I'm in early on a new company that has a treatment that's shown promise for EVERY medical condition it's been tested on so far. Big Pharma is so scared of it that if you show up to visit a loved one at a hospital, and they can tell you've been treated with it recently, THEY'LL CALL THE POLICE. It's that big a deal. The company is going public soon, PM me for info on how to get in on the HVPB IPO.

It's possible but unlikely, much easier/cheaper to buy calls given it defines your risk. This is likely a big fund/institution stating they are willing to go long $55.5 regardless what happens on earnings next week, will have to wait to see OI to confirm tomorrow.

(Rolls eyes)

I will not argue that there are people in this thread much more knowledgeable about trading... however, you're not one of them.

Save your poor feeble hands the energy and not type any more.about this penny pump n dump, and do something more useful like jacking off or doing better research.

Thanks for the laugh today while I watched my portfolio grow another 7%. You sir are unique for sure. But now Im done with you.

damn, just when i shipped half my money to some nigerian guy so he can recover a sunken ship full of gold to split 50/50, someone else offers the opportunity of a lifetime. guess this is my lucky week.

Good intentions don't make you not an idiot. But let's look at the evidence. You think there's a magic pill that treats 50+ diverse conditions, not realizing that such a thing has not existed in the history of world (and can't exist due the fact that the body is largely tradeoffs). Anyone with intelligence would realize that this is simply false.

I'll take your word for it.

As for explaining, I already have. Granted, it's not easy to grasp issues of epistemology when it comes to clinical trials, but you can't trade bio without doing so.

You're wrong for the same reason this was wrong. This is from 2012, from the company's own PR.
So TNI - now name changed to IMUN for some reason - according to their own company statements, was supposed to be starting Phase III clinical trials in the next year, 5 years ago. Note the big deal, the "around the corner' language that hints you should get in now because it's too late. Such is the nature of penny scammers. Low intelligence chumps (who think they have high IQs) bought up. What happened to their money?

Tell me how the Nigerian thing is better than the event above, on the cusp of PHASE III American trials in the next year after scoring a huge patent portfolio.

This is what pump and dumps do. They have a bunch of plausible stuff going on that seems imminent for HUGE SCORE SOON, but it never pans out. Meanwhile the years roll on and they steal from gullible shareholders with secondaries.
And this is the heart of why you're irrational. You think the drug works, when any rational analysis - after taking into account all the positive studies and possible mechanisms of action - put it at over 99% to not work.

So this cuckshow is sitting on a patented treatment for 50+ major diseases, have passed Phase 2 trials, but the stock is worth $20 million and they can't get anyone to fund a Phase 3? Seems reasonable. Not at all like any of the other 1000+ pink sheet scam biotechs.

I hope that shuts him up , good sleuth work again ts , I still don't know how people fall for this in 2017

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OK Toothsayer,

This is really just directed towards you because you are the only one here that I see that is willing to have meaningful discussion. I appreciate it.

You've made some good points, but nothing that is a definitive answer. Maybe my answers aren't definitive either. People can have a difference of opinion.

"You think there's a magic pill that treats 50+ diverse conditions, not realizing that such a thing has not existed in the history of world"

The diseases treated are mostly related to the immune system, and it is the reason why so many conditions can be treated with one pill, by strengthening the immune system. That's what LDN does. And it is only effective in its lower dose form, not the higher dose form (50mg) that was ALREADY FDA APPROVED in the US back in the 70's/80's. Please go to this website to read more about how LDN works. It explains it far better than I could. If you haven't read about it, please don't bash it. If you have read it in detail, and still don't believe the claims, THEN I would love to heard why you still don't believe the claims...

https://www.ldnscience.org/ldn/how-does-ldn-work

Can you please answer the following questions for me though (as you know more about biotech than I do), so I can see exactly where it is we are getting disconnected (trust me, I heard everything you said, please just follow my questions)...

1) How is it possible that LDN could have passed various Phase 2 trials in the United States if LDN doesn't show at least some sort of promise? The same goes for the bridging trial in Nigeria. How did LDN get approval if you claim it likely doesn't work (specifically in the US I guess I am asking since everyone is just going to say "Nigeria is corrupt, we never would believe that country")?

2) To begin selling in Nigeria, IMUN is only awaiting marketing approval for their drug. This gets granted (just like in the US) after NAFDAC makes a trip to the manufacturing plant and deems the plant to have passed the inspection. 2nd question, do you think IMUN will pass the inspection and be granted marketing approval? Acromax Dominicana is IMUN's manufacturer. You can look them up. If you don't think so, why not exactly?

3) Once granted marketing approval, they will begin selling. Do you believe they will begin selling in Nigeria before the end of 2017? If not, why not? If so, do you agree with my very conservative projections here...?

https://investorshub.advfn.com/board...e_id=131249379

Keep in mind, 150,000 patients would be a very small percentage of the untreated people in Nigeria / Africa with HIV.

Actually, I've explained around 15-20 reasons why I think so, and have refuted everybody's reasons for thinking it's no good. Here are the few things some people have said that I can't refute.

-It's Nigeria, i wouldn't trust them.
-It's a penny stock, I wouldn't trust that.
-They claim success for too many conditions. I wouldn't trust that.
-It's only $20m market cap, it must be worthless crap.
-It's a downward trend, it's likely to just keep going down.

Basically, what I'm trying to get it, is that nobody has any evidence for why this company is NOT LEGIT. People have concerns, sure. I GET IT, trust me. I'm not asking you to buy it. Although the reasoning is a good enough reason for all of you to NOT INVEST if you don't feel comfortable, it is surely not a reason to DETERMINE that IMUN or LDN is not legit. Nobody has told me a single reason why I'm wrong. You just keep giving me reasons why you guys are not interested - you basically would never invest in any penny stock. GOOD FOR YOU! That has nothing to do with the future potential of this company.

I do like some of Toothsayer's points, but I like my points much better to be honest.

Oh my God make it stop
Thank you TS for taking the time to refute all that. I'm sure you saved a few dollars for a lurker or two

MarathonMan, do you really not get that scam-spidey sense when something claims to fix 20+ things (some of which are auto-immune, others not auto-immune)?

My wife has an auto-immune disease. The last thing you'd want to do to cure it is something that boosts the immune system (the way you'd need to to cure aids for example). Right there it's game over, it's a total fabrication. What's more, the IP has been known for what, 50+ years? None of the big pharma's just slapped down 500m for this miracle? They have 500m sitting in their petty cash (hyperbole but not far off). You don't think a dying animal like VRX would say "let's toss these guys 300m for the cure to anything".

This isn't about IQ, it's now about street smarts and super basic common sense. And fwiw the fish all saying the same think sinking with DCIX and DRYS. All were told well ahead of time to get out too.

Marathon hi IQ? Marathon is doing what most idiots do with an oversized position that's not working. He's promoting in the hopes that biggger idiots drive demand. He is definitely the most delusional investor I've come across. This company was once worth a few hundred million dollars. They have spoken at almost every significant health conference over the past few years. Everyone who knew anything have seen them.They have promoted the **** out of this stock and disappointed so many investors that their announcements lead to lower prices. It seems everytime there is buying I find out through marathon it's coming. Completely illegit. The value of this company was below 7 million a month ago. The spirit with which marathon is promoting it and the company and the manipulators feels like total desperation. They are all all in . The only difference is the insiders must know this is a hopeless cause and are attempting one more pump so they walk away with something. The only one who doesn't know is marathon

Perhaps if you can understand how the above sounds crazy then you'll have a better idea of how your posts read to others. If you can still be this dense after enough people more knowledgeable than you on the subject have tried to help you then there's really no hope. The amount of information that refutes your point into the ground is staggering, yet you cling desperately to this irrational (likely emotional) confirmation bias because you want to believe you've nailed a home run in the making.

It could also be that he's that dedicated to his pumping I guess. In which case he's a danger to the forum.

If the mods want to move this train wreck to it's own separate thread that might be better. There might be a chance this guy can be saved though. Or at least any lurkers.

Marathon hi IQ? Marathon is doing what most idiots do with an oversized position that's not working. He's promoting in the hopes that biggger idiots drive demand. He is definitely the most delusional investor I've come across. This company was once worth a few hundred million dollars. They have spoken at almost every significant health conference over the past few years. Everyone who knew anything have seen them.They have promoted the **** out of this stock and disappointed so many investors that their announcements lead to lower prices. It seems everytime there is buying I find out through marathon it's coming. Completely illegit. The value of this company was below 7 million a month ago. The spirit with which marathon is promoting it and the company and the manipulators feels like total desperation. They are all all in . The only difference is the insiders must know this is a hopeless cause and are attempting one more pump so they walk away with something. The only one who doesn't know is marathon

I'm interested in hearing an update from the original cousins perspective

Again, I have already stated this but clearly you didn't read everything I wrote.
The reason big Pharma companies are not backing LDN is because they want the drug to fail. If they did back the drug, they would lose billions and billions of dollars. How? LDN costs $.84 for one pill. Imagine everybody taking drugs for other things that cost thousands of dollars per month all of a sudden get to pay $.84 per day instead (for a drug that could potentially work just as good). Even if this went on on a very small scale, big Pharma companies are losing massive amounts of money. What reason would they have for backing this company? Big Pharma hopes that the company fails, and they don't have to deal with it with no loss. My guess, is once they make it, the company will be acquired as LDN has the potential to disrupt the markets of the big Pharma companies.

Probably the same person behind both accounts

So as a high IQ investor, would you invest in a company that can't even make rent and has to resort to a $65 per month virtual office?

https://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/u...s/facility-656

You would think that the initial round of funding would've at least provided enough to pay rent and build labs or showrooms or stuff.

Even from a sales and fundraising perspective, that is just pathetic.

This latest quote:
Juxtaposed with this:
Is pretty amusing. They have 42 patents, presumably for LDN in the US.

Do you know what a patent is? Do you know what it does? Having a patent means you can charge what you like and legally stop anyone else from using the same drug in the same way.

So either:

- Your big pharma doesn't want it because it sells for .84 per pill claim is total bull****.
- The patents that you imply are valuable are actually worthless

Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

That's priceless. How many bios have you picked as joke investments just by googling the address? A quick address google is probably worth more than all the company PR put together, and certainly more than all the bull**** our friend's cousin types.

Amusingly, their subsidiary Cytocom has exactly the same address, same suite actually, a $65/month office space in Florida.

I mean it's good that they're saving money - I'd hate for them to pay $65/month twice - but you'd think they could spring for some office space.

Given the above, is there even a Nigeria? It's not hard in that country to pay someone off to fake a study. Or for an official to approve it. The approvals process for the "Nigerian FDA" - I'm chuckling just reading that phrase - is super lol.

"So as a high IQ investor, would you invest in a company that can't even make rent and has to resort to a $65 per month virtual office?

https://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/u...s/facility-656

You would think that the initial round of funding would've at least provided enough to pay rent and build labs or showrooms or stuff.

Even from a sales and fundraising perspective, that is just pathetic."



Please explain to me why they need to pay for something more than a virtual office?

You want them to waste money on an office that is not needed? Just build labs and showrooms that will go unused? All for nothing?

Perhaps all they need is a virtual address. There are only 5 employees. They prob work from home if they need to, and travel obviously.

And just build a lab for nothing? What reason exactly? Not sure if you realize their manufacturing plant is in the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure you have an explanation for why the lab or showroom is needed?

If you can give me a reason why they should waste money on these things, then I'll try to refute why they haven't done so.

Correct. Everything I said is true. Both ways buddy. You can't figure it out, can you? Not so bright? I'll spell it out for you...

They have 42 patents (maybe more) related to LDN and MENK drugs.
They do charge whatever they want.
They WANT to go after the African market BECAUSE there are 7.5 million UNTREATED people with HIV in the Western African states. Not to mention it will be more difficult to enter the American market (especially since the market in US is not an untapped market with untreated people). However, it will be WAY easier to enter the US market in a couple years after they've gained more evidence of efficacy in Africa. Pretty smart business plan if you ask me.
They will charge .84, because that is the price they deemed will be affordable by Africans, and will make the company reach max profitability. Not sure what you're missing here. You should realize we're talking about 3rd world countries where many people don't have insurance and are dying off early (life expectancy is ridiculously low in Nigeria / other African countries).

Here are the patents...
https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimag...cuvPatent1.png

https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimag...asmPatent2.png

https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimag...ygjPatent3.png

https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimag...gxePatent4.png

https://investorshub.advfn.com/uimag...dhfPatent5.png


Patents aren't worth at least $98m? Okay, please explain to me what exactly is wrong with my projections? I've asked this more than one time now. People like to ignore the questions they can't answer around here I guess. I have answered everything.


Calculations:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/board...e_id=131249379

MarathonMan,
Companies that claim to build and own billion-pill-a-year manufacturing plants have more than a virtual office. OK?

Here's a TNI (the company you're peddling before the name change) company press release from 2012:

Has this plant been built? Does it exist? Yes or no.

More.
In a later release, TNI claims it's being manufactured by Laboratorios Ramos, an actual manufacturing plant. What the **** happened to the factory they were supposedly building????

In the same release, TNI claimed this in 2013:
Um, what?? It just got approved by the "Nigerian FDA" in 2016. How the actual **** did they, in 2013, expect to sell $50 million worth the following year, and have a distribution agreement already in place, when it hadn't been approved and no trials had been done????????????

Notice again it's on the cusp of big profit...better buy now! They're building billion pill factories! They're going to make $50 million/year in 2014 in Nigeria! None of this came to pass. They didn't sell one pill anywhere in the world in 2014 that I can see.

Why do you think the changed their name? Because the idiots who type in the company name to do research would have noticed this, and known something was up. Instead, they now run into flowery sounding company press releases on NASDAQ.com.

You're an idiot man. You've been conned.

Well, yes, I've researched it , and know multiple people on the drug. So yes, I believe it works from the research I've done. My guess is you haven't done nearly as much research as me, but still try to tell me I'm wrong. Seriously, what's wrong with you people? Do you research before you say these things that are wrong. For all 170 diseases, I don't know. Not enough studies done obviously, but it certainly works well for certain diseases. I'm not the one who wrote the list of 170 diseases so don't ask me to back up my case for all 170.

Right now, all IMUN has to worry about is HIV anyway, so what's your point?