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05-18-2017 , 12:15 PM
Saw Brussels is voting on a new austerity plan for Greece and it has caused some social unrest in Greece.

Markets don't seem to care much though.
05-18-2017 , 09:23 PM
"Smart enough to avoid losing my life savings in poker"

The only time I went broke in my life was the one time in 2006. I believe that was also the only time I have ever met you in my life, in 2006.

"Finally, no one here is buying this crap.


Anyway. No one here is buying; "

I heard you the first time. Who are you trying to convince? Do I see a little "downward manipulation" coming from Toothsayer perhaps? He's definitely smart enough to know that he can't decide for anyone, but himself. That's why he's not the TruthSayer.

"If that's impossible, why don't you take a few days off? Don't think about IMUN, don't post about it, don't talk about it, don't read about it. Just go and do something else. Refresh your mind. "

So you can buy your shares before everybody else buys it up?

"I apologize for calling you an idiot. "

MM appreciates the apology, I'm sure.



There is one point I would like to make. And this is one example of many, but I like this example. This was a toxic note that was present on the 2016 annual report, but was conveniently paid off (see publishing on April 12th and 8-k on April 13th) after. If you look at the Q-10 for quarter 1 that was just published May 12th, you'll notice that note is indeed missing from the Notes Payable section. And when did the trajectory of the IMUN graph change? Indeed, it was on April 12th when this came out. This was the biggest concern for investors, obviously, as it is a pretty ridiculous penalty ($5k per day) for only a $100,000 loan. Wait, that seems unfair? Yes, it is usury. This type of note would scare every single one of you 2+2'ers away from this stock. But guess what, it's gone now. Read the latest q-10. Any other toxic notes gone? Yep.

From the 2016 Annual Report, Notes Payable section...

"Promissory notes issued in December 2015. Lenders earn interest at a rate of 10% per month. Notes are repayable on March 9, 2016. $30,000 of principal and $49,000 of interest and penalties were converted to 987,500 shares of common stock in 2016. The Company was unable to repay the remaining note at maturity and the note is in default. The Company is obligated to pay late-payment penalties totaling $5,000 per day on the remaining obligation. "

Oh, but how convenient that they were finally removed - pretty close to commercialization. But it was only a $100,000 loan! Why didn't they just pay it off way earlier, along with all of the other notes that were restructured in the preceding months (see 8-k's)? Well, they likely didn't pay this only $100,000 loan off earlier, because they wanted to "keep investors worried" IN MY OPINION. Just like they seem to like to "keep investors worried" with low cash on hand. It's all just speculation. No way to prove any of these theories of mine.

Here's another one I like. If you look through all the old publishings, you'll find multiple grammatical errors. They almost seem as if they're on purpose and trying to make themselves look bad. Here's my favorite:

This was a pretty important publishing back in May of 2015:

Immune Therapeutics Inc, Announces the official publication announcement of the NAFDAC approved 90-Day Bridging Trial of Lodonal™ with HIV/AIDS Patients.

"announces the public announcement'"!!!!!!! Come on. You're telling me every single employee, every single board member, every single advisor missed this grammatical error on such an important publishing? Hmm, I just don't believe that could happen. JUST MY OPINION.

Again, this is all just my speculation. But I really like my odds on this bet. If you haven't seen the graph as far back as 2012, go and check it out. This thing was once at a very high market cap.

They are smart people. They wouldn't do something if they didn't think they could get away with it. Manipulation is very hard to prove (as it said in one of the links MM posted earlier).

Stone cold gem IN MY OPINION.

Disclaimer: this is not investment advice
05-19-2017 , 01:17 AM
Wait.. is this a new Pump and Dump ad?
05-19-2017 , 04:29 AM
It's an excellent case study in confirmation bias/becoming completely unhinged. Devolving to the level of conspiracy theories now.

I don't feel sorry for him - he's a stone cold idiot who featured his own nest - but I do feel sorry for his family who have to put up with his insane bull****.

Hopefully he'll get treatment for his gambling problem at some point.
05-19-2017 , 06:43 AM
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They almost seem as if they're on purpose and trying to make themselves look bad
Incredible.
05-19-2017 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iSpeculateWellIMO
Again, this is all just my speculation. But I really like my odds on this bet. If you haven't seen the graph as far back as 2012, go and check it out.
I did. Here's TNIB - who changed their name to IMUN - three years ago:

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On August 27, TNIB announced it had received payment and will make its first shipments of Lodonal® to the Republic of Panama and The Republic of Malawi in conjunction with our marketing partner, The Brewer Group, Inc.
So not the first time they've claimed they're on the cusp of major sales coming. But this one is real, in your mind. By the way, here is that claimed "received payment" in 2014:



Revenue for 2014: 0.00

Confronted with the evidence that the stock is a scam, you've come up with a truly bizarre conspiracy theory that the guys supposedly sitting on a wonder drug worth billions have, rather than releasing it, been trying to drive the price of the stock down for 5+ years using fraudulently positive press releases. Even though it was just as cheap two years ago and anyone could have snapped up the whole thing for peanuts. Even though they own said stock, most of it, already, so there's no real point to driving the stock down. And they've been giving stock to lenders as well, diluting their ownership, because...?

You're a stone cold moron. The best hope you have is that they're actually a pump and dump and you get out without losing absolutely everything you own (just most of it, considering you bought much higher).

The fact that you've tried to get family involved in this, persistently, makes you either scum or mentally ill or both. You won't see that until the gambling addiction breaks though. It's the nature of the illness.
05-19-2017 , 07:05 AM
I couldnt copy the spreadsheet this kid did on GSAT, but with the buyout rumors it appears this has very reasonable reward and minimal risk at these prices.

Check out @MaglanCapital message on StockTwits http://stocktwits.com/MaglanCapital/message/83651104
05-19-2017 , 10:11 AM
I jumped on the FMSA grenade. With oil market heating up, and this attracting investors... I flicked it in for 6/sh
05-19-2017 , 10:25 AM
Long HHC 130 calls for October
05-19-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by calmasahinducow
Long HHC 130 calls for October
i think too many people are bullish on manhattan and las vegas real estate ,, they have a competitor, Extell , who is building a couple blocks for their pier 17 project and it will prove to be a horrible place to build (extell) , so it might drag that down some.
05-19-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
i think too many people are bullish on manhattan and las vegas real estate ,, they have a competitor, Extell , who is building a couple blocks for their pier 17 project and it will prove to be a horrible place to build (extell) , so it might drag that down some.
There's risk for sure. Construction delay is a big one (think that's what you are alluding to with Extell?), but there is lots of potential upside at this price. There is still a ton of capital on the sidelines and it has to flow somewhere; NY real estate is a safe bet barring a calamity. Murray Stahl is bullish on HHC also.
05-19-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by calmasahinducow
There is still a ton of capital on the sidelines and it has to flow somewhere
Can you expand on this? What is this capital on the sidelines and who owns it?
05-19-2017 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by calmasahinducow
There's risk for sure. Construction delay is a big one (think that's what you are alluding to with Extell?), but there is lots of potential upside at this price. There is still a ton of capital on the sidelines and it has to flow somewhere; NY real estate is a safe bet barring a calamity. Murray Stahl is bullish on HHC also.
I don't see there being any upside on the Manhattan one building , yes you have your Russians and Chinese buying sight unseen , but once they know the area , prices should drop , also pier 17 is in a better location , but they are priced to perfection , I like their building locations better than extells by ten fold.

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05-19-2017 , 02:11 PM
Ackman also bought up cnbc time to pump hhc.

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05-22-2017 , 06:43 PM
You guys think bitcoin hit a blowoff top today? Almost $200 off the highs from earlier today.
05-22-2017 , 06:50 PM
10% is well within the bounds of normal daily swings for a currency substitute store of value irrational bubble on an imaginary coin.
05-22-2017 , 06:55 PM
Washington Post out with another Trump hit (re: the obstruction of justice claims), market instantly takes a little dive.
05-22-2017 , 07:32 PM
I'm starting to feel like cryptos are getting to the point where we should start looking into how to short/bet against them. Obviously yes, a lot of the altcoins can easily double from here and bitcoin can definitely trade to 4k in the short term but this is part of the game. It probably makes sense to figure out ahead of time what we can do if a negative catalyst makes shorting appealing.
05-22-2017 , 07:39 PM
Bitcoin is such a shady world, you can't trust any of the counterparties for your short in the event of a decent crash. Shorting I would imagine involves holding a larger sum of money than your short, in order to cover the margin. And who's going to be holding it? Shady clowns who'll probably become illiquid/insolvent in the event of a bitcoin crash.
05-22-2017 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Bitcoin is such a shady world, you can't trust any of the counterparties for your short in the event of a decent crash. Shorting I would imagine involves holding a larger sum of money than your short, in order to cover the margin. And who's going to be holding it? Shady clowns who'll probably become illiquid/insolvent in the event of a bitcoin crash.
Yeah literally shorting seems unlikely, but it seems like we'd have some sort of prediction market, derivatives or otb
05-22-2017 , 09:30 PM
Curious to see what this week's got in store
05-23-2017 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
10% is well within the bounds of normal daily swings for a currency substitute store of value irrational bubble on an imaginary coin.


I'm sure this will end well. Even people who invested in tulips are laughing at this!
05-23-2017 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
You guys think bitcoin hit a blowoff top today? Almost $200 off the highs from earlier today.
Probably not. I feel like some of these ALT-coins are wayyy more frothy than BTC though.
05-23-2017 , 09:10 AM
Yeah, I guess not, bounced really hard last night at $2000.
05-23-2017 , 09:37 AM
- Coinbase was down for an extended period due to technical issues.
- Bitcoin is such a cuckshow that this tiny bit of fear was enough to sink something with a $35 billion market cap 10% in 15 minutes
- Coinbase is back online and hence fear is abated.
- It's not in a tulip bubble full of mad speculators, obviously.

      
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