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Old 08-09-2012, 07:21 AM   #61
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

The latest homepage is the best by far.

Some thoughts:

1) Why is pricing in a popup style window?
- Should be able to sign up straight from the pricing page.

2) Why is 'how it works' an image and not a proper web page?
- This is making the sign up process much more difficult than it should be.

3) Get started is your main CTA, yet I would imagine that page has a ridiculously high bounce rate off the homepage.
- I think you should include pricing on there, and a brief how it works or something.
- Also try split testing the exact same page but without the logo being a link - make it harder to navigate away from the sign up page.

4) Get some real testimonials from your customers and put them in place of the recent startups.

5) Make the your header (with the logo, menu signup etc) the same throughout the whole site (maybe with the exception of the signup page).
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:17 PM   #62
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I like the way that looks, but I don't think you want to only have that on your main page.

This isn't a landing page for some ad you're running, this is the frontpage for your company. Don't be afraid to keep a lot of the stuff you have (videos, testimonials, etc) below those elements.

Also, I think there's way more value to be gained in optimizing the rest of your business at this point rather than worrying about having the best designed site out there. Agreed, make it clear what you're selling, and what people need to do to sign up, but don't spend 3 weeks focusing on the design. People use ****ty designed sites every day when the product works how they need it to and for a good value.
I couldn't disagree more.

Effectively convincing people to purchase your product is the difference between failing and succeeding. Assuming that his product works, which seems reasonable based on the testimonials, the most important objective at this point is to sell it.

Spending time and effort on gold plating rather than selling would be a huge mistake, imo.


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The latest homepage is the best by far.
1) Why is pricing in a popup style window?
- Should be able to sign up straight from the pricing page.

2) Why is 'how it works' an image and not a proper web page?
- This is making the sign up process much more difficult than it should be.
Absolutely this, for a couple of reasons. The 'how it works' image is 385KB, which is a massive waste of bandwidth (For your customers, not you. Customers don't care about your bandwidth, but they hate slow loading pages).

I noticed that you're using images to present text in the pricing box as well. This is a bad practice because search engine spiders can't read text in images, so you're entirely missing out on the SEO benefits, keywords, etc.

There's some info about that here under "Design and content guidelines":

http://support.google.com/webmasters...0419&ctx=topic

Also, the new design looks much better. Nice work. Keep tweaking and adjusting, you'll get it it exactly where you want it at some point, it just takes a little bit of time.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:56 PM   #63
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

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I couldn't disagree more.

Effectively convincing people to purchase your product is the difference between failing and succeeding. Assuming that his product works, which seems reasonable based on the testimonials, the most important objective at this point is to sell it.

Spending time and effort on gold plating rather than selling would be a huge mistake, imo.
I guess I'm not willing to make that assumption when I haven't used it and there posts in this thread about things that were broken.

It's not gold-plating to make a site that at least works the way a user would expect it to.
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Old 08-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #64
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

Ok so I think I am set on my design, but could use help with my site copy. I just enhanced my widget so it seems a bit more appealing for startups to use on their own website.

I would like some feedback on the widget that appears on the page. It allows for my customization and more explanation as to what the heck it is.

Would this be something you would use for your own website? There will also be options to make your widget be custom colored. Please let me know why you would or wouldn't use a tool like this on your site, and if you would consider paying for it.

Thanks!
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:52 PM   #65
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

How come you're pricing page is still a modal style windows? I'd bet that is definitely not optimal.

With the sign-up page I think you'd see more signups if you outlines everything a client would be inputting with either breadcrumbs for the sign up process, or blanked out fields or something. As a potential user, I feel put off by filling in 4 fields without any more information. If you want I can demonstrate what I mean, just ask.

Also, being very nit picky here, but instead of saying 'please use http://' in the website field, why not just validate any URL inputted to get it into the format you want. One less hurdle to overcome for the user.
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:08 PM   #66
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

please feel free to demonstrate what you mean.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:54 PM   #67
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

I made some more changes based off of a lot of your feedback:

1. Modified the homepage, took away the example feedback video from tester. Still have some work to do on the site copy there but I am trying to use as much white space as possible.

2. Added a demo area so interested users can check out how it works and play around with some features of the widget before they decide to buy. Is there anything that doesn't make sense on this page? There are some "tool tips" when you hover your mouse over each section.

You can actually change whatever you want and save it to the widget on the page. If you want to see how it will look on your own website you can copy and paste the code and plug it into your own site. The recorder will work but you won't get access to any of the recordings that take place from it.

3. Added an updated pricing image. Made it more clear as to what each option offers. I also added "tool tips" for when you hover your mouse over each section of the pricing page to further explain what each feature means.

The only down-side to this pricing right now is that I haven't thought about the best way to offer a free plan. So I am currently offering an extra free user test for each plan, and a 100% money back guarantee if customer is unsatisfied with their feedback.

4. Combined my "sign up" form along with my "submit startup" form. So now users don't have to go through 2 pages, it's combined into one. Also darkened up the text in these forms and made it so the (please use http://) is gone. It will add in the http:// automatically even if the user doesn't put it in.

Let me know what you think? Is it better? Worse? I know I still have some work to do but hopefully this makes everything overall more clear.

http://betapunch.com
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:10 PM   #68
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

I dont have anything to add but man there is some pretty impressive feedback in this thread. BFI is awesome.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:20 PM   #69
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[snip]Let me know what you think? Is it better? Worse? I know I still have some work to do but hopefully this makes everything overall more clear.

http://betapunch.com
Better, definitely, but still too busy, loud and confusing.


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Old 08-16-2012, 11:54 PM   #70
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Better, definitely, but still too busy, loud and confusing.


Really appreciate you taking the time to mock up a new design but I really can't afford to keep re-designing at this point. I have re-designed about 4 or 5 times in the past couple weeks.

I think what might make my current lander seem "less busy" is if I organized the check mark points into 1. 2. 3. steps side-by-side rather than stacking them on top of each other.

Can you elaborate a bit more on what is "confusing." I honestly get very frustrated when I hear that as feedback because I feel like I spend the most time thinking about ways to make it so clear that a monkey could understand it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:55 PM   #71
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I dont have anything to add but man there is some pretty impressive feedback in this thread. BFI is awesome.
I agree. This community is fantastic
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:30 AM   #72
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I made some more changes based off of a lot of your feedback:

http://betapunch.com
I am just a layperson internet surfer with no inside knowledge about websites or layout conventions.

In my opinion your current website layout makes me cringe, gives me a headache, and makes we want to click away as quickly as possible. There is something about the mix of fonts and arrangement that totally confuses my eyes where they start bouncing around without being able to focus on anything.

The duffee layout is 1000x better in my opinion.
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:43 PM   #73
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[snip]Can you elaborate a bit more on what is "confusing." I honestly get very frustrated when I hear that as feedback because I feel like I spend the most time thinking about ways to make it so clear that a monkey could understand it.
Well, I don’t mean incomprehensible. The thing is people don’t read webpages, at first anyway, they scan them. It’s only when visitors determine that your site may be of interest to them do they actually begin to read and attempt to comprehend your offer.

What you want to do is think about all the elements on your landing page (logo, navigation, tagline, benefit statement, etc.) as having a sort of visual volume: the goal being to make what visitors want most, to know that the site benefits them in some way, the loudest. The problem with your site is there are too many equally loud elements competing for my attention and what you really want me to become aware of first, i.e. what you do and what you do for me, gets lost in all the noise.

Now I think you picked up on some of this, for example making your logo quieter by making it smaller, but in another crucial area, your tagline, you tried to overcome the loudness of the rest of your page elements by making it huge. There’s a reason an h1 tag is set ~36px, because that’s about as large a font size people can read without straining. Your h1 tag is a nearly unreadable 81px.

After you’ve prioritized the elements on your page, the next thing you want to look at is flow and how one’s eyes initially move around your page. My eyes track first to your “get started” button which is okay as a sort of “look here first” anchor. Next they go to the monkey’s eyes (mon.ki) then to the “teespring” image and then to the “mail’ette” image, back to the “get started” button, then up to “user testing for the lean startup” and finally down to your benefits’ checkmarks. What’s happening here is that you’re “loudly” answering a question with testimonials and examples I haven’t asked yet or trying to get me to do what I’m not ready to do. Customer logos and testimonials are credibility elements and while they need to be somewhere, they need to be in the background until a visitor has progressed down the funnel and is looking for credibility. Likewise with the sign-up: it’s there for when people are ready to sign-up or to indicate that a sign-up is required if they so choose to partake.

So assuming I’ve stuck around beyond the <2 seconds all the above occurs in, I have two questions: one, is user testing really a benefit to me and two, how does this thing work. Neither question is adequately addressed on your page. “But wait, there’s a scroll bar so I should scroll down to see how betapunch will help me and how it works, right?” Wrong. No answers there, just more things you want me to spend my precious time viewing.

As a remedy, what you want to do is focus first on what’s most important to your visitor, not you. Now a lot of that may have to do with your traffic source, but you should error on the side of visitors not knowing too much about user testing and structure your funnel accordingly. Meaning, make your tagline and benefits the loudest, but not screaming, and soften-up/quiet-up the other “needed” elements on the landing page. For example, colors in your customers’ logos are hugely distracting, so you need to set their opacity to ~50% and reduce their size, otherwise that’s the first thing visitors will be drawn to.

After they know there’s some benefit for them, the next thing they’ll be asking is how it works and how much it costs. You’re trying to get people to sign-up before answering those questions and basically saying, “welcome to betapunch… sign-up now.” That won’t work on cold traffic. What I mean is that it’s one thing to try that tact with warm or presold traffic or returning visitors, but you can’t expect that traffic source to last forever. For pre-sold visitors, it’s akin to responding to a help wanted ad, i.e. they’ll find their way around because they’re keenly aware of the benefits buried somewhere in your site. First-timers simply won’t jump-thru hoops the way you want them to.

Anyway, I hope you don’t take the above too critically. You’re doing what everyone starts out doing: “I’ve made my first logo… ergo I’ll use half the screen to show my brilliant design to the rest of the world…” Ditto with huge and/or “red” text. Those design elements are there for impact, but if everything you’re saying is equally loud, they lose their effect.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:50 PM   #74
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

@duffee wow! This was really useful feedback. I went back to the drawing board and designed something I hope is a lot more simple on the eyes and overall easier for the user to scan. What do you think?

http://betapunch.com
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:43 PM   #75
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Re: Back for some feedback on my online business after many iterations

Why the large amount of white space? Is that for future sites?

How does the site look on mobile screens?

I like the polish on the site; it appears professional and content rich. How are you planning your roll-out?
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