suggest someone make a -EV decision. Obviously you can make it without a college degree in America, but your expectation is lower than a degree holder.

Seems like this is a moot hijack anyhow because OP is Canadian and not going back to school regardless.

exactly school is out of the equations , plans are either tought it out and make a 60k~ salary till retirement , change field ( without a diploma). or start my own buisness

If you want to capitalize on your trade, accumulate as much experience, which includes whatever certificates you can get, and then in a few years you can apply to other inspection and supervisory type positions. Those could include home inspection/insurance inspection services. Also with the appropriate TQ's you can get work with the workers compensation board as an inspector/liaison. These positions don't require the back breaking daily work load, but you first have to have experience of more than just a few seasons. To get to that level you need to show leadership.

But you are only 25, and to be so apathetic about climbing about on roofs and slinging bundles around, maybe you would find that too hard too.

thats some option, i have 7 years of exp ( started beeing a roofer out of highschool during summer ( i went to college for 5 session but never graduated in anything ). about beeing 25 and finding it hard to sling bundles around... not sure i get what your saying but it aint easy. tho on a side note with the exp I got i barely even touch a bundle i just sit there and nail them while having the 15$/hr labor do the heavy lifting.
Tho beeing on your knees 10 hours a day is still hard.

These are BC TQ's, but there should be similar ones for Que and ONT you could acquire.

https://www.rcabc.org/_customelement...allengeapp.pdf
http://www.itabc.ca/AssetFactory.aspx?did=1292

These type of docs are as valuable as a sheep skin from a university. It not only signifies ability, but more so a willingness to improve your standing to the trade and your peers.

I don't know how I am hijacking anything.. Just providing a second experience to back up his point. I find it sad that so many people go to school just to make 50-60k a year.

And no not because its cool. It's because I dwarf the salary of every buddy I have from high school who decided to go to school.

Seems like neither of you saw my post on the previous page.... Its absolutely not a -ev career field I was talking about and comes with basically zero college debt. Working 40 hours a week typically and with no stress. Could find some positions with a little overtime if preferred.

You do not understand what expectation means. They teach it in college, for what it's worth!