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07-17-2017 , 03:27 AM
Are we still at 28 players?
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07-17-2017 , 03:28 AM
Just noticed that the guy, Richard Dixon, who Negreanu put in the Main finished 5th in the Little One for One Drop for $134k......
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07-17-2017 , 03:28 AM
Does anyone know how many players are left? 29??

Edit: I just saw Suzzer's post. So are there 28 left now?

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07-17-2017 , 03:29 AM
28 left. They are playing until 1 more elimination
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07-17-2017 , 03:33 AM
Thank you.
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07-17-2017 , 04:03 AM
damn Ott just dusted off almost 7 million that hand with A3
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07-17-2017 , 04:03 AM
HESP HESP HESP!!!
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07-17-2017 , 04:03 AM
Hesp resurgence!!
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07-17-2017 , 04:04 AM
Hesp feeling it! Gogogo. Hope he's on the feature tomorrow.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iTz gUidO yO
damn Ott just dusted off almost 7 million that hand with A3
That KQ double barrel earlier by Hesp reaped dividends there.
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07-17-2017 , 04:06 AM
“I am to poker what Donald Trump is to politics.”

^from his pokernews interview

the jacket is dope
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07-17-2017 , 04:54 AM
One of Pham, Olivera or Messina will spew off and miss the final table tomorrow, it has to happen. Stoked to see Bennie Lamb, Saout, Luske, Ruane and Theczar19 still in.
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07-17-2017 , 04:56 AM
Pretty good chance of Lamb at the FT. Between Ruane and Saout (both on slightly below average stacks), you'd think maybe one of them can join him. Could be some interesting stories there. Marcel Luske also still alive, but in shove mode with ~10 BBs.

Average stack for the FT will be about 40M, so 30-35M would put someone in good position. That would be a good number to hit tomorrow.
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07-17-2017 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Tomich969
One of Pham, Olivera or Messina will spew off and miss the final table tomorrow, it has to happen. Stoked to see Bennie Lamb, Saout, Luske, Ruane and Theczar19 still in.
What's the biggest meltdown in main event history?

Off the top of my head...

Andy Black - 2005
Scotty Nguyen - 2007
Billy Kopp - 2009

I almost hope for their sake that no one collapses like that tomorrow. The regret has to be brutal.
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07-17-2017 , 05:11 AM
Someone mentioned Billy Kopp probably quit poker after that hand vs Darwin Moon and I would have to agree that would be the appropriate response.
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07-17-2017 , 05:57 AM
Final 27 Stats -

Rank/Name/Chips
Location
Lifetime Tourney Cashes
Previous Main Event Cashes
Bracelets

1) Christian Pham - 31.44m
St. Paul MN USA
$563k
None
ONE ($1500 2-7 Single Draw 2015)

2) Valentin Messina - 28.59m
Pantin, FRANCE
$1.1 MILLION
None
None

3) Jack Sinclair - 27.535m
London, UK
$13.5k
None
None

4) Ben Lamb - 25.685m
Las Vegas, NEV, USA
$7.2 MILLION
156th ('07) 14th ('09) 3rd ('11)
ONE ($10k PLO Championship, 2011)

5) Pedro Oliveira - 22.54m
PORTUGAL
$338k
None
None

6) John Hesp - 20.88m
Bridlington, UK
$2k
None
None

7) Randy Pisane - 18.37m
Hoboken, NJ, USA
$7k
None
None

8) Scott Blumstein - 18.125m
Morristown, NJ, USA
$312k
None
None

9) Richard Dubini - 14.975m
Rio Gallegos, ARGENTINA
$1 MILLION
295th ('14)
None

10) Bryan Piccioli - 14.5m
Allegany, NY, USA
$1.9 MILLION
958th ('15) 84th ('16)
None

11) Richard Gryko - 13.76m
Romford, UK
$1 MILLION
50th ('06)
ONE: (€3k PLO, WSOPE 2015)

12) Jonas Mackoff - 12.05m
Vancouver, BC, CANADA
$704k
63rd (2015)
None

13) Michael Krasienko - 11.43m
Grafton, OH, USA
$173k
343rd ('16)
None

14) Robin Hegele - 11.15m
Munich, GERMANY
$48k
None
None

15) Antoine Saout - 9.945m
Paris, FRANCE
$5.5 MILLION
3rd ('09) 25th ('16)
None

16) Michael Ruane - 9.34m
Hoboken, NJ, USA
$2.6 MILLION
4th ('16)
None

17) Benjamin Pollak - 8.87m
Paris, FRANCE
27th ('13)
None

18) Alexandre Reard - 8.58m
Beaubourg, FRANCE
$981k
497th ('16)
None

19) Karen Sarkisyan - 8.105m
Moscow, RUSSIA
$1.25 MILLION
594th ('12)
None

20) Daniel Ott - 7.815m
Altoona, PA, USA
$4k
None
None

21) Damian Salas - 7.8m
Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA
$919k
606th ('13), 418th ('16)
None

22) David Guay - 7.4m
Montreal, QC, CANADA
$128k
None
None

23) Scott Stewart – 6.32m
Lakewood, CA, USA
$606k
None
None

24) Florian Lohnert – 5.36m
GERMANY
$23k
None
None

25) Jake Bazeley – 3.915m
Cincinatti, OH, USA
$3.5 MILLION
66th (’11) 274th (’13)
None

26) Marcel Luske – 2.99m
Almere, NETHERLANDS
$4.5 MILLION
14th (’03) 10th (’04) 102nd (’12) 261st (’13)
None

27) Michael Sklenicka – 2.23m
Slani, CZECHIA
$34k
None
None


TEN AMERICANS
FOUR FRENCH
THREE BRITISH
TWO CANADIANS
TWO ARGENTINIANS
TWO GERMANS
ONE PORTUGESE
ONE RUSSIAN
ONE DUTCH
ONE CZECH

Of the 10 Americans:

Three from:
NEW JERSEY
Two from:
OHIO
One from:
CALIFORNIA
PENSYLVANNIA
NEVADA
NEW YORK
MINNESOTA

Ten Players have live tournament cashes in excess of $1m
Ben Lamb leads with $7.2m
John Hesp has the lowest total tournament cashes - $2k

Thirteen players have cashed in the Main Event before
Marcel Luske cashes for the 5th time
Six players cashed the Main last year
Ruane (4th) and Saout (25th) have not yet finished higher than they did last year
Brian Piccioli is the only player cashing for the 3rd year in a row
Three players have Final Tabled the Main Event before: Saout (’09), Lamb (’11) and Ruane (’16)
Five players have been in the Final 27 before:
Luske (’03 and ’04), Lamb (’09 and ’11), Saout (’09 and ’16), Pollak (’13) and Ruane (’16)

Three players have won WSOP Bracelets: Pham, Lamb and Gryko (WSOPE).

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07-17-2017 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
What's the biggest meltdown in main event history?

Off the top of my head...

Andy Black - 2005
Scotty Nguyen - 2007
Billy Kopp - 2009

I almost hope for their sake that no one collapses like that tomorrow. The regret has to be brutal.
Phil Hilm 2007
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07-17-2017 , 06:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeDiego
Final 27 Stats -
Well played,
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07-17-2017 , 06:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DogFace
What's the biggest meltdown in main event history?

Off the top of my head...

Andy Black - 2005
Scotty Nguyen - 2007
Billy Kopp - 2009

I almost hope for their sake that no one collapses like that tomorrow. The regret has to be brutal.
Anton Morgenstern went in to day 7 in 2013 1/27 with a stack greater than final table average. Finished 20th.
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07-17-2017 , 06:52 AM
Full list of Main Event meltdowns in the ESPN era -I've only considered the final two or three tables

Honourable mention to John Shipley 2002 - Massive chip leader entering the Final Table, finished 7th

2003 - Amir Vahedi (Final Table blow-up) OR Olof Thorson

http://www.smalltalkdan.com/2013/01/...heart-and.html


2004 - Matt Dean (Final Table blow-up, 2nd to 7th)

2005 - Everyone talks about Andy Black, but from what was televised, he continued to play aggro and got on the wrong side of some spots. The real blow-up is Scott Lazar calling an all-in for a lot of chips with QT. "YOU WANT A GAMBLE, I'LL GIVE YOU A GAMBLE. I CALL........Oh."



2006 - Not outrageous, but William Thorson had TONS of chips on the final two tables and finished 13th when he didn't realise Jamie Gold ran like God.

2007 - This could be the biggest blow-up, considering the spot this man was in. Chip leader going of the WSOP Main. Ninth. Ninth.



Honourable mention to Scotty Nguyen, who got tilted by Hilm. Hilm learnt from the best!

https://www.pokertube.com/video/scot...owup-wsop-2007

2008 - Brandon Cantu blew-up a big stack with an amazing misunderstanding of basic pot odds.



Honourable mention to Scott Montgomery, who tried and failed to run the worst bluff ever for a huge blow-up, but got saved by the river.



2009 - Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Billy Kopp. BTW, Darvin Moon's call here is crazy too -



I have to give a mention to Darvin here. The guy tried his best to blow-up, but the deck wouldn't let him. There's a hand against Begleiter which is literally the worst ever played at the Main Event final table, couldn't find it though. Here's his TIMBERRRRRR moment:



2010: "The other door was open" - Norman Chad's funniest line ever, Pascal Le Francois picking the wrong spot against Cheong.

Can't find the hand video but the aftermath is here in this Norman Chad compilation at 12min



2011: John Hewitt on the pre-final final-table to go out in 10th. He made two or three super super marginal calls when he shouldn't have, tried to dismiss it as standard.

2012: This is the best played hand on here; I like Abrams move, but it's a huge amount of chips getting in the pot to finish 12th when he could have folded to the FT.



2013: Anton Morgenstern from chiplead to out in 10 minutes



Morgenstern ended up overshadowing James Alexander, who finished in 19th, but he's well worth watching on the coverage. There's not a single hand that sums it up well, but he was 2nd out of 22 and finished 19th, and unlike Morgenstern (who is a good player), he just seemed to go all Scott Lazar ("YOU WANT A GAMBLE").

2014: Tom Sarra Jr. He had FIFTY BIG BLINDS here with 15 left. https://lv.pokernews.com/tours/wsop/...hips.21639.htm

2015 and 2016: I have to admit I follow poker a lot less than I used to, nothing jumps out at me.

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07-17-2017 , 07:34 AM
I would absolutely love to watch those clips you just linked to but none of them seem to be working.

P.S. where can I bet on Lamb? The kid cannot be stopped.
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07-17-2017 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I would absolutely love to watch those clips you just linked to but none of them seem to be working.

P.S. where can I bet on Lamb? The kid cannot be stopped.
Pokershares gives you 9.00 on him to win the whole thing.

https://www.pokershares.com/en/poker...10-2441-3040-0,
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07-17-2017 , 07:42 AM
James Alexander's blow up in 2013 was orders of magnitude worse than Morgansterns the same year. I was at the table when it happened and the tv coverage didn't do it justice. For some reason he, out of the blue called a ~15bb utg shove iirc, utg+1 with J9o and lost. Then I think he opened A2 and called it off to a shove. Then he proceeded to start just open shipping like 10-15million which was still an above avg stack at the time. At one ooint he gets A-rag in against 99, and spikes an A on the flop and remarks to his brother on the rail 'about time I win of these races', 9 on the river though. He went from a huge stack to out in about 30 minutes.
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07-17-2017 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
James Alexander's blow up in 2013 was orders of magnitude worse than Morgansterns the same year. I was at the table when it happened and the tv coverage didn't do it justice. For some reason he, out of the blue called a ~15bb utg shove iirc, utg+1 with J9o and lost. Then I think he opened A2 and called it off to a shove. Then he proceeded to start just open shipping like 10-15million which was still an above avg stack at the time. At one ooint he gets A-rag in against 99, and spikes an A on the flop and remarks to his brother on the rail 'about time I win of these races', 9 on the river though. He went from a huge stack to out in about 30 minutes.
Didn't he get himself all ****ed up on Five Hour Energy? I seem to remember people saying he pounded like a dozen of them.
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07-17-2017 , 08:04 AM
Sorry guys, huge YouTube embedding fail from me. I've just left the links in so you can click through to the vids.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeDiego
Full list of Main Event meltdowns in the ESPN era -I've only considered the final two or three tables

Honourable mention to John Shipley 2002 - Massive chip leader entering the Final Table, finished 7th

2003 - Amir Vahedi (Final Table blow-up) OR Olof Thorson

http://www.smalltalkdan.com/2013/01/...heart-and.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J_50wkvC4k

2004 - Matt Dean (Final Table blow-up, 2nd to 7th)

2005 - Everyone talks about Andy Black, but from what was televised, he continued to play aggro and got on the wrong side of some spots. The real blow-up is Scott Lazar calling an all-in for a lot of chips with QT. "YOU WANT A GAMBLE, I'LL GIVE YOU A GAMBLE. I CALL........Oh."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GztptKAYMGc

2006 - Not outrageous, but William Thorson had TONS of chips on the final two tables and finished 13th when he didn't realise Jamie Gold ran like God.

2007 - This could be the biggest blow-up, considering the spot this man was in. Chip leader going of the WSOP Main. Ninth. Ninth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBbLuAT-ucw

Honourable mention to Scotty Nguyen, who got tilted by Hilm. Hilm learnt from the best!

https://www.pokertube.com/video/scot...owup-wsop-2007

2008 - Brandon Cantu blew-up a big stack with an amazing misunderstanding of basic pot odds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bptm7wDHa0E

Honourable mention to Scott Montgomery, who tried and failed to run the worst bluff ever for a huge blow-up, but got saved by the river.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLlPh_E5rgU

2009 - Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Billy Kopp. BTW, Darvin Moon's call here is crazy too -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljfIs_wS5wc

I have to give a mention to Darvin here. The guy tried his best to blow-up, but the deck wouldn't let him. There's a hand against Begleiter which is literally the worst ever played at the Main Event final table, couldn't find it though. Here's his TIMBERRRRRR moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20b2WAm0-6E

2010: "The other door was open" - Norman Chad's funniest line ever, Pascal Le Francois picking the wrong spot against Cheong.

Can't find the hand video but the aftermath is here in this Norman Chad compilation at 12min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9H5M28Oz54

2011: John Hewitt on the pre-final final-table to go out in 10th. He made two or three super super marginal calls when he shouldn't have, tried to dismiss it as standard.

2012: This is the best played hand on here; I like Abrams move, but it's a huge amount of chips getting in the pot to finish 12th when he could have folded to the FT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhlFh4URx_4

2013: Anton Morgenstern from chiplead to out in 10 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfGFyKNCYTc

Morgenstern ended up overshadowing James Alexander, who finished in 19th, but he's well worth watching on the coverage. There's not a single hand that sums it up well, but he was 2nd out of 22 and finished 19th, and unlike Morgenstern (who is a good player), he just seemed to go all Scott Lazar ("YOU WANT A GAMBLE").

2014: Tom Sarra Jr. He had FIFTY BIG BLINDS here with 15 left. https://lv.pokernews.com/tours/wsop/...hips.21639.htm

2015 and 2016: I have to admit I follow poker a lot less than I used to, nothing jumps out at me.
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07-17-2017 , 08:19 AM
Morgenstern's Blow-Up from 2013 was the craziest I've ever seen. It was like watching him lose his ****in mind. The infamous hand against Mark Newhouse says it all. He was an overwhelming chipleader on Day 7 and probably could've just blinded off and still would've made the final 9. Has to be something he deeply regrets.
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