Supposedly a fight broke out outside of Parx yesterday during the $1500 event regarding this matter. Both players were banned for 24hours and kicked out of the casino.

Banned for only 24 hours? LOL! Both players involved must be pit degens

Can anyone shed any light on this?


Sent from my GTO Lab

I was at Foxwoods today and from what I've heard from somebody that was there at Parx, Nick Palma was talking **** to Aaron Massey about Zo. Basically calling Massey out for knowing about how much of a scumbag Zo is but not telling anybody and letting Zo scam people. Massey got pissed and during a break in the tournament, both of them went out in the parking lot and fought. Lasted a few minutes until security broke it up. Then they were both banned for 24 hours and escorted off the property and their money was not refunded. Both lost $1600 each.

I think that was the buy in.

In my opinion Massey should be called out. Allowed that Zo scumbag to go around scamming poker players for pretty big money. And I think he was vocal a few years ago that Dwyte Pilgrim scammed him and was telling everybody about it. Could be wrong about that part though but that's what I heard from a couple people.

But, have you seen his BCP t-shirts?

Aaron massey is one of the most arrogant, purest *******s ive ever met in my life

Pics?

@rep_lol Lucky you, obviously never played with his brother. That's a whole new level.

I know theese wsopc regs in their 30's all look and sound the same but this guy just can't stop talking how Aaron is probably top 3 players in the world and how they got so wasted after busting $330 rebuy in Iowa or something, but they didn't care lolz, because $330 is such a small buy in lolz.

Sick life bro ��

I actually disagree with this. Someone needs to have the "suitcase" of cash at the end of the day to pay for these people who don't have the "suitcase" of cash.

Loaning money should be strictly with immediate friends/family not because you are too lazy to keep cash on you. If that's the case, wire money to the cage - it's substantially easier.

Also, carrying cash inside the US is substantially different than taking it over seas or into the US. Most of these scams, if not all, seem to take place within a specific country.

I never understoood this from tourney players, I travelled quite a bit grinding cashgames all over the world and that is different. But for tourney players it's so easy. Just wire the total amount of your buyins to the cage, if you bink put it in a box and at the end of the series/tournament/trip have them wire it back to you.

Most casino's would even do this for me, and I played 5/10 up to 25/50, so never really had to transfer insane amounts of money. I think I had to bring/take cash to maybe 5% of the casinos I visited, all others were very welcoming in settling funds through banking system. Carrying 20k around is just silly, I also notice it is something that is hardly ever done by people who have an additional 200k in the bank. It's almost always people who do not have a dime over the 20k they carry around like it's nothing. Very faulty logic, but I guess that's why they are broke pokerplayers going from one stake to the next.

ehhh, this might not be the best idea. It can ruin relationships.

I'd say only loan an amount that you can live without, they will not pay back a certain percentage of the time. But it's a nice gesture, if you can help them out.

Is it also possible, people with 20k to their name know far less about wiring/handling/managing money than people with an extra 200k in the bank?

I always find that people that carry a lot of cash around have negative bank accounts and stretched credit facilities or have cash from illegal means

These people weren't born with 200k in their accounts. It is just a thing I noticed from people. People that carry around a lot of money in cash generally tend to make poor life decisions.

Yes, this is also true.

LOL these posts are hilarious. I'm not saying what you wrote is entirely untrue, but given the context...what you said is pretty stupid. You do understand that we're talking about a person who plays HS poker MTTs on the reg, right? Like...if you go to a poker tournament stop, even a small one like a WSOPC stop, and definitely to a big one (series w/ WPT main, or summer WSOP)....you realise that pretty much every single person there has 20k+ cash on them, right? Like literally almost every single one of them, at least the regs/pros. If it's a local that has a box at the casino they may have most of their cash in their box but they're still probably going to have 10-20k cash on them because that's absolutely normal. These posts are pretty ridiculous considering the context. If it was a random drug dealer or something then okay, but we're talking about a poker player who actually NEEDS to carry cash around on them.

I have played multiple 50k+ schedules at EPT stops, have played 4 full WSOP series for over 100k a year and travelled the world playing 5/10, 10/20 and 25/50 and only a handful of times did I carry around 20k+ in cash. Never have I ever even come close to losing that amount of cash.

Carrying such an amount around in cash is just not smart, get your logistics together. On top of that there is literally nobody that believes Zo lost that money by losing his bag. He either used it to pay off old debts, or lost in in the pit.

I've played plenty of 5/10 and 10/25 live cash myself and if you're telling me it's not normal for players in those games, and even players in 2/5 games to not carry 20k+ cash, you're crazy. It's obviously very common. If you avoid carrying it around somehow while doing all that traveling, good for you. I guess you're being extra safe, but it seems unnecessary.

I never said anything about losing money. I agree that it's almost impossible to lose the cash. Zo obviously didn't lose this money lol. Anyone who believes that is a clown. I'm pretty sure we are agreeing on most things here. I know tons of people who've carried around similar (and larger) amounts of cash, and I don't think I know of anyone who lost money except for 1 person who left it in a "friends" trunk a few summers back and it disappeared. In that case it seemed pretty obvious that one of the two "friends" who knew it was there stole it, and the person who left the bag there was probably kind of dumb for doing so. Either way, it's not nearly what I'd consider unsafe to carry around cash. Zo never lost a backpack and I made my post under the assumption that everyone here knew that was a lie on his part.

More Zo stories please.


Sent from Fantasy Land

WSOP time, any Zo updates?