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Will PLO ever become more popular than NLH? Will PLO ever become more popular than NLH?

11-30-2013 , 05:14 PM
Two or three decades ago people would had never thought that NLH would be the prominent game of poker played around the world.However poker has not ever been nearly as big as it has become the last decade.
Just thought this would be an interesting topic. Could PLO ever become the next NLH? I am not arguing whether it will gain popularity because it definitely has already. But could it ever surpass NLH years from now when more and more people play it on a normal basis?
You don't see the game nearly as much as one would expect in any casino- and if it is running it is usually only one or two tables. However you always hear people say they like it more.
I feel like the game has a lot of potential to become the new NLH in upcoming years- however is it because of the variance that the game hasn't actually really "taken off" yet in the casual players' pool?
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11-30-2013 , 05:19 PM
No.
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11-30-2013 , 05:22 PM
No.
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11-30-2013 , 05:23 PM
No
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11-30-2013 , 05:24 PM
Yes, when there is an affordable entry point for the masses.

right now, needing 2-3 $300 bullets to play one session of 1/2 PLO prices out about 85% of the live market.

given that and the reduced profit of the game, why would rooms spread it?
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11-30-2013 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Yes, when there is an affordable entry point for the masses.

right now, needing 2-3 $300 bullets to play one session of 1/2 PLO prices out about 85% of the live market.

given that and the reduced profit of the game, why would rooms spread it?
While an affordable entry point will certainly increase the popularity of PLO, it will not increase it enough to surpass NLHE.

For this reason (and others), the answer to the OP's question is: No.
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11-30-2013 , 05:39 PM
Yes.

"Ever" represents quite a long time...
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11-30-2013 , 05:42 PM
PLO is far too complex for a beginner to learn. Imagine trying to learn when you're allowed to check/bet/call/raise/fold as someone learning the rules, as well as all the intricacies of how to read your hand in PLO and the pot-limit betting. A beginner can understand 98 on a K76 board; a beginner can't wrap their head around JT87 on a J76 board. For this reason 5-card draw (and NLHE) are the standard beginner poker games to learn, and games as complicated as PLO won't take that spot.

If you can't teach a poker game (like PLO) to your family and friends in 10-15 minutes at a Thanksgiving dinner then it will never grow to the size of NLHE.
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11-30-2013 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WAtR
Yes.

"Ever" represents quite a long time...
I'm assuming the OP isn't counting some variant of PLO sweeping the nation in 62525AD as being relevant to the discussion.
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11-30-2013 , 05:45 PM
I just jumped in my time traveling phone booth and spoke to myself from 2004.


no
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11-30-2013 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by weirdchess1
PLO is far too complex for a beginner to learn. Imagine trying to learn when you're allowed to check/bet/call/raise/fold as someone learning the rules, as well as all the intricacies of how to read your hand in PLO and the pot-limit betting. A beginner can understand 98 on a K76 board; a beginner can't wrap their head around JT87 on a J76 board. For this reason 5-card draw (and NLHE) are the standard beginner poker games to learn, and games as complicated as PLO won't take that spot.

If you can't teach a poker game (like PLO) to your family and friends in 10-15 minutes at a Thanksgiving dinner then it will never grow to the size of NLHE.
+1 to all of this
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11-30-2013 , 05:52 PM
The Masses like simplicity and PLO is too complicated for them. So the answer is No.
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11-30-2013 , 05:54 PM
To the Euros in here, is PLO not more popular than NLHE over there? I always thought it was, could easily be mistaken about that, though.
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11-30-2013 , 06:03 PM
Not in the UK, PLO is still a minority game that shows no sign of growth. NLHE remains the undiputed king of poker variants, and by a very long way.

OP; no.
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11-30-2013 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
While an affordable entry point will certainly increase the popularity of PLO, it will not increase it enough to surpass NLHE.

For this reason (and others), the answer to the OP's question is: No.

true, changing my answer to No.

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Originally Posted by weirdchess1
PLO is far too complex for a beginner to learn.
yes to that

But, if game did grow it would be much higher ratio of people who like to gamble. Since its a newer game it would be much higher ratio of newer players who like to gamble. that's a good combo

The game can grow for sure. If a majority of major rooms committed to a .50 / $1 PLO, the game would grow quickly.

How quickly and how big is anyone's guess.
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11-30-2013 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
To the Euros in here, is PLO not more popular than NLHE over there? I always thought it was, could easily be mistaken about that, though.
I doubt you're going to get anything more than anecdotal accounts, but maybe someone will have some data.
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11-30-2013 , 06:16 PM
Do people really believe the poker world in 2060 or beyond will be even remotely similar to how it is now? There is decent chance that both games will be as dead (or more likely, deader) as 5 card draw and 7 card stud are today. I shall be sure to play a few thousand hands of PLO in 2060 just to make sure that I am correct today in saying that PLO will be more popular than NLHE at some stage. Put it in your diaries, you are all welcome to play...
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11-30-2013 , 06:21 PM
OFC has a higher chance than PLO I think
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11-30-2013 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WAtR
Do people really believe the poker world in 2060 or beyond will be even remotely similar to how it is now? There is decent chance that both games will be as dead (or more likely, deader) as 5 card draw and 7 card stud are today. I shall be sure to play a couple of hundred hands of PLO in 2060 simply to demonstrate that I am correct now in saying that PLO will be more popular than NLHE at some stage. Put it in your diaries...
Too bad in 2060 I'll have my Mila Kunis sex bot putting in tens of thousands of hands of NLHE every day when she's not, err, busy. OP never specified it had to be popular with humans, bitches.
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11-30-2013 , 06:23 PM
i hear a lot that plo is more gambling -> more fun ->more popular

maybe thats true for players with the same level of plo skills

but there is a lot more space for "plays" by better players, so soon or later all the fun is gone for the recreational or new to game plr

so NO
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11-30-2013 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
OFC has a higher chance than PLO I think
Will NEVER happen live. As far as online, Stars is out ahead of this saying they have no plans to offer OFC.

source: Lee Davy article

http://calvinayre.com/2013/11/15/pok...g-to-customer/

Last edited by PTLou; 11-30-2013 at 06:41 PM.
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11-30-2013 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
Too bad in 2060 I'll have my Mila Kunis sex bot putting in tens of thousands of hands of NLHE every day when she's not, err, busy. OP never specified it had to be popular with humans, bitches.
Ha ha! +1
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11-30-2013 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bigpotpoker
No.
^
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11-30-2013 , 07:02 PM
BRB travelling to 2030.



nah OP, it wont be.
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11-30-2013 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
Mila Kunis sex bot
You have my attention...
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