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12-14-2017 , 02:36 PM
I want to tell you guys about this thing called myspace. It is the biggest social media platform in the world, has the best developers, and the most users. Everybody is on it-so why not get on this money train while you can?
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12-14-2017 , 02:38 PM
make hay while the sun is shining.
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12-14-2017 , 02:44 PM
what do the bitcoin devs do all day and who is paying them? who are they?
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12-14-2017 , 02:46 PM


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12-14-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gamblor777
I love how everyone says because the tx fees are a little high it has "basically no utility." I've transacted constantly this week by depositing and withdrawing to my regular gambling sites, paying a few dollars in fees. Fees fluctuate depending on the mempool, sometimes they're higher, sometimes they're lower. This is something you should look up and be aware of if you're using Bitcoin.

If you actually use it, you will quickly become accustomed to this. You'll know how urgent a tx you're sending is, so you know whether you need to use a high or low fee.

I send multiple transactions a day, for everything from paying people debts I owe them, to loading up gambling accounts, to ordering **** online.

For those of us who actually use it, it has loads of utility, and has for years.
You'd be saving bigly by using Stellar for payments since its the fastest and cheapest way to move crypto.
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12-14-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mmmutiny





That was great.
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12-14-2017 , 03:04 PM
Would watch again
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12-14-2017 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by btc
You'd be saving bigly by using Stellar for payments since its the fastest and cheapest way to move crypto.
Except nobody accepts stellar and cashing it out on an exchange takes forever. Bitcoin fees are only high because everyone wants to use it.
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12-14-2017 , 03:18 PM
"Even my hairdresser buys bitcoin." *Looks at singer's $5 buzz cut* Story does not check out.
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12-14-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Will watch again
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12-14-2017 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Except nobody accepts stellar and cashing it out on an exchange takes forever. Bitcoin fees are only high because everyone wants to use it.
The top exchanges handle XLM, and I never said anything about cashing out. Still cheaper/faster to send XLM and convert to ltc or eth for cashing out.
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12-14-2017 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Has anyone here traveled internationally and had issues with carrying their nano ledger so or trezor with them? Because bitcoin is not a currency and is an asset, i assume you don't need to declare you have over 10k in your wallet if thats the case? Then again, if you don't have your bitcoin stored there, you probably have it stored on your wallet on your computer which is sort of the same thing and many people carry their computer around.
Obviously you don't have to declare it, that's like having to declare your credit cards /facepalm
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12-14-2017 , 04:20 PM
It's more like having to declare your jewelry. Or maybe a check.
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12-14-2017 , 04:27 PM
It's nothing like that. There are no bitcoins on a trezor/ledger (or anywhere else for that matter). It's more like if you had a really complicated paypal password that you couldn't remember, and had it stored in a file on your cellphone. Do you have to declare that if you had 10K in your paypal?
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12-14-2017 , 04:33 PM
U.S. Customs and Border Patrol says on its website, "If in doubt, declare it."
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12-14-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ECTAE
Obviously you don't have to declare it, that's like having to declare your credit cards /facepalm
Bitcoin isn't even close to the same thing as a credit card. The only facepalm is me having to read your bad posts like this.
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12-14-2017 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by btc
The top exchanges handle XLM, and I never said anything about cashing out. Still cheaper/faster to send XLM and convert to ltc or eth for cashing out.
Def not cheaper after exchange fees
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12-14-2017 , 04:37 PM
Pauly posts are troll droppings.
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12-14-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
the problem with people defending bitcoin is that none of their points make sense. the only argument they have is consensus. just like evaluating art or baseball cards, the store of value component is pure consensus.
The same argument could be made for gold. Most of it's price is derived from consensus, not utility. And since many people want a product that to invest in that is not government controlled(as a hedge against ones that are government controlled), bitcoin makes for a pretty good option.

I'm not saying bitcoin should be worth 16k(or whatever it is today), but the fact that it's a technology that solved the double spend problem, is censorship resistant, fungible, anti fragile, nearly infinity divisible and has some of the smartest people working one(and auditing) it's code, I think it would ans should be something that is sought for the same reason folks want gold.
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12-14-2017 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TimM
It's nothing like that. There are no bitcoins on a trezor/ledger (or anywhere else for that matter). It's more like if you had a really complicated paypal password that you couldn't remember, and had it stored in a file on your cellphone. Do you have to declare that if you had 10K in your paypal?
THIS!
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12-14-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TimM
It's nothing like that. There are no bitcoins on a trezor/ledger (or anywhere else for that matter). It's more like if you had a really complicated paypal password that you couldn't remember, and had it stored in a file on your cellphone. Do you have to declare that if you had 10K in your paypal?
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12-14-2017 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike E. Vegas
The same argument could be made for gold. Most of it's price is derived from consensus, not utility. And since many people want a product that to invest in that is not government controlled(as a hedge against ones that are government controlled), bitcoin makes for a pretty good option.

I'm not saying bitcoin should be worth 16k(or whatever it is today), but the fact that it's a technology that solved the double spend problem, is censorship resistant, fungible, anti fragile, nearly infinity divisible and has some of the smartest people working one(and auditing) it's code, I think it would ans should be something that is sought for the same reason folks want gold.
right but there is actual consensus that gold has value. you can't make that claim with bitcoin since its very new. thats speculation. if its not widely used as a currency then why would bitcoin become the first virtual store of value?

the whole thing is massively speculative whereas gold has been valuable since forever. the price of gold can rise and fall but the idea it could be completely abandoned overnight isn't realistic. bitcoin is definitely in that stage right now. people are speculating its could be a store of value and there is no consensus yet. the only consensus is that its the industry leader in crypto

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12-14-2017 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by matt0216
The lawyer is Stuart Hoegner, not Jon Friedberg.

http://www.gamingcounsel.co/
My bad.
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12-14-2017 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
There are plenty of good answers itt. You aren’t the 1st person to come up with this question and you won’t be the last. If you really want to know try reading the thread before you demand answers.
The thread has 25000 posts
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12-14-2017 , 08:59 PM
Gold is the best conductor and is used in every computer we have today. I guess that isn't an expansive utility, but its sure as **** an important one.

One of gold's utilities is supporting the Bitcoin infrastructure.
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