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Old 07-17-2009, 06:53 PM   #406
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

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Why does Hollywood Dave think he is a gangsta? Always giving the Westside sign, dude you are from Ohio.

I would like to see Phil Hellmuth make another video like this in current day. Back in 2004 or so he was talking about online cheating and how the sites would never allow it to happen Video From Phil Hellmuth's Million Dollar Secrets Discussing why sites make sure games are fair (Thx for posting it Pokerati)

At about 2:17 in

"As far as the sites being crooked or not, No."

"The most important thing to them is to make sure that their games are on the square"

"It just drives me crazy when I see alot of people complaining about being cheated. I just shake my head and say I'd like to see their Hand Histories"
Hollywood Dave is the biggest douche on earth. Look at that ****ing hat! What a colossal wannabe/douche. It would be one thing if he actually had talent...
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:42 PM   #407
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

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MASON MALMUTH IS A DOUCHE

Mason, explain to everyone why you are so anti-neverwinpoker, yet seem so quiet on the topic of Russ Hamilton, UB, and the cheating.

How come, when you appeared on your own radio show on December 1st, 2008, to discuss the "60 Minutes" episode that aired about the cheating, you spent the ENTIRE TIME talking about our site instead?

You did not mention ONE WORD about Russ Hamilton, Scott Tom, or any of the other cheating that cost our community well over 20 million dollars. Instead, you obsessed over this harmless site.

GET YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER, you self-righteous *******.



mason can you confirm the validity of any of this?
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:06 PM   #408
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

Dan Druff would be greatly improved as a person if he hired someone to kick him in the nuts every time he steps out of his front door, only to stop when he stops deserving it.
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Old 07-23-2009, 05:33 PM   #409
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

I really can't believe how horrible Mason is.

Todd is a stand up guy who only wants the best for poker
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:49 PM   #410
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

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Find a way to get them to a detailed and clear scandal summary, and let them decide about UB. Hell, you might influence someone who was going to deposit new money to just go somewhere else.
I started playing at UB because I live in the US and they were the only one I found where I could pay with prepaid debit cards so as not to use my real info because I was paranoid about it being illegal and I work in the casino industry. lol.

I still play there because it's what I'm used to, but I frequently tell people about the cheating and tell the to look up "cbs dot com" 60 minutes story. Folks can feel free to pm me better places to play and why if they want to (I like offbeat games besides just hold em too: 2-7 low ball PLO/HL).

anyway then I saw this stuff on 60 minutes and like a day or two later what do I see but a player obviously playing two spots at a table and I complained and sent the screenshot to ub and no reply.

I do some website design and I'd be happy to put up such a site if someone provided me the information and paid for the hosting.

if there was one, short domain name that could collect all the info and be publicized widely - that would do it. it could also collect all the crap folks like me who see this crap and don;t know who else to tell. hats and badges help but word of mouth goes pretty far nowadays on here if there were one main easy to remember resource for the info.

I started setting up my own little site to crosspost the news stories and stuff (among other things) like the 60 minutes thing and I tweet them when I see them too but one main site, short easy to remember URL is really needed for this stuff!

I just registered a few "dirtydeal." names so let me know if anyone wants to use them, I also thought of another good one but can't buy them all myself.


here is a screenshot of the ub thing I reported (6/25/09):



also, being a dealer makes more more observant about oddities and looking for cheating and I have to say sometimes I see stuff that makes me think people have to be able to see cards or even know what is coming it seems like sometimes. their behavior is just too unusual but at the same time I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist and some people are just really dumb!



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Old 07-27-2009, 12:11 AM   #411
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

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What exactly are your questions ?

I'm not "trying to drag" anyone "into this". I'm using well-known celebrity endorsers such as Ferguson & Waterston to make the point that Witteles' behaviour , insinuations and accusations made against Hellmuth at WSOP ( and by extension on his blog ) are totally absurd and if you want to go that route you might as well similarly attack lots of other celebrity endorsers.

If you're asking whether a Hellmuth equity interest in UB somehow taints his endorsement ... well, that's kind of outside of the scope of my points ... but I would say that it depends on what exactly Hellmuth's endorsement implies.

I don't spend a lot of time reading UB promotional stuff , but looks to me like Hellmuth's endorsement implies only the following :

"I'm Phil Hellmuth. I'm a big poker star, maybe the biggest. I play online on Ultimate Bet and so should you."

What do you think PH has been implying in his endorsements ?

I really don't see any of the celeb proker pros making much in the way of specific claims about a site. Maybe some of the FTP pros are offerring a chance to enter their milieu ( "learn, chat, play" ) , but other than that I would say it's just generalized star power attraction, as is usually the case with celeb endorsements.

That's how it usually is. I don't remember MJ or Kobe or Lebron ever making specific claims about Nike the shoe or Nike the company other than "I'm a bad mofo on the court and I the wear Nikes" ...

who the **** let Hellmuth's lawyer register on this site and for that matter let continue to post after the fact?
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:30 AM   #412
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Re: WSOP Dan Druff calls out Phil Hellmuth over UB cheating at tv table

sorry if this was posted already

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