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02-22-2019 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jij452
thank you so much, first person i ever block.
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02-22-2019 , 01:31 PM
BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
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02-22-2019 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
next halving is may 2020. so it's going to hit 100k and then drop to 30-50k by end of 2020?
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02-22-2019 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Ironically, going down that evidence list is what made me think there's no other explanation for the evidence other than him being Satoshi.

If he's not, think of how incredibly stupid the lead bitcoin developer and the head of the bitcoin foundation must be to think he's Satoshi. Or how incredibly smart Craig Wright must be. Both of them:

- Asked him non-public questions that only they and Satoshi would know, were happy with the answers
- Repeatedly watched him sign a phrase of their choosing with various of the first 9 keys
- Probed his knowledge of cryptography and blockchain tech and were highly impressed

An extraordinarily talented conman if he can pull that off while knowing "nothing about cryptography/bitcoin/can't even code" as some of his detractors claim.
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02-22-2019 , 01:55 PM
that evidence list is what made me think there's no other explanation for the evidence other than him being Satoshi

peaking
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02-22-2019 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
God bless your heart.
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02-22-2019 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
- Probed his knowledge of cryptography and blockchain tech and were highly impressed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeM8BuzeSTc

Seems plenty are not impressed with his knowledge. You dont think its atleast interesting that big names in the space call him out as a fraud? That doesn't phase your opinion at all?
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02-22-2019 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
thank you so much, first person i ever block.
Yup, same for me actually... You're very welcome


“Never play chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over.
Then ****s all over the board.
Then struts around like it won.”


---> https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/p...gnore&u=442315
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02-23-2019 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
BTC should be around 30k-50 at end of 2020. It won't hit 100k until the next halving. Not sure where these finance guys pull their numbers from but BTC current trajectory is going exactly as projected back in 2013.
And that's why you are a millionaire now, right?
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02-23-2019 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chytry
And that's why you are a millionaire now, right?
Maybe not now but by the end 2020. At least i have somewat fixed date now when i can retire
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02-23-2019 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinkmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeM8BuzeSTc

Seems plenty are not impressed with his knowledge. You dont think its atleast interesting that big names in the space call him out as a fraud? That doesn't phase your opinion at all?
I wouldn't take Vitalik's opinion too seriously. This is the guy who tried to raise money by claiming he might be able to break SHA-256 & Bitcoin by simulating quantum computers on regular computers.

https://www.newsbtc.com/2016/08/17/g...computer-scam/
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02-23-2019 , 10:37 AM
Actually I would call that proof that Vitalik didn't invent Ethereum! That's part of the standard of reasoning above for why Wright isn't Satoshi. Thanks for the link, that's hilarious.

The crypto space is so full of cucks, crooks and charlatans that I don't put a lot of stock in the vitriolic attacks, especially when many are provably absurd ("he doesn't even code!"). Bitcoin SV and Satoshi's vision of where Bitcoin should go is also the death of Viltalik's baby.

Andresen still strongly believes Wright = Satoshi, and the founder of the bitcoin foundation also does, strongly. They're the closest thing to honest guys in this space and the only authority on Satoshi that matters - he only corresponded privately with a handful of people.

Last edited by ToothSayer; 02-23-2019 at 10:42 AM.
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02-23-2019 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Andresen still strongly believes Wright = Satoshi, and the founder of the bitcoin foundation also does, strongly.
Links plz
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02-23-2019 , 02:14 PM
BTC rises in the short term and...

TS continues to hit the calls. He'd likely be a near billionaire if he had invested alot of BTC when he first became bullish, and swing/margin traded all his leans. (It's possible he actually did do this and simply claims he has 0. That would be smart to do if he really had many.)

Mind blowing.
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02-23-2019 , 03:22 PM
For lunch, I just ordered two pizzas from Domino's , a national US chain, using the Bitcoin Lightning Network. The transaction was nearly instantaneous , transaction fee of 3 cents , and got a 5% discount on the price for using the LN. Very nice!

Details:
I used the Bitcoin Lightning Wallet app for Android phones.
The bitcoins came originally came from Coinbase.
Pizza is at https://ln.pizza
If you want to shop at other stores see https://lightningnetworkstores.com/.

The Bitcoin Lightning Network baby is real and alive.

Last edited by Pokerlogist; 02-23-2019 at 03:27 PM.
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02-23-2019 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
For lunch, I just ordered two pizzas from Domino's , a national US chain, using the Bitcoin Lightning Network. The transaction was nearly instantaneous , transaction fee of 3 cents , and got a 5% discount on the price for using the LN. Very nice!

Details:
I used the Bitcoin Lightning Wallet for Android.
The bitcoins came originally came from Coinbase.
Pizza is at https://ln.pizza
If you want to shop at other stores see https://lightningnetworkstores.com/.

The Bitcoin Lightning Network baby is real and alive.
why would you do that? that bitcoin will be worth a fortune some day
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02-23-2019 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
why would you do that? that bitcoin will be worth a fortune some day
For the cause. A functioning LN that provides the world with cheap, fast, secure, decentralized, censorship-resistant payments will add immense value to the Bitcoin network. Praise be to the beta testers.
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02-23-2019 , 08:04 PM
Don't feed the pigeon, feed the chickens

https://pollofeed.com/
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02-24-2019 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokerlogist
For lunch, I just ordered two pizzas from Domino's , a national US chain, using the Bitcoin Lightning Network. The transaction was nearly instantaneous , transaction fee of 3 cents , and got a 5% discount on the price for using the LN. Very nice!

Details:
I used the Bitcoin Lightning Wallet app for Android phones.
The bitcoins came originally came from Coinbase.
Pizza is at https://ln.pizza
If you want to shop at other stores see https://lightningnetworkstores.com/.

The Bitcoin Lightning Network baby is real and alive.
What kind of lightning node did you use? (lnd, eclair, etc.?) (on android, ios, PC?)

Who did you set up lightning channels with? ln.pizza or someone else?

How much were the fees to set up those channels?

How much bitcoin did you lock into those channels?
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02-24-2019 , 04:04 AM
I don't understand what's so amazing about giving Bitcoin to Card for Coin, Inc to order pizza for you.
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02-24-2019 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by OlafTheSnowman
I don't understand what's so amazing about giving Bitcoin to Card for Coin, Inc to order pizza for you.
One issue people have with Bitcoin is that it can't scale because it's too slow (10 minute blocks) and too expensive to transact every day (fees have hit highs of $20+).

So it's cool to order pizza and pay with bitcoin where the transaction is instant and essentially free.
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02-24-2019 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OlafTheSnowman
I don't understand what's so amazing about giving Bitcoin to Card for Coin, Inc to order pizza for you.
oh dang - yea, "i ordered pizza from a nationwide chain using bitcoin" sounds pretty good

much more attractive than:

i sent bitcoin to a guy who turned around and ordered pizza with his credit card. then i tipped the bitcoin guy at the end, because yay lightning network!

fella probably got a couple frequent flyer miles out of it too.

tbh, i'm more impressed with the chicken feeder
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02-24-2019 , 04:13 PM
So ln.pizza isn't really using LN to buy pizza?
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02-24-2019 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vikthunder
So ln.pizza isn't really using LN to buy pizza?
bitcoin has come a long way!

before, you had to send a guy 10,000 bitcoin to place a pizza order for you.
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02-24-2019 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vikthunder
What kind of lightning node did you use? (lnd, eclair, etc.?) (on android, ios, PC?) ACINQ/eclair , this is all done by the Android phone app (Bitcoin Lightning) I was using

Who did you set up lightning channels with? ln.pizza or someone else? The app lists channels and suggests the best channel and the user just clicks on one to use

How much were the fees to set up those channels? the channel setup fee was about 10 cents

How much bitcoin did you lock into those channels? about $51
The two pizzas cost about $11.40, a discount price as far as I know
None of my credit cards were involved.

I may buy an Amazon gift card next.
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