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I suppose the flop 3bet is definitely questionable but as played, folding the turn to the checkraise isn't terrible, right? He was only beating a bluff that would take massive balls to pull off.

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06-04-2017 , 04:15 AM

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jungleman

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lol at that hand, so much wrong about it

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06-04-2017 , 04:55 AM

#153

MagikarpFTW

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No Vegas for you this year Jungle?

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06-04-2017 , 02:56 PM

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billstraightener

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Originally Posted by Atarirob

I sorta agree with that, I know when the MSPT came to Michigan this year they popped a big turn out. Then again that and the HPT usually only run one 1k tournament and leave town. I know the circuit events have more of a schedule. Its far from going to Vegas in the summer and having action everywhere. But I get your point and I think I might agree with you.

Update
One Drop numbers are down.

2017: 130 (correction WSOP.com originally reported 132...29% drop)
2016: 183
2015: 135 (was there reentries?)
2013: 166

Another number that is trending downwards are the daily deepstacks. Tracking the 2pm $235, 2016 and 2017 both had the Colossus right up front in the beginning weeks, here's how they matched up.

2017 first four days: 380,538,706,597 averaging 555 each day
2016 first four days: 538,811,569,739 averaging 660 each day

that's a 16% dip so far.

Today we have the continuation of Colossus which after 1A-1B last year had 5,402 runners, this year it has drawn 4,738. Also the $2.5k Mixed Triple Draw which last year drew 236 runners.

Thanks, These posts are appreciated

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06-04-2017 , 03:05 PM

#155

w00t

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Dead and dying.

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06-04-2017 , 03:17 PM

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timber63401

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Originally Posted by -ThePimp-

Players can't afford with the rising costs of vegas anymore?

Definitely part of it. Went to my local room yesterday and talked to 3 people that's been going out there anywhere from 6-15 years that aren't going this year. All played cash and a lower buy-in bracelet event or 2 out there, and the combo of the expense to get out there and WSOP curcuit events and HPT events either at their home room or close to it are keeping them home. Small sample size I know but it cant be to uncommon of a reason that the numbers are down out there.

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06-04-2017 , 03:34 PM

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AllInNTheDark

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Should be a good day:

* Day 3 of One Drop featuring an especially stacked table 3.
* 10k O8 starts
* Lot of top players left in day 2 of Mixed TD (CL at table w/ Ian Johns, Naoya Kihara, Carol Fuchs... Mercier, BS-H and Bleznick... Volpe, Greenstein, and Maria Ho... Martin Staszko & ODB)

Last edited by AllInNTheDark; 06-04-2017 at 03:54 PM.

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06-04-2017 , 03:49 PM

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Atarirob

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Originally Posted by timber63401

Rising cost for travel, resort fees, and parking fees doesn't help. On top of local events nearer to home.

The 2.5k Triple Draw Mix came close to hitting last years number. It drew 225, just 11 short of last years field. You have the day 1's finishing up for the Colussus today, it should come well short of last years number. We also have the 10k O8 coming up, last year it had 163 players.

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06-04-2017 , 03:55 PM

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yimyammer

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Originally Posted by jungleman

lol at that hand, so much wrong about it

please elaborate kind sir!

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06-04-2017 , 03:57 PM

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AllInNTheDark

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Originally Posted by Atarirob

I got great deals on rooms this summer, but flights are substantially more.

Seems like mixed games are pretty steady, maybe a slight decline.
It's NLH that offers big events everywhere and may take a larger hit.

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06-04-2017 , 04:27 PM

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GazzyB123

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Keep the "up or down on last year" posts coming!

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06-04-2017 , 04:40 PM

#162

w00t

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Phil Hellmuth folds best hand ?

https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...ips.163457.htm

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06-04-2017 , 04:41 PM

#163

YeahYou

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The best part of the hand was Phil insta 3 betting flop for less than the minimum

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06-04-2017 , 04:54 PM

#164

Tutejszy

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leave to Hellmuth to turn trips into a bluff and even then instead of winning the minimum actually lose the hand

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06-04-2017 , 04:56 PM

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Pcallinallin

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Not providing a free stream is the moment WSOP jumped the shark. After 10+ years of loyally following the WSOP I am no longer a spectator.

Greedy bastards.

Last edited by Pcallinallin; 06-04-2017 at 04:57 PM. Reason: This never would have happened if Ronald Regan were the President.

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06-04-2017 , 05:56 PM

#166

Hendricks

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Can only hope Kaverman busts soon. He's excruciatingly slow.

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06-04-2017 , 05:57 PM

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Tommy_Tomich969

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At least pokernews have the updates back as well as the wsop website now. Their layout is so much easier to read.

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06-04-2017 , 06:08 PM

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Lemon93PCTSure

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so
no stream guys?
Just paid one somewhere?

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06-04-2017 , 06:10 PM

#169

Hendricks

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Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure

so
no stream guys?
Just paid one somewhere?

Yep, just on PokerGO. $10 for a month.

https://www.pokergo.com

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06-04-2017 , 06:29 PM

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Utah_CUtiger

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wish they updated the eliminations more quickly. I don't want to go check the WSOP updates because I might see a spoiler

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06-04-2017 , 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hendricks

Can only hope Kaverman busts soon. He's excruciatingly slow.

huge deliberate tank just now

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06-04-2017 , 06:36 PM

#172

Hendricks

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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger

huge deliberate tank just now

He is honestly brutal to watch live. You can tell the other players think he is absurd too.

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06-04-2017 , 06:40 PM

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JeffroSTL

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Chip counts on the stream are way off. They're listing Robl with a hair over a million. He has at least that much in white chips with two stacks of black underneath. That's 2M right there.