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Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion? Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

12-03-2010 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by super_dave31
i think its probably to do with the fact that isnt something like 85% of finlands yeart spent being dark?
eeeehhhhh... No. Why would people think this. Around where most people live during spring and autumn sun is up for about 10-12h, during summer around 20h, and during winter from 6 to 10 hours. Winter's certainly longer but not by _that_ much.

I liked the comment about living in nordic countries is like freerolling. Might have something to do with it.
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12-03-2010 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by KlaSuu
I think one of the possibilities is also just that the finnish winter is very cold and long compared to other countries, so we're more likely to stay indoors longer during that time = more time on PC = more likely to play a game like poker.
i was also thinking highly educated (i think) and very high internet usage. so they get good at the game. good at game = fearless?

one thing i wonder about is that a bunch of nice estonian and finnish girls i know have huge problems with low blood pressure. thinking they don't feel as much stress (see bjorn borg?)

just a few thoughts
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12-03-2010 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LasseKL
- Theres about three government casinos where its legal to play, so theres a bunch of underground clubs there aswell. In Norway there is no place to play legally.
I cant belive not one person commented on my previous point :P.

Being from Norway, and having at one point run an underground game myself, I would say that a huge factor is just that to play on a regular basis you have to seek out a criminal environment - which means casual players are far fewer, and people get better by playing vs good opponents. Plus everybodys pretty open about strategy and gives advice and stuff, but I would imagine this is common most places in the world.

Temperature might play a part also off course. ATM its -20 celcius where I live, no idea what that is in fahrenheit but its freakin cold I can tell u that much..
i wasn't speaking about poker specifically. actually it was quite the opposite. other styles of gambling are legeal, hence people may start off taking the same approach to poker and go from there. not sure what that has to do with underground at all. my points may not be valid, but certainly not due to what you stated, since it is totally unrelated. atleast that is what i understodd in my current frame of mind, which happens to be drunk. gn
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12-03-2010 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmenH
In a Bluff magazine article Illari Sahamies(Finnish) is quoted as saying “People are realistic in Finland, They(Fins) don’t believe so much in God or luck or magic… but the reason why there are so many good poker players among a population of only 5 million? I don’t know...I guess it’s a kind of miracle.”

It got me to thinking about religion in that part of the world and after looking up religious statistics in Sweden on Wikipedia I found this ,"Despite a high formal membership rate in the Church of Sweden, several studies have found Sweden to be one of the least religious countries in the world, with one of the highest levels of atheism. According to different studies, between 46% and 85% of Swedes do not believe in God."

Does lack of Religion in your culture and up bringing allow you to become more fearless at the tables? Does being brought up with a religious background disable and restrict you from being a world class poker player? Is there an inverse correlation between being devoted to your religious beliefs and success in poker?
Much more likely cultural/genetic.

You had to be a pretty big risk taker to make it as a Viking. Probably comes from that.
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12-04-2010 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blizzuff
Finnish people are culturally emotionless machines on a level that the rest of the world isn't even close to. Great for poker.
Have you ever seen Ziigmund on tilt?? Finns are extremely emotional people and wear their emotions on their sleeve. They can be quiet and reserved when around people they don't know, but they can be extremely crazy too.. especially when drunk.

I wouldn't say Finns are on another level either... just pretty smart people who know aggressive poker is winning poker. They bluff a lot and are always very suspicious of other people bluffing.
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12-04-2010 , 12:41 AM
old people are nits. kids are spewboxes. poker is relatively new there and the average player age is low.
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12-04-2010 , 06:13 AM
climate
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12-06-2010 , 06:25 AM
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12-09-2010 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AK17
ok you just spit random junk and ramble with no points involved. please explain again the painfully obvious connection between how being religious directly correlates to poker skill.
Pretty sure I did that in my first post, so I'm not sure what more you want me to say. The connection is so obvious that I'm not sure what you're really having trouble with?

First premise: Skilful poker players are ones that excel in critical analysis; infact many poker hands are just like a logical argument. When you make that river bluff, your argument is that you have the best hand. Your opponents task is to break down your argument, examine the premises (your actions on previous streets), and examine your conclusion (whether your line makes sense) - and then act accordingly.

Second premise: There is an inverse correlation between being Religious and being excellent at critical analysis. Please remember that I'm not necessarily saying "all religious people are stupid"; I am arguing a correlation, not causation. There is undoubtedly at least a correlation between the two, because if people employ good critical analysis, then they won't be able to arrive at a conclusion that God exists. It's just not possible. Belief in God is a position of faith, not a position you arrive at by logical deduction.

Conclusion: There is an inverse relationship between being religious, and being good at poker (remembering again that it doesn't need to be a 1:1 inverse relationship and coming back to me with anecdotal evidence of some successful religious players is not going to be sufficient). :P

Follow now?
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12-09-2010 , 07:11 PM
well, uh I think the scandis have a larger ratio of young players in comparison to their foreign counterparts.

Young people = doesn't give a sh**.

Don't take my word for it though.
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12-10-2010 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
LOL
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12-10-2010 , 06:24 AM
World class education
World class infrastructure
World class social security
Zero tax rate on gambling winnings
Huge tax rate on job income
Plenty of time to stay indoors because of the weather
=
WIN
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12-10-2010 , 06:26 AM
Also this:

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/15/i...countries.html

Or could they be highly motivated in order to get their hands on these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wql2L...eature=related

Last edited by kalervo; 12-10-2010 at 06:38 AM.
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12-10-2010 , 06:48 AM
vikings killed everyone who didn´t look good or weren´t reaaally smart

perfect genes

/thread
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12-10-2010 , 07:33 AM
Norway > Sweden > Finland

In all areas (including women ((Swedes come to Norway to work = Norway has tons of Swedish girls as well as Norwegian)).

/thread
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12-10-2010 , 07:55 AM
back in the day... swedes, finns and norweigians went fishing

swedes got an awesome score, 10kg of catfish
finns did even better, 20kg of salmon
norweigians found 20billion dollars worth of oil

thus; swedes and finns are mad as ****, while Norwegians just don't give a ****

/thread

<3 Partysvensker: http://www.norways.eu/video-jaa9-onklp-partysvenske
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12-10-2010 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kjemmy
Norway > Sweden > Finland
This only applies to wealth and the number of muslim immigrants.
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12-10-2010 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kalervo
World class education
World class infrastructure
World class social security
Zero tax rate on gambling winnings
Huge tax rate on job income
Plenty of time to stay indoors because of the weather
=
??????
profit
FYP
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12-17-2010 , 01:47 PM
Because we drink a lot. You can test by coming in Helsinki-Vantaa Airport friday/saturday. Asked from one guy who have lived in 6 countrys and in other countrys there people buy 2-6 beers, in Finland we buy 24 beers. Dunno whys that but there 12 years old guys can ask u to buy 12 beers from shop. That guy who spent here one year came to sauna one time with 5 finnish men. He gone sleep after 7 finnish beer. In next morning we calculated 110 beers was drank.

So after all, i think the answer is that.
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12-17-2010 , 03:18 PM
Or is it because of social security, its said here i know.

Or is it because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhOw2qm8UgM

????
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12-17-2010 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by britewire
And why are Dutch players the worst?
They're not.. the Greeks are.
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01-19-2011 , 07:33 PM
im a norwegian and here is what i feel about this question

Its not true that its not beneficial to go to college or that hard to get rich in norway. if you study something hard/boring, (meaning maths, chemistry, etc is included) its easy to get a high paying job. Or you could just work at Burger King and earn six figures. Yeah its true. Its however extremely expensive to live here so that makes poker far less attractive than playing it for a living in another country, so this should lead towards not wanting to pursue a career as a pro poker player. And no, no country has so good wealthfare that the citizens doesnt care to lose money, we care as much or more than many cultures i believe.

But yeah we got computers at an early age, a stable economic situation means kids could game non stop in high school and college, not care to take a part time job if they didnt wanted to take one, etc. This helps, as gaming experience to me seems to directly correlate to poker talent.

In norway there is a phenomenon called the Glassur generation. this is the generation that was born in the late 80s and after. this generation is said to had silk pillows put under their arms from a low age, and all the kids growing up felt very safe and knew that nothing could go wrong and that everything was taken care of. because of this the kids was very high demanding, would refusee to take a boring job in highschool and after, put in study hours in school in any subject they didnt like. Shameless kids. basicly expected vip-treatment from life. i realise this doesnt sound well and might make norwegians seem less sympathic, but its a well-spoken of phenomenon. i guess that this attitude is likely to make an individual ambitious, aggro, wanting to play higher stakes, and not caring to play safe at small stakes in poker. people want to be great and get a lot of respect and validation besides money out of anything they go into, be it a job, studies, sport, or poker.
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01-19-2011 , 07:38 PM
because they have viking blood -_-
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01-19-2011 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by smokerings
It can be argued that well developed social safety nets are linked to atheism.
yeah that is probably why christian-democratic parties are the builders behind pretty much all the western social security models
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01-19-2011 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by isapistola



**** YEAH!!! AMERICA IS NUMBER ONE!!!
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