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10-17-2014 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
thanks for the reply

I set up a test page, but cant see how I can go to another persons/company's page and comment or like anything as "test". It's always "me" that has the options. I'm obv missing something crucial
Post up a screen shot and i'll let you know where you are going wrong
10-18-2014 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OFA
Post up a screen shot and i'll let you know where you are going wrong
There are various suggested methods here

http://en-gb.facebook.com/help/commu...42887482418413
10-20-2014 , 01:29 AM
Because it involves so much more than just what he is doing?
10-20-2014 , 01:59 AM
Thanks OFA btw, been reading this and been trying to build my own page with a specific niche that I know about (helps to know what you are talking about). Lot of good advices. Even thought you didn't reply my PM, still wvu.

Posted a video 2days ago, got 2.5k+ likes 500 shares+/100+ comments and 169,216 people reached (got something like 61k+ views). Not that bad, it did boost my likes/reach beyond.

Still waiting on that 20k bar. It is def a grinding process, but It is a fun learning experience.

1) You said no about S4S because of spam issues and getting your likes stolen but, what if you S4S with pages that have more likes/reach than you? And you post that S4S on a specific time/day so you avoid spamming your followers?

2) You said something about you owning Private groups but you didn't talk about this and I think it could be interesting. Would you suggest pages owner to admin groups? How did you start doing groups?

3) I tryed to make some fake FB name accounts (with legit pic and whatnot, not those sexy random girls adding you spamming AM) and add people but it seems that FB is being very very strict about this. Any tips on this ?

I would be interested in knowing your blog URL. PM me please.

thanks again,
Ludovic

Last edited by theplux; 10-20-2014 at 02:06 AM.
10-20-2014 , 12:27 PM
What I have to do to receive your blog URL(big fan of you )?
10-20-2014 , 10:37 PM
I hope you can disclose your blog URL.

Would love to learn more about your tactics - specially more detail on how you choose your target market. Thanks!
10-28-2014 , 04:39 AM
Will answer your Qs in a while plux. Just noticed these replies.

But as mentioned previously, I don't reply to any PMs as I am not looking for anything from anyone so any advice can simply be posted here.

I am not going to post about my blog yet, not sure its a good idea because:
1. I am not doing this to get followers.
2. I have received a lot of abuse in here and via PM so I think it best I don't disclose that info as I have personal details like my name etc on my blog
10-30-2014 , 01:01 AM
pm your blog URL is not "looking for anything from anyone".

Not sure how someone can "abuse" you thru a post or pm?
10-30-2014 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by theplux

1) You said no about S4S because of spam issues and getting your likes stolen but, what if you S4S with pages that have more likes/reach than you? And you post that S4S on a specific time/day so you avoid spamming your followers?
Generally, the only people who want S4S are people who have no reach and as such, sharing with them is not beneficial in the slightest. Also, who is your S4S's audience.
I paid a page with 2m likes £30 per share x 5. After 1 share I cancelled the arrangement as I didnt realise that most of the pages likes were Indians etc. My page was quickly filled with spammers and fake reach, IE if I was reaching 2% of my likes, I now reach that but some of those are the Indians who are no good to me.

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Originally Posted by theplux
2) You said something about you owning Private groups but you didn't talk about this and I think it could be interesting. Would you suggest pages owner to admin groups? How did you start doing groups?
Groups seem to be an untapped resource at the moment. They are a lot easier to get people to join than getting them to like your page. I feel in the next few years Facebook will be putting more emphasis on these groups.
Its as simple as selecting "create a group"

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Originally Posted by theplux
3) I tryed to make some fake FB name accounts (with legit pic and whatnot, not those sexy random girls adding you spamming AM) and add people but it seems that FB is being very very strict about this. Any tips on this ?
If just 1 person reports you it is likely the account will get shut down so dont waste your time. Also, what are you trying to achieve by doing this?
10-30-2014 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tamberlin

Not sure how someone can "abuse" you thru a post or pm?
You have not read the first 200 posts in this thread then. I am happy to stay anonymous now
10-31-2014 , 04:22 PM
Makes sense about the no on s4s. Indians like cost like 2 cent and they have no money so = no revenue.

I was trying to build a second account with 5k friends who were the target audience I wanted. After that my plan was simply to share stuff from my page on my wall along other random stuff so I seem real + getting people on my page/getting bigger reach. People didn't accept my friend requests so pretty quickly I got my first 3 bans and I let that go afterwards since it was too much for what I would be gaining from long term.
11-10-2014 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OFA
I did my final year dissertation entitled "Is Facebook the next Bebo" and got an award for the thing (First class honours too LDO) so did a lot of research in to this. Ill try and dig out an online copy of my summary when I get a chance.
(...)
People are waiting for the next big thing to arrive and when it does I feel it is time for everyone to jump ship (Again, I'll get some time to put my summary from my dissertation together for you) - I made a model called "5 stages of social networking demise" showing that Facebook is now at the stage that Bebo and Myspace got to right before another site came in to take its users.
I'd be highly interested in reading this. Would you be generous enough to put the summary online? Many thanks.
11-20-2014 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OFA
You have not read the first 200 posts in this thread then. I am happy to stay anonymous now
I read all of them and there was no abuse. That people will attack you verbal is usual and means nothing, but for sure not an "abuse". Do you think you need a bodyguard?

Also, I have sent you a tax advice per pm, but if you don´t read them, then bad luck for you.
12-18-2014 , 03:06 PM
Excellent post. Thank you for your contribution and sharing of your experience.

I came across this forum looking specifically for 2014/2015 strategy on building Fan pages for Facebook, and then converting it to web traffic.

As you know, it's not rocket science, but it sure takes a lot of diligence and patience on a zero budget one man job.

I've seen a lot of people have great success within 8 months of just posting as much content as they possibly could.

I do have one question, that may have been answered... it's hard to sift through the trolling... how long until you saw your first real results and something go 'viral'?

Many years ago I caught a 'backdoor' on Facebook where I could reach 2mil+ people on Facebook within 10 minutes, and made a quick $100k in just a few months. Those kind of things run fast and die hard, churn-and-burn. So for now its just diligent posting, content aggregation, and picking AM ad units that convert.

So where are things at now with your projects? How are things going in general? Would like to see a good friendly followup. Thanks, your time is appreciated.
12-21-2014 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SiSi
Excellent post. Thank you for your contribution and sharing of your experience.

I came across this forum looking specifically for 2014/2015 strategy on building Fan pages for Facebook, and then converting it to web traffic.

As you know, it's not rocket science, but it sure takes a lot of diligence and patience on a zero budget one man job.

I've seen a lot of people have great success within 8 months of just posting as much content as they possibly could.

I do have one question, that may have been answered... it's hard to sift through the trolling... how long until you saw your first real results and something go 'viral'?

Many years ago I caught a 'backdoor' on Facebook where I could reach 2mil+ people on Facebook within 10 minutes, and made a quick $100k in just a few months. Those kind of things run fast and die hard, churn-and-burn. So for now its just diligent posting, content aggregation, and picking AM ad units that convert.

So where are things at now with your projects? How are things going in general? Would like to see a good friendly followup. Thanks, your time is appreciated.
Took me a several weeks from starting my first page to getting something that went truly viral. I posted a picture of Mario Balotelli and a load of funny facts about the guy. The post got over 250,000 likes + 10,000 shares. Over the 5 day life span of the post I increased the size of my page from about 4000 to 15000 likes which was HUGE.
The bad news though, is since then, Facebook have restricted virality down to (In some cases) 1% of your fans. They are also going to get rid of ALL unpaid reach in the next few months too meaning that if you want to get new likes you have to pay for them, thus killing virality completely. In the last 2 years I have seen Facebook go through so many stages for people like myself, trying to build pages. Unfortunately we are at the penultimate stage now which means we can no longer grow without spending a fortune.

As for myself. I really have very little to do on my pages now. I am really just trying to maintain them and scrape up any last sign ups that are kicking about. I used to get 100s a month, now I am lucky if I get 25!
One of my good friends is a web developer so we are planning to go into the casino space in the next few months and see what we can do there.
I decided after I got back from the world cup to get a full time sales job as I had so much spare time.
Earning 40k a year from that is not too appealing but unfortunately I am not in a position to apply for anything higher than a bottom rung sales job so I know I have to work my way up to management level in a big company before I can be taken seriously (The second I get a sniff of a new business idea I'll quit the next day!).

As mentioned before, I never replied to any messages I got on this forum, but did get to know rwillia789 through Facebook from this forum so I am sure he can verify everything I am saying for those calling BS on everything
12-21-2014 , 08:40 PM
This thread is really good, thank you for doing it.
So many insightfull stuff in here.
12-24-2014 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dia
This thread is really good, thank you for doing it.
So many insightfull stuff in here.
Appreciate that. Much more fun now the haters have left
01-06-2015 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OFA
Took me a several weeks from starting my first page to getting something that went truly viral. I posted a picture of Mario Balotelli and a load of funny facts about the guy. The post got over 250,000 likes + 10,000 shares. Over the 5 day life span of the post I increased the size of my page from about 4000 to 15000 likes which was HUGE.
The bad news though, is since then, Facebook have restricted virality down to (In some cases) 1% of your fans. They are also going to get rid of ALL unpaid reach in the next few months too meaning that if you want to get new likes you have to pay for them, thus killing virality completely. In the last 2 years I have seen Facebook go through so many stages for people like myself, trying to build pages. Unfortunately we are at the penultimate stage now which means we can no longer grow without spending a fortune.

As for myself. I really have very little to do on my pages now. I am really just trying to maintain them and scrape up any last sign ups that are kicking about. I used to get 100s a month, now I am lucky if I get 25!
One of my good friends is a web developer so we are planning to go into the casino space in the next few months and see what we can do there.
I decided after I got back from the world cup to get a full time sales job as I had so much spare time.
Earning 40k a year from that is not too appealing but unfortunately I am not in a position to apply for anything higher than a bottom rung sales job so I know I have to work my way up to management level in a big company before I can be taken seriously (The second I get a sniff of a new business idea I'll quit the next day!).

As mentioned before, I never replied to any messages I got on this forum, but did get to know rwillia789 through Facebook from this forum so I am sure he can verify everything I am saying for those calling BS on everything
Was wondering what you are doing with yourself these days OFA?. I set up BetAll (dot ie and uk) last year and am only getting around to doing something with it now. I also have loads of ideas for new business but lack the funds. I have great marketing and business strategic experience and good contacts here and there. I am always looking for joint ventures especially with people that have complimentary skills to my own if you would like to get in touch, we could have a chat- I'm in Ireland also. I was busy with other stuff and was tempted to sell Bet All but may hold on to it as I like the kind of figure you are talking about.
01-06-2015 , 01:46 PM
Hi Christy, I'm an IM and would love to talk.

You can't PM, can you send me an email at jcohen@gotocolombia.com

Thanks!
01-07-2015 , 06:01 PM
you can only create a page via your normal FB profile.But once you create that page you can't post in groups with it can you ?

It does not even give you the option to join the group,so how can you directly post in groups with your new FB page ?

tyvm for any help
01-08-2015 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristyD
Was wondering what you are doing with yourself these days OFA?. I set up BetAll (dot ie and uk) last year and am only getting around to doing something with it now. I also have loads of ideas for new business but lack the funds. I have great marketing and business strategic experience and good contacts here and there. I am always looking for joint ventures especially with people that have complimentary skills to my own if you would like to get in touch, we could have a chat- I'm in Ireland also. I was busy with other stuff and was tempted to sell Bet All but may hold on to it as I like the kind of figure you are talking about.
Betall..... Be Tall At least if you don't make money from it from gambling ads you can push tall mans clothes.

I am happy to read your PM if you want to send me ideas on what you are thinking however I very much doubt I would want to invest a penny into someone I do not know
01-08-2015 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by demetri1978
you can only create a page via your normal FB profile.But once you create that page you can't post in groups with it can you ?

It does not even give you the option to join the group,so how can you directly post in groups with your new FB page ?

tyvm for any help
You are correct. You can not join a group with a Facebook page.

The only thing you can do is join the group and spam... Problem is, any group worth spamming will have good admins who will insta ban you
01-18-2015 , 03:09 PM
Interesting one for you to look at.

About 2 years ago, I worked quite closely with one of the guys who makes considerably more than me doing this (He was first in, owned the biggest pages on Facebook and easily tops 2mill a year from it). We started several pages to just boost likes on current ones and in that, we ended up mutually owning a page with 30,000 likes on it. Neither of us really did anything with it and it just sat there.

The other day he messaged me asking if he could buy my half from me as he wanted to try and start posting on it again and gaining new sign ups. I asked him how much he thought it was worth and he said seen as how he spent £3,000 on gaining 16,000 likes on his new page that an offer of £2,500 would be fair. I SNAP CALLED and here is why:

- These likes are not fresh, they are basically obtained from spamming our other pages so you could argue that he basically bought his likes back.
- The page is dead and as per Facebook policy, it will have almost zero reach and as such, 97% of the likes wont ever be spoken to.
- I doubt he will get a single sign up from this page.

I probably would have sold him my half for £500 if he asked. I do believe the page is worth around £1 but I would have been happy to hold my half just incase anything changed on Facebook in the future where it could be potentially useful.
01-19-2015 , 07:56 PM
OFA how wrong you are about prices. I would have paid 5-10k for that page and no others who would. Just because some are struggling with reach, 4-5 of us know how to flip a page and get signups.

The person you sold it 2, well I would say he will make that back within a month.

Facebook is still amazing, just the old lazy ways do not work.

Gutted I missed out on the page
01-19-2015 , 08:33 PM
I cannot vouch for what he has made! But I know people who have made loads more just from the Facebook pages.

The money is still around on Facebook if you are smart

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Originally Posted by SeekingAmy
I was looking online on how to deactivate my bet365 affiliate membership, when I stumbled upon this thread by accident. Having scanned through first few pages, I felt compelled to register just to reply.

First and foremost, social media is an excellent driver for AM, no start up costs involved, with a lot of hard work and dedication you can certainly be getting your first sign ups within a month. Sadly, as with anything that goes mainstream, the market or rather platform has become over saturated and seen a lot of amateurs enter the fray. The popular SM accounts like the Spain Train, FootballAcca, etc have paved the way for a path towards AM for masses.

Indeed, the new betting tips accounts now spawn everywhere. Yet, actually very few are successful and long-lasting. Some tipsters have seen that you hit a ceiling with your AM sign ups and instead now charge people a fee for their tips, monthly or annually as an alternative revenue stream.

The issue I take with the OP, is that he is clearly lying about his figures and misleading others by giving fraudulent advice. There is absolutely no way you've made 250k in space of a year with your current set up. Here is why:

1) Figures don't add up. You claim to have had 3,147 unique Sign ups, out of which only 2,240 have made the initial deposit - yet you claim with your screenshot to have made €216,129.56. Since you only get 30% commission from Bet365 - it would mean that on average every single one of your depositors has deposited at least a little over €320 each into their accounts. And that is not even taking into account that Bet365 affiliates pay out the negative carry over out of their earnings.

2) Low traffic. From that LAD page you've posted, it didn't take me long to link it back to your main betting tips page. Lo and behold, despite over 50k likes, the interaction on the page is minimal. Under your posts, you get a few dozen of comments and likes. How many people actually 'like' a page and then never pay attention to it ever again, I'd suggest 98% of your target audience.

3) Poor content. Having scrolled through some of your posts, I haven't seen anything innovative or engrossing that stands out on your page that will pull people in to part with their cash. Rolling acca, as an example where you have 25 quid and 11 bets later you turned it into 110 quid before losing it. I am not buying it, judging by your comments - your audience doesn't buy it either. It's all been done before, on much larger scale and much much better.

4) Deception. Whether photoshopping or pure dishonesty when you post bets claiming to be of up to 10k-20k on 1 match or in our case you posted a picture of your supposed 'earnings'. Is anyone supposed to believe this nonsense? Especially when you end up losing.



You know what I think? I think you were a casual gambler, possibly first time gambler that got pulled in by one of these successful betting tips accounts and after getting burned you thought if they can do it, I can do it. You replicated their business model (if we can call it such) with some success. After new signs ups dried up - you resorted to posting fake bets of 10k a pop to draw in a crowd, but it takes more than looking at form table to provide decent tips and it backfired. I don't know why you felt the need to deceit people, is it a compulsive liar/sociopath in you or do you just like showing off?

I've earned almost a million in last period... look I can do it too


      
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