I'm so glad NVG aren't TDs your ideas are for the most part ******ed

Allen had 2 good ideas in OP; 20k mincash and 1k GTD for November 9. From there the payouts should be as gradual as possible with increases. First should be somewhere around 6-7.5m

Based on 7k entrants @ $9,400 to prizepool

All spots 45+ pay more than last year except first obv, most spots from 200-800 pay 2-4k less as it decreases. Spots 46-99 get hurt the most compared to last year but its nothing tragic. You can make first an even 7mill and make the 200-800 payouts the same as last year and increase some of the mincashes, but 8mill for first is nice

1 $8,000,000
2 $5,501,000
3 $4,501,000
4 $3,700,000
5 $2,900,000
6 $2,000,000
7 $1,400,000
8 $1,150,000
9 $1,000,000
10 $775,000
11 $700,000
12 $635,000
13 $585,000
14 $525,000
15 $450,000
16 $400,000
17 $375,300
18 $375,000
19-27 $305,000
28-36 $235,000
37-45 $190,000
46-54 $150,000
55-63 $115,000
64-72 $93,000
73-81 $77,000
82-90 $70,000
91-99 $62,000
100-135 $53,800
136-198 $44,500
199-270 $37,500
271-360 $29,000
361-450 $25,000
451-540 $22,000
541-630 $20,000
630-720 $18,500
720-801 $17,400

1st - 60 Million

2nd - Last

Talking out of my ass here, but flatter payout structures and deeper stacks, though I have no idea how to accomplish the latter without making the tournament longer.

Oh, and employ people to punch tournament players who wait for their turn before sweating their cards for 10 seconds every ****ing hand.

very nice

I'm retired from MTTs but:

when it comes to something as big as the WSOP ME everyone already knows that 1st gets a tonne of money without needing to advertise or guarantee it. most amateurs also know instinctively that they won't make it to the final table, so final table payout guarantees won't be worth much to them anyway.

I like guaranteeing a total prize pool, that 1000 people make at least 1.5x their money, flattening the payouts and then giving an estimate on the number of millionaires created based on trends.

I just wish they'd ditch the ******ed November 9 format and just play it through.

With the live streaming now, it does make the N9 a little less 'whatever it was'

If they could live stream the entire WSOP Main event, with some mobile cameras on the floor and a couple of feature tables to switch up the action, it would be massive

I had people texting me watching the final table live stream on ESPN who havent played a lick of poker in their life asking me about it and telling me who they think will win etc.

The live aspect of playing for big money is very exciting, I think the entire main event live on ESPN for 7 days in a row would be fantastic for the WSOP and poker overall

Agreed. Easy to do online. Much harder in the pavilion room with hundreds of tables and people busting out all the time.
But I agree, we should do more to discourage stalling.

award 35m for first and 15 bracelets then you could be all time money and bracelet winner

marketing dept wet dream

Lol I said winner takes all and my post got deleted ( yet lots of people have posted it since, whatever ).. Winner take all tournaments are much more exciting on the final table etc, poker needs that excitement back..

Also people are saying it has to focus more on real poker and not the tournament ( icm ) aspects that recs don't understand nearly as well as regs do, this takes that away completely

I was drunk and even pointed out that as a major flaw lol. Wasn't gonna spend another 15 minutes fixing it when it's not even a real thing haha just something to kill the time for a few minutes. I do think there should be a big jump for 9-10 but not 3x like mine was.

Not bad but I'd like to see more money 15th-99th.

I'd let barryg do it. He came up with a very nice payout 5-6 years ago IIRC based on a simple formula, although he might have gummed it up just a little bit by making sure everyone at the final table made $1M.

This

winner takes all, who the hell cares about anything but winning .

Heres another look shedding some weight off the top and distrubuting more amongst the top 200 and specifically the 10th-18th

I've also created more minor payjumps, such as 19-20/21-23/24-27 instead of 19-27 which has always bothered me. I dont like 27th earning as much as 19th. The payjumps happen when each table has an even number of players.

Now all spots from 230 and up pay more, the rest less. The most hurt are playings 270-288 who earn 8k less (38k-30k) because of the different payout tables I've used. Probably an easy fix I'll look at later.

I like paying 800 players, but its tempting to pay 720 and distribute the 1.4mill it frees up elsewhere

1 $7,500,000
2 $5,301,000
3 $4,102,000
4 $3,500,000
5 $2,800,000
6 $2,000,000
7 $1,350,000
8 $1,150,000
9 $1,000,000

10 $775,250
11 $775,250
12 $615,000
13 $615,000
14 $501,000
15 $501,000
16 $402,000
17 $402,000
18 $402,000

19-20 $360,000
21-23 $325,200
24-27 $315,000

28-32 $255,000
33-36 $235,000

37-45 $190,000
46-54 $150,000
55-63 $125,000
64-72 $110,000
73-81 $87,500
82-90 $75,500
91-99 $65,500

100-135 $55,000
136-171 $50,000
172-199 $46,000
199-234 $40,000
235-270 $37,500
271-360 $30,000
361-450 $25,000
451-540 $23,000
541-630 $20,000
631-720 $18,500
721-801 $17,400

There was a shade under $28 million up for grabs at the Main Event Final Table last year. Although it would certainly be gimmicky, I can tell you that $20 million for first place and $1 million each for 2nd through 9th place would be much more exciting to watch for the average viewer (actually for almost any viewer) than all that strategic laddering last year.

Let's face it, ICM considerations do not tend to make for great TV, but making the Main Event Final Table essentially a Winner Take All does.

1st = 7M
2nd= 6M
3rd= 5M
4th = 4M
5th= 3M
6th = 2.5M
7th = 2M
8th = 1.5M
Mark Newhouse = 999.999$
10th-12th = 750K
Then 100K/50K/25K/10K drops down to 25K (can't be bothered to do the math)
And a min-cash for ~10% of the field = 10K, plus xxxx$ for travel and hotel for a week the next year (xxxx$ travel and accomodation prize can be exchanged to 80% of it in cash, difference would be bagged by WSOP)

i can not understand why there is so many of you saying that 10Mil Gtd would make for good TV marketing wise and that´s why they think its a good idea.

this is complete bs imho. im not saying that casual viewers won´t be like "wow wtf..so much?!" but im saying: 1Mil does the exact same for 99.9% of these ppl. There is so little to be gained by increasing the Gtd for 1st and the money that is "wasted" there could be very well used to increase winnings of 100s of casual players who will help the poker economy much more having more money to spend in poker tournaments.

all over the world millions watching tv shows where a potential winner wins just 100k.
if your annual income is at least 34k dollars you belong to the Elite 1% so how the fk should a bunch of guys playing cards for a potential mill NOT draw the casual viewer in front of the TV?!

+1

Ya the whole "marketing" argument in any form is pure speculation. They should have some kind of quick survey to get real answers from wsop event participants to determine how much more or less likely they would be to play the main next year based on a variety of factors and make some actual data driven decisions.

I would bet that a majority of them would rather see more money 10th-200th than a 10m to 1st.

This actually sounds like a great idea. Never going to happen, but still ...

6.xM for first is way enough, i don't see why you would give more than 10% for first on a almost 7k players tournament.
It's already almost too much.