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I know lolnvgstrat and all, but isnt better to just flat with KTs since it flops so well? what are the good things about 3betting there? only reason I can think of is to bully with the big stack

i like the call there on the BTN too (utilize that position).

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07-16-2017 , 03:43 PM

#2878

Kid-A

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There is no version of Antonio coming up with a new phrase on commentary.

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07-16-2017 , 03:45 PM

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yimyammer

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Originally Posted by z44

On the other hand I have to hand it to Phil Hellmuth he is an outstanding public speaker. So refined and well spoken. Capable of light hearted banter, thinks on his feet and with a lot of insight and some touches of humor. Fantastic complement to Kara Scott.

I've always thought so as well, I first heard him when he did play by play of the main event over his cell phone. I forgot how I listened, either there was an internet connection or I called in.

Anyone else remember this and listened (I think it was the 2000 ME)?

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07-16-2017 , 03:45 PM

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dudeoflife

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Originally Posted by KansasCT

I know lolnvgstrat and all, but isnt better to just flat with KTs since it flops so well? what are the good things about 3betting there? only reason I can think of is to bully with the big stack

Stacks were perfect for Ruane to 4 bet there. Definitely prefer flatting against someone that is capable.

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07-16-2017 , 03:48 PM

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dudeoflife

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Originally Posted by Kid-A

So lame when players pull their hoodies round the side of their face over their mouth.

Pretty ridiculous look for Michael. Don't really want to root for someone hopes and dreams to be crushed but he's going to be super tilting to watch if he goes deep.

Last edited by dudeoflife; 07-16-2017 at 03:55 PM.

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07-16-2017 , 03:53 PM

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iTz gUidO yO

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Originally Posted by Kid-A

So lame when players pull their hoodies round the side of their face over their mouth.

I personally think it's a cool fashion look. Upsheka De Silva did it a lot during a main event. Kind of resembles wearing a mask around your mouth and nose.

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07-16-2017 , 03:54 PM

#2883

dudeoflife

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Surprised AA got action there. No one is 3
Betting light vs utg+1 open from the bb with both around 23bb.

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07-16-2017 , 03:55 PM

#2884

PuraVida96

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Originally Posted by ligastar

there's been a lot of bitching about the espn/pokergo schedule these past few days, but we're going to see ALL the action from 85 players to 1. that's pretty damn good, you know.

i think one improvement they could make for days 2a/b, 2c, 3, 4 and 5 going forward would have fans vote for one of the featured tables to start the day (give them 4 or 5 options in the vote).

Is pretty nice to get 85 -> 1. I guess I get not wanting make the commentators do 12+ hours of coverage everyday for a week and a half and maybe going with a pre-dinner and post-dinner commentary team is cost prohibitive (they are getting paid right??). I like going day 1s for the start but I'd much prefer they drop the first two levels of coverage days 2-5 in order to get the post-dinner levels.

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07-16-2017 , 03:57 PM

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PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO

I personally think it's a cool fashion look. Upsheka De Silva did it a lot during a main event. Kind of resembles wearing a mask around your mouth and nose.

You've been on 2+2 for 10 years. Did you sign up when you were 5?

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07-16-2017 , 03:59 PM

#2886

black666

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Originally Posted by ligastar

there's been a lot of bitching about the espn/pokergo schedule these past few days, but we're going to see ALL the action from 85 players to 1. that's pretty damn good, you know.

You do know that the world is bigger than the USA and not everyone has access to ESPN?

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07-16-2017 , 04:00 PM

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parisron

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07-16-2017 , 04:02 PM

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scullion44

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Originally Posted by black666

You do know that the world is bigger than the USA and not everyone has access to ESPN?

I googled ' ESPN2 live stream ' and immediately found a stream..

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07-16-2017 , 04:04 PM

#2889

loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by groton

ugh. the fact is math nothing to do with talent. Poker is something that anyone can do and does not require physical strength. If women played at the rates men do they could be just as good. Same with competitive gaming. its the fact that for every one hundred men playing there is four women playing so they dont have the large pool to have as many wizards.

This is false. Men have better spatial awareness and better reaction times. That doesn't mean there won't be outliers but for the most part these activities will continue to he dominated by men. (and there's nothing wrong with that.)

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07-16-2017 , 04:04 PM

#2890

suzzer99

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That AA vs. KQs hand and Kim tanking is why I love this part of the ME so much. The players are so close - they can taste $1M+ and possible poker fame. It adds so much weight to everything.

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07-16-2017 , 04:05 PM

#2891

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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

This is false. Men have better spatial awareness and better reaction times. That didn't mean there won't be outliers but for the most part these activities will continue to he dominated by men. (and there's nothing wrong with that.)

Neither of those have anything to do with poker.

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07-16-2017 , 04:08 PM

#2892

z44

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what's with the lack of rails?

I remember Lamb having a huge drunken rail in both his last deep runs. Here there's no one.

Also where are the Brits for Silver?

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07-16-2017 , 04:10 PM

#2893

loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Neither of those have anything to do with poker.

I was referring to pro gaming but I see my wording was poor as it sounds like I included poker.

But for poker, men are more competitive and they represent a large majority of the higher end of intelligence. (although the latter is likely a lesser factor as tournament poker isn't at all like chess)

The biggest factor imo is simple. Men and women have different interests.

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07-16-2017 , 04:19 PM

#2894

eddieriggs

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Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO

I personally think it's a cool fashion look. Upsheka De Silva did it a lot during a main event. Kind of resembles wearing a mask around your mouth and nose.

Are you serious? It is ****ing terrible.

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07-16-2017 , 04:20 PM

#2895

Utah_CUtiger

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This is pretty boring so far let's be honest

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07-16-2017 , 04:26 PM

#2896

z44

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Originally Posted by Utah_CUtiger

This is pretty boring so far let's be honest

good players but bad personalities.

Need someone with a little bit of life and pizazz. Hopefully Marcel Luske continues to run deep.

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07-16-2017 , 04:29 PM

#2897

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

I was referring to pro gaming but I see my wording was poor as it sounds like I included poker.

But for poker, men are more competitive and they represent a large majority of the higher end of intelligence. (although the latter is likely a lesser factor as tournament poker isn't at all like chess)

The biggest factor imo is simple. Men and women have different interests.

I'm gonna assume you've read numerous peer-reviewed studies to back up the bolded?